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Thu Jan-22-04 09:49 PM
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Poll question: Who lost the debate? |
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Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 09:51 PM by Bleachers7
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:50 PM
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1. Do you know you have Kucinch twice? |
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:51 PM
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2. America lost, because it was a Fox Scam.... |
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Thu Jan-22-04 10:07 PM
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:52 PM
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3. The guy who got booed and admitted he was unpopular - Lieberman. |
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However, Sharpton's zinger against Dean was the biggest hurt laid down by one candidate on another.
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:52 PM
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6. Sharpton looked like an ass. |
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:56 PM
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10. It was a smart debate tactic. It looked like Dean was going to mention |
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it every chance he got to mitigate the damage. Sharpton attached new meaning to it -- that dean went crazy because he had just spent millions for 18% of the vote.
It forced dean to stop mentioning it, perhaps.
And, it started off slyly, got Dean laughing and, then he laid in with the meat of the joke, with Dean laughing, so that it looked like Dean was laughing at himself for spending millions for 18% of vote.
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:54 PM
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or came close to it. Any non-activist, not-very-involved center/left center/right person will probably have a very high opinion of Lieberman after this debate. He connected well with the audience, got lots of applause for his pro-war slogans, and did great on rhetorically attacking Bush. Don't underestimate Lieberman, I'm not voting for him obviously, but I bet he does better in NH than anyone on DU thinks.
My parents could easily vote for Lieberman.
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:52 PM
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5. I voted no one because it was a crock |
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of shit debate. I guess Dean did okay because he proved he wasn't a nut-case, but it sucked.
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:53 PM
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that was a bad answer on the Moore question
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:53 PM
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8. This is how my wife and I rank their performances in this debate |
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1) Edwards 2) Kerry 3) Sharpton 4) Dean 5) Lieberman 6) Kucinich 7) Clark
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:56 PM
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11. all the candidates seemed very fatigue |
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a few gaffes. Maybe edwards with the gay marriage and clark with the moore thing, kerry will STILL get heat with the iraq war thing. nobody is going to be happy with lieberman.
eh, it was kinda lame. everybody playing it safe
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:56 PM
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they didn't shine as much as they needed to.
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:57 PM
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Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 09:57 PM by bowens43
they got their asses kicked.
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Thu Jan-22-04 09:58 PM
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14. Sharpton lost...he had a couple of really great answers |
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Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 09:59 PM by BullGooseLoony
But, damn, that guy EMBARASSED himself on a couple of the questions. He sounded like a total amateur.
On edit: And who can say that Dean LOST that debate? Are you frickin' KIDDING me?? Dean WON.
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Thu Jan-22-04 10:03 PM
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he "calmed down" (as it were) since Monday night, and came across as very credible
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Thu Jan-22-04 10:05 PM
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17. Dean kicked ass and Sharpton looked like a moron. |
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Stick to jokes, Rev. Al.
Later.
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Thu Jan-22-04 10:04 PM
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because he should have done better.
Edwards botched the DOMA question badly, Sharpton doesn't know what the Fed does, Dean was tepid and Kerry was vague.
Kucinich and Lieberman did well, but it won't help them.
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Thu Jan-22-04 10:05 PM
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Thu Jan-22-04 10:12 PM
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20. I said Dean and I'll say why... |
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he did fine. others did worse - but Dean NEEDED to do things in this debate he didnt do... more so than any other candidate.
He did nothing tonight to make him more electable. He may have slowed the slide a little - and I doubt any of his current supporters will walk away as a result of his performance - but he didnt do anything to really turn it around.
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Thu Jan-22-04 10:16 PM
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Because nobody likes him. :)
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Thu Jan-22-04 11:32 PM
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23. Edwards fumbled the question on DOMA and radical Islam |
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Lieberman looked good, better than Bush!
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Thu Jan-22-04 11:34 PM
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24. Daily Kos: Edwards: A, Clark: B, Kerry: B, Dean: B |
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Clark (B) -- He's reading his resume too much, and gets visibly jittery on most domestic issues. And although he did a decent job deflecting the issues related to his Democratic cred, he cannot wiggle out of his multitudinous positions on the war. Dean (B) -- Self-effacing about the Primal Scream, and more consistent on making his points about having shown courage to take tough stands. But he's de-fanged. It's hard to look at him and not think about the Val Air Ballroom, um, "concession" speech. And what a shame: Nobody riffs better about the need for Democrats to redefine, and recapture from the GOP, the very definitions and terms of our most important public debates.
Edwards (A) -- Watch out for Edwards. Repeat: Watch out for Edwards. He was sandbagged about the Islam question, and yet still managed to be quite self-effacing and nimble on his feet. He has the right answers on the 2nd Amendment, and his talk about poverty is nothing short of courageous because there's no pandering to people who basically do not vote. He could move up into second in NH just as he did in IA.
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Kerry (B) -- Playing safe is smart, and all Kerry needs right now are "B"'s to stay at the head of the class. It's far easier (and much smarter) to run out the clock in the mere seven days between Iowa and New Hampshire, than to do so for the seven or so weeks of Dean's front-runnership leading into Iowa.
Lieberman (C) --
Kucinich (D)
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Thu Jan-22-04 11:37 PM
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26. heh! Well that rules out Daily Kos as objective |
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Thu Jan-22-04 11:36 PM
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because it wasn't much of a debate on issues, it was a Fox slap of the candidates.
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Fri Jan-23-04 12:01 AM
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27. none of the candidates really lost . . . |
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but the panel of questioners sucked . . . they spent half the night playing "Gotcha," or at least trying to . . . all of the candidates had some good moments and some not so good moments . . . but in a format like this, with these questioners, it's damned hard to come to any conclusions about winners and losers . . . the one thing that struck me more than anything was how bad Kerry and Kucinich looked under the lights . . . if Kerry is indeed the nominee, he better hire a top-notch tv makeup person to do something about his death mask of a face . . . and I say this with love and support . . .
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