We have a four star general who basically called AWOL a DESERTER

[MIMStigator]

Any of you democrats got a problem with that?

[xultar]

1. Hell NAW If it quacks, has feathers and says I'm a duck. It's a Duck! n/t

[truebrit71]

2. Nope. Not a one.

And judging by the level of venom injected into the critique of the General's performance, the whores in the media that have been busy propping up the un-elected fraud know they've got a problem...

[lovedems]

3. I'd really like the chimp to prove it wasn't true, but he can't

and now in a time of war, a war that they brought on by themselves, based on lies, where the administration wants to rule with fear people now have to ponder the AWOL thingy.

[LTR]

4. Hell, the nuts over at Freakpublic thinks Bush is a deserter

They must. Nobody's denying it. At least, they're not defending Bush over it. Where's the proof, freaks?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1063353/posts

[kerry-is-my-prez]

20. The freepers are even saying that this whole thing was "orchestrated"

BUT by Jennings to get the the AWOL story to be the big story on the news....

[MercutioATC]

5. He did? When?

I heard him say that he'd never even looked into it. That's a far cry from calling Bush a deserter.

[Khephra]

8. Yeah, I'd like a quote on this

It seems that he said tonight, "I haven't looked into it."

[FrenchieCat]

17. it's not Clark's job

to look into anything...it's chimpy job to release the complete records.

Clark has been busy campaigning.......for the Democratic nomination.

Should he also be investigating 9/11?????

[last1standing]

27. They're mentioning the fact that Clark never said it.

So it comes down to someone who said he did to provide a link since you can't prove a negative.

On the other hand Dean DID mention that some people believe that bush* knew about 9/11 before it happened (while saying he did not) anyone have a problem with that?

[ajacobson]

21. MM's website is on it

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php

The following is a rush transcript of the exchange between Peter Jennings (PJ) and Wesley Clark (WC) from this evening's debate in New Hampshire

PJ: General Clark, a lot of people say they don't know you well, so this is really a simple question about knowing a man by his friends. The other day you had a rally here and one of the men who stood up to endorse you was the controversial filmmaker Michael Moore. You said you were delighted with him. At one point Mr. Moore, said in front of you that President Bush, he was saying he'd like to see a debate between you the General and President Bush who he called a deserter. Now that's a reckless charge not supported by the facts so I was curious to know why you didn't contradict him and whether or not you think it would have been a better example of ethical behavior to have done so.

WC: Well I think Michael Moore has the right to say whatever he feels about this. I don't know whether this is supported by the facts or not. I've never looked at it. I've seen this charge bandied about a lot but to me it wasn't material, this election is going to be about the future, Peter, and what we have to do is pull this country together, and I'm delighted to have the support of a man like Michael Moore, of a great American leader like Senator George McGovern, and of people from Texas like Charlie Stenholm and Former Secretary of the Navy, John Dalton. We've got support from across the breadth of the Democratic Party, because I believe this party is united in wanting to change the leadership in Washington. We're going to run an election campaign that's about the future. We're going to hold the president accountable for what he did in office and failed to do, and we're going to compare who's got the best vision for America.

PJ: Let me ask you something you mentioned then because since this question and answer in which you and Mr. Moore was involved, you've had a chance to look at the facts. Do you still feel comfortable with the fact that someone should be standing up in your president, in your presence and calling the president of the United States a deserter?

WC: To be honest with you, I did not look at the facts Peter. That's Michael Moore's opinion; he's entitled to say that, I've seen, he's not the only person who's said that. I've not followed up on those facts, and frankly it's not relevant to me and why I'm in this campaign.

[Dagaz]

6. Does it matter?

I'm just thinking that this issue was tried 4 years ago and it never stuck so why would it now? Whether it's true or not Bush now has a record to run on. Forget the AWOL/DUI crap and keep on the joblessness would be my plan.

[spotbird]

22. It was not vetted in 2000, in fact the dance that dodged the issue then

was to say it was vetted in Texas. Well, it's just not going to fly this time, Chimp has got to keep the media in line on it, because he has never explained what happened.

[HuckleB]

7. No problem here. "It is as it was!"

Sorry, just had to get that in somewhere. And it fits here!

[MIMStigator]

10. BAAHH

:hi:

[gulliver]

9. Loved it. Hope they "hammer" Clark on it many, many times.

I would love to see this in the news for a while.

[fob]

11. I do, but it's not a MAJOR one, get it, MAJOR, he's a General, nevermind

The minor problem is this:

His answer should have been;

Mr Jennings if YOU have any information as to where bush* was during 1972, please pass it on to Mr Moore and while you're at it, there's a reward for that info from the Alabama Guard Unit that bush* was SUPPOSED to be at, you may want to claim that to!

[MIMStigator]

13. Good answer. They will now give Clark plenty of chances to say that.

:hi:

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

16. yes! Clark campaign, hire FoeOfBush immediately!

"Mr Jennings if YOU have any information as to where bush* was during 1972, please pass it on to Mr Moore and while you're at it, there's a reward for that info from the Alabama Guard Unit that bush* was SUPPOSED to be at, you may want to claim that to!"

Quote him and send FoeOfBush a royalty check.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

12. Not me, keep it going Clark

Clark did just fine.

[ozone_man]

14. No, but I wish he had actually done it.

I can understand the political reasons for not, just as Dean tip toed around the 911/Saudi connection. Clark might have won the debate if he had, but it would have been risky.

[Wapsie B]

15. Just don't fly

in any small planes for awhile Wes. We're gonna need you.

[Terwilliger]

18. he did NOT why are you giving us fantasy?

He DUCKED the question!

[Stephanie]

23. I don't think he ducked it

Michael Moore put up a transcript already:

The following is a rush transcript of the exchange between Peter Jennings (PJ) and Wesley Clark (WC) from this evening's debate in New Hampshire

PJ: General Clark, a lot of people say they don't know you well, so this is really a simple question about knowing a man by his friends. The other day you had a rally here and one of the men who stood up to endorse you was the controversial filmmaker Michael Moore. You said you were delighted with him. At one point Mr. Moore, said in front of you that President Bush, he was saying he'd like to see a debate between you the General and President Bush who he called a deserter. Now that's a reckless charge not supported by the facts so I was curious to know why you didn't contradict him and whether or not you think it would have been a better example of ethical behavior to have done so.

WC: Well I think Michael Moore has the right to say whatever he feels about this. I don't know whether this is supported by the facts or not. I've never looked at it. I've seen this charge bandied about a lot but to me it wasn't material, this election is going to be about the future, Peter, and what we have to do is pull this country together, and I'm delighted to have the support of a man like Michael Moore, of a great American leader like Senator George McGovern, and of people from Texas like Charlie Stenholm and Former Secretary of the Navy, John Dalton. We've got support from across the breadth of the Democratic Party, because I believe this party is united in wanting to change the leadership in Washington. We're going to run an election campaign that's about the future. We're going to hold the president accountable for what he did in office and failed to do, and we're going to compare who's got the best vision for America.

PJ: Let me ask you something you mentioned then because since this question and answer in which you and Mr. Moore was involved, you've had a chance to look at the facts. Do you still feel comfortable with the fact that someone should be standing up in your president, in your presence and calling the president of the United States a deserter?

WC: To be honest with you, I did not look at the facts Peter. That's Michael Moore's opinion; he's entitled to say that, I've seen, he's not the only person who's said that. I've not followed up on those facts, and frankly it's not relevant to me and why I'm in this campaign.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php

[MIMStigator]

26. I say it because by not saying no he isn't a deserter he left it out there

no points for that?

[Terwilliger]

29. he left it out there to allow Bush's stature to gain strength

if the truth is the truth...why should it wait?

[robsul82]

19. Hahaha, he said "I haven't looked into it," don't blatantly BS.

He could've answered it better.

Later.

RJS

[Ramsey]

24. He should have a stronger answer to that

Clark will be asked about the Michael Moore quote ad nauseum , and he definitely needs a better reply than "I haven't looked into that". Even I, totally non-military person that I am, know the difference between AWOL and deserter.

In my opinion, Clark should familiarize himself with W's dubious ANG record, and use that information the next time he is asked.

Maybe some of you Clark folks can send his campaign the links and info all of us have known about for years.

[arcane1]

31. I guess the tv masses now expect Clark to be "looking into it"

here's hoping they become curious about what he finds...

[Fleshdancer]

25. Um, last time I checked, Michael Moore wasn't a 4 star General.

eom

[arcane1]

28. Rove is going to release a "classified" document..

showing that Bush wasn't AWOL, that was just his CIA cover-story. He was really spending that time leading solo commando raids in Vietnam, thereby winning the Vietnam war and ending the threat of communism

:silly:

you heard it here first, folks :)

[grytpype]

30. Why not ask Bush to account for his whereabouts...

... during the period he is rumored to have been AWOL?

Very simple, if this is all just a fatuous rumor.

[Moderator]

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