What is the ulterior motive of the Repukes' dumping of Delay?

[BrklynLiberal]

It just cannot be that they suddenly realized that he is the total schmuck that the rest of us all knew about. Why all of a sudden are they so willing to throw him to the wolves? And what are they going to give him to make sure he keeps his mouth shut?
I just do not believe it is as straightforward as it looks.
Rove always has a Plan B!!!

[roguevalley]

1. someone is coming to their senses and sees him as a liability

also, he isn't a team player and I'm sure he's bothered a ton of other nazis.

[tinrobot]

2. They're going to give him his freedom.

He's already done enough to spend a lifetime behind bars, if convicted.

[proud patriot]

3. hmmmm..

POETIC EXTINCTION...desperate grasping , barely holding/unexplained convulsions of logic/Lashing out fierce screams of blame/thinking of survival Wailing Flailing/lying dealing death to survive/Screams , Pain , hate, agony , fear oh yes FEAR/Eating one's own, you know that kind of Fear The fear of nightmares/Camouflage it , hide behind it , meta morph it/puffing plumage raising hackles loudly barking changing colors/altering strategies smokescreens of stench/hungry predators, following the trail , searching/weakened hiding running Scared/hoping hoping predators circling/focused dedicated hungry/backed into a corner/Cowering Sniveling Crying ,THE EXTINCTION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY: by Proud Patriot

[BrklynLiberal]

9. from your keyboard to God's ears....... heh heh heh heh

[libhill]

10. Uh huh, Uh huh, I like it -

n/t

[concord]

21. Most excellent!

You've captured it.

[SpiralHawk]

25. Bravissimo/Bravisssima, Pro Pat !

Well ranted

giga-hucktoooeees.

[proud patriot]

31. thanks for the props ya'll

:D

[Alizaryn]

4. Hummm

My friend and I were just asking each other this same question a little while ago! I agree with you and think we need to be watching our backs and or Rove.

[jaysunb]

5. You give too much credit to

these slimeballs. They ALWAYS overeach ! That's why they stay out of power for such long stretches.
Rove is very smart, but he aint God. Shit happens.......

[frankly_fedup2]

16. Yeah, it takes them a while to get back in power; however, this last

mistake was a big one. He has almost totally destroyed this country.

By the way, anyone seen Cheney lately?

[Cha]

26. I like your

version!

[Inland]

6. Hate his guts, too.

Imagine being bossed around by that little creep, needing his money, fearing his wrath, but having to take more and more unpopular positions.

They'll dump him the second he costs more than he is worth.

[Mist]

15. His strong-arm tactics must have produced resentment.

Unity through intimidation can produce a backlash.

[Inland]

17. You'd HOPE so.

I would hope that the repub caucus was entirely full of lickspittles and fraidycats.

[BrainRants]

7. Patsy for all their fuckups heading into '06 midterms?

He could very easily become the lightening rod that takes the jolt for the party. (Ohhhh...I like the sound of that!)

Paybacks for Dascle are a bitch...

[BuyingThyme]

8. I'm missing the good stuff.

What is the best evidence to show that they're dumping him?

(I'm not taking a contrary position; I just haven't received the memo.)

[wyldwolf]

11. I must have missed that, too

...

[BrklynLiberal]

19. Here is another indication that DeLay is being hung out to dry

Frist Says Courts in Schiavo Case Acted Fairly
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1370923

[BuyingThyme]

20. Interesting...

One crap-on-the-Constitution Puke dissing another crap-on-the-Constitution Puke.

Cutting to the chase, it looks like you've spotted the motive:

They see DeLay's attacks on the Judiciary as a liability to their plans for future appointments. Spot on.

[leesa]

12. No the media filter didn't hold up and he has become political poison

Had the media kow-towing resisted reality correctly, he would be fine.

[applegrove]

13. If Delay's political death is a long drawn out affair.. Democrats may

regain some confidence and Repukes may loose some over-confidence. How can the WH pass all its agenda when it has not coerced opposition into silence.

[wyldwolf]

14. The Drudge headline?!?!?!?!?!?!

PAPERS LINK DELAY TO RUSSIAN LOBBY

NYT PAGE ONE LEAD, WASH POST PAGE ONE WEDNESDAY, NEWSROOM SOURCES TELL DRUDGE: Ethical questions surrounding House Majority Leader Rep. Tom DeLay of Texas intensify... A six-day trip to Moscow in 1997 by then-House Majority Whip Tom DeLay, R-Texas, was underwritten by business interests lobbying in support of the Russian government, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the trip arrangements.... Developing...

[BuyingThyme]

18. Breaking? Tom DeLay Is A Russian Spook

I can dream, can't I?

[bluedeminredstate]

22. They can't and won't

defend what sounds like threatening Judges. This administration and their enforcers do things on the QT. If they make good on their threats or displeasure, they leave no prints.
DeLay overreached on the Schiavo case which forced them to scramble to protect Chimperor's own maneuvers in the drama, then he acted like Tony Soprano in front of the whole country in a press conference - oblivious to the public's disgust. Those actions are now making his ethical and legal problems more of a problem since a lot of people didn't know much about him or his problems (they're all not junkies like us).
He is a liability now. The Chimp must not be compromised since he's tanking right now.
Plus he's an evil fuckwit along with the rest of them. There is no real loyalty.
Should be a good show.

:popcorn:

[TwilightZone]

23. It reminds me of how quickly they disposed of Trent Lott.

Trent Lott went from the golden child to nothing in no time. It looks like Delay might be following shortly.

[jdj]

24. yep, because the repukes discovered that fascists come in all colors.

I am glad for the most part that they no longer like to put villains like Jesse Helms out in the forefront. Sometimes changed is evidenced in the strangest ways. Sometimes it comes in sideways.

[Zan_of_Texas]

27. I was just thinking that, about Lott.

[FourStarDemocrat]

28. Of course Bill Frist was a big part of that, trying to take his place

I'd love to see the day when it's Frist's turn to go. That reactionary crook is just as bad as Delay, and I believe even more dangerous.

[Clark2008]

37. Of course he's more dangerous.

Frist is not a dummy.
For all the blustering and "red stater" accusations that goes on here, let's be honest. First is a heart surgeon. Damn, people, you don't get to be a heart surgeon because you actually look like "Bones" the cadaver.
But, Frist doesn't have THAT much common sense, either.
That's where you play First - the man who'd never voted until he was 46 years old.

[missouri dem 2]

29. And don't forget the newtster. They dropped him like a hot

potato when he became a liability. Rat boy delay has no friends just allies. He will get kicked plenty on the way down.

[Disturbed]

30. He's showing the real face of the Fascist Party.

That is a screw up so they want to distance themselves from him him.

[TwilightZone]

32. Good point. Delay's fall from grace would be nearly as precipitous as

Newt's was. Newt went from the de facto leader of the party to an has-been rather quickly.

[Zan_of_Texas]

34. I don't know that much about Newt. But DeLay

is known as mean. Likes to get his way, and makes those who resist PAY, is what I hear. He also raises a mountain of money to spread around, thus getting loyalty by using fear and rewards.

So, how would the Pubbies keep order and unity without DeLay?

[leftofthedial]

33. ritual bloodletting

the cult uses it to symbolically purge the larger body of greater evil

[realisticphish]

35. that's easy

a.)he has lived out his usefulness. when the SCLM starts to grab hold of stuff like this, they know it's over.

b.) they run him out on a rail...what does the voting public see? The republican party *ahem* ignoring politics and humbly and morally forcing out the "bad apple." ah, look, the pukes are true to their values, not money. thus, "fixing problems" and "GOP" are linked in voters' heads

the combination is clear to me

[Azathoth]

36. Self-preservation

Once a corrupt garbage dump like DeLay gains critical mass and begins to implode, there is nothing any of his cronies can do but back as far away from him as possible.

[lala_rawraw]

38. Yes, I agree...

I have spent a good deal of this evening discussing this very issue. My pet reporting project, in between news, has been the SS scam letters, which put Delay on my map. Given the huge amounts of fraud, money laundering and such, this latest flight overseas story is really a pin prick in the scheme of things. The Washington Post did not seem to care about the trip to Korea or the other trip to Moscow, both equal to this latest gaffe.

This seems too organized, too coherent. In the last week, as follows:

1).Cheney "distances himself"

2).WSJ writes a negative (well, not accurate with regard to fact, just simply emoting on the "smell" of him while mishandling the facts of the various allegations yet once again, and managing to take a swipe at the DA)

3). Washington Post article, front page and New York Times, front page ON THE SAME DAY.

Something is ago here, marching orders to take him down. The problem is that, and this is pure speculation on my part, Delay's destruction will create the following:

1). Open the door to, at the very least, serious questions about the Texas election via redistricting and thereby causing 5 possible seat losses.

2). Opens the door to questions about his friends in the House, which are already pretty suspect given the tribal money (google the top 5 GOP House members and tribal money).

3). It opens the door to other, unrelated allegations of possible bribery, extortion, and so forth (given again, the company kept by Delay, including Jack Abramoff and all the way to top GOP financing like the Morton Blackwells of the world).

So, what could be worth such a risky move? If this were a chess game, they are giving up the Queen and that is always a high price to pay, unless the tactic is required of strategy. So, here are my speculations on possible reasons, again, just my own speculations:

1). Partial-Truth-Abortion method practiced by Rove. Think of it as discrediting the truth by preempting it with partial truth. Rathergate is an example of such a trick. That would mean that his downfall will engulf attention fully, submerging the "whole" truth in the process. Remember Gannongate? It was of little interest to the general public that this man committed a crime described as "treason" by helping to out a CIA agent. Instead, the interest was purely scandal related, such as sex, hooker, etc.

Another, older example of this is Nixongate. What became Watergate overshadowed Nixongate entirely. My guess is that anything so destructive that it requires this type of move always, always, has to do with one of two things, if not both: money and drugs (sometimes Sex, but not really as much).

2). The REAL Republicans, moderates, planned this strategy and Rove had little to do with it (I tend to favor this because the first possibility is so risky and really, the NeoCons are jumping ship anyway, so why the move?). This is their way of pulling the right closer to center, because the GOP will not survive this administration. I know people like to argue that the Dems need to "rebuild" or some crap on the same track. The fact is, the Dems are weaker, to be sure and they are less organized, to be sure. But, the GOP is corruption embodied. This might be their way of trying to save their party.

3). Hastert and Frist are worried, they planned the strategy. I tend to find this one possible, but still favor 2 as the most likely reason.

Okay, that is that for me this evening. I have miles to go before I sleep and I have only slept 3 hours in the last 24.