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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:17 PM
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I am beginning to believe Jesse Jackson will do anything to keep
himself in the news.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:18 PM
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1. guess being Michael Jackson's spirtual advisor wasn't enough
the man is a media whore

hate to admit that the cons were right about him

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:21 PM
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6. Name me a successful political leader who ISN'T a media whore. n/t
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:39 PM
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21. maybe he saw what bushinc was doing...
and maybe he's trying to dampen their powder for when shiavo dies. The idea is bushinc saw a case that they could use to get bad news off the tv....also, they know the law is on the husband's side, so there's no risk to them by supporting the family (thus creating illusion that the libs/dems are the bad guys ie killing someone) maybe jackson saw it as it was: terri's dead, has been dead for years, and feeding her is like feeding a houseplant; jackson maybe thinks if he jumps on the bandwagon, then the busheviks will have harder time demonising the dems after it's all over (when jackson lines upwith the democrats)(?)
i mean Jackson saw Martin King murdered right in front of him, he knows full well how depraved the busheviks are
we should use all our vitriol on the repukes..all off it (well lieberman too)
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:19 PM
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2. Notice he shows up and insists the feeding tube be reinserted AFTER
her doctors say that she's past the point of no return?
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Ms Chicklet Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:19 PM
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3. What's he going to do, rhyme her back to health?
"Keep my career alive!"
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:20 PM
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4. I'm beginning to think the same thing about Dean, Clark, Nader, H. Clinton
and EVERY OTHER Democratic politician. Why are people criticizing Jackson for what is perfectly normal and acceptable behavior for other leaders on the left? So what if he gets on TV? Why the double standard?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:51 PM
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18. Dean's party chair
Do you honestly want a party chair who shies from the limelight?

Hillary's an elected official, and as such she has the right to gain and use media attention to further her policies.

Clark's a smart man, and I think it's good that we've got a high profile career military man in the media.

Nader's not a democrat.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:15 PM
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19. So, what's your point?
You still haven't explained why its ok for them to be in the media and not Jackson. Talking about the background of those four people is a distraction from the issue. My post said EVERY OTHER Democratic leader and activist tries to get in the media as much as possible. Yet, Jackson is the only one getting criticized for it. Can you justify that double standard?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:40 PM
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20. The OP said that he'll
"do anything to keep himself in the news."

You said you think that about many democrats.

I was trying to give some rationalization for these politicians being in the media.

And about Jesse Jackson, while I don't care for him personally and I think he is using the Schiavo issue as a cheap political ploy, which not many democrats have done, he is occasionally a very effective speaker, and he's one of the most prominent African-American voices in the public discourse today. So if he wants media attention, and the media want to give him attention, it's all good.
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daydreamer Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:20 PM
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5. At least he is consistent
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 06:21 PM by daydreamer
with his believes. He is anti-war too. You can't say that he is a hypocrite (except the sexual morality part).
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:41 PM
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14. That's not consistency ... a feeding tube is an intervention, many
Christians, such as myself, think it's cruel to intervene to extend a brain dead woman's death.

The only thing consistent about Jesse Jackson is the demonstration of his overblown ego.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:23 PM
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7. I'm not a Christian and my beliefs aren't like Jackson's but
I can accept that because of his moral beliefs could feel differently than me. I have no reason to believe he is not sincere in his belief.

I disagree with him on this issue; I don't need to hate him for that. Disagreement doesn't require disrespect.

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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:29 PM
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9. I agree with you on all points, no disrespect however, showing up
now, why now; the only issues he seems to get involved with are those where there
is heavy media coverage.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:39 PM
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13. That isn't true at all.
The media just likes to ignore most of the issues Jackson gets involved in. Since when does the media cover issue related to urban poverty and racial discrimination in an honest way? You're allowing the media to manipulate your views of Jackson if you think what you see on TV is all he does.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:05 PM
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29. Hogwash!
The most recent issue he got involved in and there was virtually NO media coverage was the aftermath of the last election. He got involved in that and when there was NO main stream media coverage. None. There are many other examples I could site... But this is the most recent one and by far the best.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:45 PM
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15. Dunno, maybe because the Republicans have turned their backs
on the Schindler family.

They hoped for help from the Republicans. The Republicans did a one step forward and two steps back once it was seen as politically incorrect.

Maybe now they are willing to turn to a celebrity (who happens to be a democrat)whose beliefs agree with them.

I am not a confidant or intimate of Jesse Jackson, I can't do more than guess what his motives are. I respect him too much as a democrat and as a person with a history of compassion to immediately disparage him.

I will disagree with him, but still respect him.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:29 PM
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8. now you guy's hate jesse. man oh man.
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starwolf Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:35 PM
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11. I have always thought poorly of him
A media whore like no other
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:48 PM
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23. Lol. And DUers are calling what's going on in Fla a circus
The real circus is watching musical Hero-of-the-week at DU because too many of us refuse to look at the WHOLE politician before adoring or burning.

:shaking head too:

Time to hate the Congressional Black Caucus too... Half of it is right behind Jackson as is his son, Jesse Jackson Jr.

Whoops, and Harold Ford Jr too.

What will the Democratic Party do after it has alienated and insulted every single faction it can think of?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:14 AM
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26. I never liked Harold Ford
and no, I don't like what the CBC is doing on certain issues including gay marriage

Most of the CBC voted for the FMA last time around

and yes, I've always thought that Jesse Jackson is a media whore

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oncall Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:58 PM
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24. republicans eat their young
I watch with amusement as i see wing nuts turn on jeb and the congress that they voted into power
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:30 PM
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10. Why do I have this feeling that the Schindlers and Randall Terry
were not really glad to see him? Strange bedfellows indeed.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:39 PM
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12. Looks that way
Don't hate him. Happen to like him but being part of this fiasco is not something I like seeing.

I think it is a setup anyway. The Shindlers probably want to distance themselves from all the crazies and know that public opinion is against them. Pretty shrewd political move.

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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:48 PM
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16. If they want to distance themselves from the crazies, I think the
sickest thing yet is their sellng a video of their daughter in this state to anyone who is willing to donate $100.00 to the right-wing causes such as this one along with anti-abortion.

What parent would do that to their daughter. If these people were willing to donate would'nt they do it without a video.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:49 PM
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17. I lost respect for him
when the daughter thing came out and he announced he was taking a break from politics.

That lasted a whole two weeks.

:eyes:
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:42 PM
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22. Duh
You're just figuring this out now?

Where you been the past 30 years or so?
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:59 PM
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25. Bloody shirt controversy
"Jackson has stirred both admiration and criticism. His behavior in the hours immediately following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr., was a subject of controversy: Jackson claimed that he had held the dying leader, heard his last words, and had his shirt stained by King's blood. Other SCLC officers present at the murder have disputed those claims..."

http://www.gale.com/free_resources/bhm/bio/jackson_j.htm


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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:32 AM
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27. Hope Alive?
after hearing a few minutes with his "Easter interview with Michael Jackson" I lost all respect.
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Sick_of_Rethuggery Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:33 AM
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28. I know how the Rethugs keep "winning"...
Dems just keep eating their own -- 'one "mistake", and you are out' seems to be the credo around here and among the progressive public in general.

We could discuss if there is some merit to Jackson's position on this isolated incident, we could talk about ways of getting around the idiotic, suicidal media/right-wing coalition of the pseudo-righteous -- but no, Jackson takes one stand unpopular here and immediately his entire life (spent almost exclusively on fighting for the common good, I might add) is negated and he is a media whore...

What will it take to drill some sense of perspective into the "left"?
Not even an anything-for-us cabal firmly in control of every known institutional lever?
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