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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:18 PM Original message |
Poll question: Do you support the deportation of all ILLEGAL aliens? |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Very simple |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Illegal aliens by definition means those who are here illegally. |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. I'll explain then |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. umm |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. No it isn't |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I'll spell it out for you then |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 11:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. That's a simple statement of fact. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
69. Quite a few in fact |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. I only support the deportation of those with criminal records; what column |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Maybe? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
70. It is already the case |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't support the deportation of current illegal immigrants. |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. How about offering a role in the guest-worker program instead? n/t |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 02:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
66. Guest worker... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
71. I agree with you. |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:12 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Yes, I agree with that. (n/t) |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. And a functional guest-worker program, too. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. I've never really worried too much about it either way |
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steelyboo (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. No offense, but maybe you should care because of the American janitor and |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Show me an American who wants to work for $15 per day |
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steelyboo (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. But you need to follow the logic out. If Jr Dickhead gets his way, he will |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. The only way to stop that is by going after employers |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. So it's okay |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. No, it's not okay |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. You may be right on that. |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 01:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
55. But they aren't just "picking strawberries" |
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sharonking21 (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 01:18 AM Response to Reply #55 |
117. Think about the situation in Austin Texas |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
72. Then strike where you need to strike |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
8. Giving illegals amnesty is a slap in the face to those who obeyed the law |
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jen4clark (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I'm with you on this one n/t |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. I agree; breaking the law should NOT BE REWARDED |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Who will pick the crops? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Do you propose a guest worker program? |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 07:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
86. Machines would put people out of work |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. The history channel ran a program on agricultural harvesters |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Yes lets fire all the workers and rely completely and totally on machines |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Straw man argument; that's totally uncalled for |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:11 AM Response to Reply #44 |
73. So if... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 05:15 AM Response to Reply #73 |
82. Not necessarily, you're jumping to conclusions with what I say |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 07:34 AM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Why shouldn't I favor jobs going to illegal immigrants? |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 11:34 AM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Why shouldn't you favor jobs going to illegal immigrants? |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 07:01 AM Response to Reply #96 |
121. None of those people are going to go pick tomatoes for 8 hours |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. For one thing, it is unfair to the millions who immigrated LEGALLY |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 07:04 AM Response to Reply #97 |
122. Your parents are probably not saints |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #122 |
131. There's a process to getting in the country |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. I see |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. This is why we have to take a multi-tiered approach |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 07:31 AM Response to Reply #33 |
87. Great, let's put more people out of work |
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borg5575 (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. If it pays enough they will. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 07:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
89. Deleted message |
Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 12:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Your attacks are not welcome. |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 07:05 AM Response to Reply #98 |
123. I was only repeating his own words about his butt |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 11:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. My hubbie picked crops as a young man |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 12:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
46. What ever happened to the Republican philosophy |
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sharonking21 (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
92. I favor a two-week |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Come down on those corporations |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
74. I agree totally with you. |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. I'm worried: Clear Channel has been pushing this hard recently |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Good. And the dems should screamlouder than the rethugs about it. |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. I support fining employers for every illegal worker, for every day |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. No, some have lives here |
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sharonking21 (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
48. I agree, mostly |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:23 AM Response to Reply #48 |
78. Excellent post. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
18. How about we deport the employers that use them? |
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borg5575 (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. No, send them to jail. |
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solinvictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
24. Yep... |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
26. Certainly. |
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Stand and Fight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. Absolutely. |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
32. Anyplace in Idaho |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
108. You just described the crux of the problem |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 07:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
125. Would you pay twice as much for your potatoes? |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
40. sorry, I just don't believe there are illegal humans.... |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
41. I support the deportation of some illegal aliens... |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-05 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
42. I'm not sure if corporate America will allow this to be a huge issue. |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
47. No way |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
49. They're illegal, aren't they? To allow them to stay would also be illegal. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 12:49 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. The people's representatives write the laws. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #51 |
130. You are advicating making illegal immigrants legal? I don't think that's |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
50. My ancestors were immigrants and I know how I would want them treated. |
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sharonking21 (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 12:54 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. My, my . . |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 01:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. uh oh |
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sharonking21 (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #54 |
91. Perhaps we need the men |
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jfenway (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 01:49 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. I can't believe I am agreeing with RA either.... |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:15 AM Response to Reply #50 |
76. Your ancestors... |
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jfenway (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:33 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Ah, the glass is full argument... |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:46 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Not only the "glass is full"... |
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jfenway (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 05:27 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. I was genuinely curious about Clark's position on the matter.. |
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sharonking21 (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #80 |
93. The strange thing |
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jfenway (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. I don't know if you are responding to me.. |
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sharonking21 (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 11:37 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. No and after I posted |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
115. Here is what General Clark Says |
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sharonking21 (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 01:42 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Thanks for the post and the URL (N/T) |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 08:47 AM Response to Reply #115 |
129. Thanks. A thoughtful and intelligent discussion of the issue from Clark. |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 07:40 AM Response to Reply #76 |
90. My ancestors came here legally too |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #76 |
99. Today's immigrants want the same things my ancestors wanted. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Rationalization. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 09:29 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Projection. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 11:21 PM Response to Reply #103 |
112. I'm saying Americans are not the saviours of the world. |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #112 |
134. What country did your ancestors come from? |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 12:36 AM Response to Reply #134 |
136. England, Germany and Sweden |
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MollyStark (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 07:14 AM Response to Reply #100 |
126. Legal Smeagol |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 11:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
114. That is historically inaccurate. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
53. Other countries won't let US stay. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 01:53 AM Response to Reply #53 |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 02:09 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Bye bye now. |
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jfenway (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 02:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. The post concerned.. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 02:19 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Sorry, wrong again. |
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jfenway (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 02:27 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. If I demonstrate that US citizens that are illegals.. |
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jfenway (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 02:20 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. You've edited your post like 3 times now in the past 30 seconds.. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 02:22 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Get a life. |
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jfenway (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 02:28 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. You first... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
56. This is an extremely difficult issue |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
67. Even with a "Guest Worker" program, there would still be illegals |
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nomatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 03:53 AM Response to Original message |
68. Whatever argument you want to make about our |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:19 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. They dont cost to everybody |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 04:48 AM Response to Original message |
81. Am speechless |
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nomatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 05:43 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Am speechless? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 06:00 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. You're right. There is something seriously wrong. n/t |
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LoganW (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #84 |
101. Actually the Klan did that |
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Mr.Green93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
94. Why are you using the term 'ILLEGAL aliens'? |
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jfenway (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 09:48 PM Response to Reply #94 |
106. I believe that is the proper term.. |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 12:46 AM Response to Reply #94 |
116. They are here illegaly. Therefore, they are ILLEGALS. n/t |
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BlueManDude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
95. unless there is a legitimate persecution issue - send them home. |
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jfenway (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. Why not? |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
102. Exporting America: Corporate Greed ... read 'globalization' is behind |
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gardenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
104. HELL NO!!! |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
109. Nope !!! - Unless Ya Wanna See Tomatoes At $20.00 A Pound !!! |
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MominTN (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
110. Send them home! |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 06:08 AM Response to Reply #110 |
120. Sorry, they do pay taxes. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 08:24 AM Response to Reply #120 |
128. Thank you for that answer |
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Blue Moon (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-05 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
111. When someone acts illegally |
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119. Voted no because deportation doesn't work. |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-01-05 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
124. I have several Immigrant Friends |
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127. This entire subject... |
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132. Yes, and I also support our economy failing. |
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137. For and against? |
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138. Ship 'em back to where |
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