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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 09:53 AM
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Opus Dei. Since Tweety (MSNBC-Haradball) is going to have
a program tonight on Opus Dei, what can you experts tell us that we should know before hand (if able or interested in watching).

Specifically, what won't MSNBC not tell us, brush off, omit? Is there an Illuminati connection?

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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 09:55 AM
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1. All that can be said honestly
Is that its opponents despise it, and its supporters love it.

Personally I suspect that most of what is said about it (by both detractors and supporters) is piffle.

However, there is certainly some financial dodginess floating around there.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 09:57 AM
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2. try this..
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 09:57 AM
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3. Tweety will shine a soft focus lens
on the organization and treat it as a some kind of service frat. He gets all glowy when he's talking about the Catholic Church.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 09:59 AM
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4. What can Hardball say about a secret organization/
It's not like he is doing any investigative journalism.

He'll have one guy speculating and another saying it's speculation.

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:02 AM
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5. Maybe he'll do one on "Fight Club"
:evilgrin:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:04 AM
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6. A MUST READ !......Opus Dei is a CULT....
Edited on Wed Apr-06-05 10:39 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
and evil IMHO...I lost my dearest and best friend 25 years ago to this insane and evil CULT. They taught her to hate her family and friends teaching her that they(even her mother and father, who are GOOD Catholics) are evil and cut off ALL communication with us.

Hannity, ORielly, Sancturm, Scalia, Clarence Thomas all supporters of this "FUNDIE" branch of Catholicism (or members) and if Cardinal Tantanni???-something from Italy is elected new pope I will leave the church (because he is the #1 guy who pushed to have Opus Dei sanctioned by the church) and I consider myself a good Catholic and attend Mass regularly. :scared:


April 5, 2005. Members of the conservative Roman Catholic group Opus Dei occupy leadership positions throughout the church. The late Pope John Paul II made the founder a saint in 2004. But critics of the movement accuse Opus Dei of unscrupulous brainwashing.

http://www.odan.org/media_roche.htm
"Whips, Spiked Garters and Bloodshed...My Terrifying Life in Ruth Kelly's Religious Sect," by John Roche, The Mail on Sunday, UK, January 23, 2005. A former member tells how a lust for power drives the secretive Catholic organisation Opus Dei.

<snip>
moved in to the Opus Dei house in Galway and was immediately caught up in hectic activity which, apart from my professional work, included the 'norms' religious practices that every member was expected to carry out daily. One important task was to proselytise among my friends.

Our day began at 7am with the 'heroic minute' jumping out of bed, kissing the floor and saying 'serviam' (I serve), followed by a cold shower.

Then came 30 minutes of meditation usually involving reflection on points from the Father's book of 999 aphorisms called The Way followed by Holy Mass and Communion and ten minutes of thanksgiving.

During the afternoon one wore the cilice, a spiked chain tied high around the upper thigh so the marks would not be visible when playing sports. The full 15 mysteries of the Rosary were included in the religious norms. One part was said in common but one had to find gaps in the day for the remaining parts. It was a constant anxiety to get the whole Rosary completed by the end of the day.

Before bedtime, we discussed those people about to 'whistle', reminded each other of the sheer wonder of Opus Dei and ridiculed lazy religious orders and secular clergy.

Then came more prayers and an examination of conscience. We were expected to be in bed three minutes later and the lights were often switched off while I was still undressing.

The supervision of our lives was almost total. To leave the house one had to get permission from the director. Members were not permitted to go to the cinema, theatre or public sports, or to sleep in their parents' house. One even had to get permission to read any book. Innumerable other rules from the Father concerned deportment, dress, relations with other members, how to write letters, how to make the best use of soap and how to close doors.

People who left were usually treated as if dead and never spoken of again.

Their photographs were removed from back issues of internal magazines and public display.

Opus Dei was a world very much apart from civil society. It was selfcentred to a degree almost impossible for anyone who has not been a member to understand.

I was soon introduced to further 'family customs', such as having my letters read, handing over my salary and sleeping on the floor.

Mortifications began to eat more and more into my day. I could not drink a cup of tea or watch a film without feeling guilty if I was enjoying it.

Personal friendships were forbidden in Opus Dei, although members were encouraged to show an indiscriminating cheerfulness, especially to outsiders, all of whom I learned to treat as potential recruits. High-pressure tactics were employed to work people up to the point of 'whistling'.


So has Opus Dei changed in the three decades since I left? From the parents who still call me and from the large body of literature by former members now available, it seems clear it is as secretive as ever, still alienates many children from their parents and society and frequently brings about a disorder of personality in its members.

It claims to be a lay organisation yet at all of its higher levels of authority it is run by the priests.

They maintain control by disabling the judgment of many members and their ability to assess objectively or criticise Opus Dei.

This is mainly achieved by undermining the semantics of ordinary language in a remarkably Orwellian manner. So extraordinarily successful are these techniques that lay members will claim to be completely free. It's thought-control raised to a fine art.

Opus Dei sees itself as a ruthless and highly disciplined multinational corporation with its members as units of production. Members know in their heart of hearts that if they fail to win recruits, bring in a substantial income, make important connections or lack absolute loyalty to the organisation or the Founder, they may be treated as pariahs.

more...
www.odan.org/

www.mond.at/opus.dei/


... Opus Dei Bishop Javier Echevarria kisses the hand of Pope John Paul II after ... “The Da Vinci Code,” Opus Dei is depicted as a dark and mysterious cult ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7288539/site/newsweek/

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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:46 AM
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12. did you mean Cardinal Tettamanzi?
Closest name I know of among the leading candidates for Pope.

I didn't know he was an Opus Dei type...that wasn't mentioned in anything I've read.

Cardinal Hummes of Brazil is said to be a supporter of Opus Dei.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:56 AM
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16. First Opus Dei Cardinal - Cipriani, Archbishop of Lima, Peru -eom
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:22 AM
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18. yes Cardinal Tettamanzi & Hummes.. but Tettamanzi is Opus Dei's #1
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:55 PM
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27. correction: Cardinal Hume was urged to carry out an investigation of OD..
and it was announced in the press that he would conduct an ...ahem...informal investigation of Opus Dei only in his own dioceses.

Tettamanzi supported Opus Dei and fought hard to stop the investigation and later championed the fight for Opus Dei to acquire the status of a personal prelature
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:13 PM
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33. Hume?
As in Basil of Britain?

I meant Claudio Hummes of Brazil. Different guy.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:06 AM
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7. Link to official site: and, who's Tweety, anyway...?
"Opus Dei is a personal prelature of the Catholic Church. It was founded in Madrid, Spain on October 2, 1928, by St. Josemaría Escrivá. Currently over 80,000 people from every continent belong to the prelature. Its headquarters, together with its prelatic church, are in Rome."

http://www.opusdei.org




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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:42 AM
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11. Opus Dei is an evil cult I know first hand what they are..read above pos
and "Tweety" is Chris matthew of MSNBC's hardball
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:47 AM
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13. Tweety is Chris Matthews
n/t
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:05 PM
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32. This is Opus Dei........

Opus Dei is an organization founded in Spain in 1928 by Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer. The stated aim of Opus Dei is to "spread throughout society a profound awareness of the universal call to holiness and apostolate through one's professional work carried out with freedom and personal responsibility." (Encyclopedia of Associations)

Opus Dei is made up of lay members and priests; Opus Dei laity continue to work in the secular world, but remain under the strict spiritual direction of Opus Dei. All Opus Dei members follow "the plan of life," made up of spiritual practices such as daily Mass, rosary, spiritual reading, and mental prayer, as well as Opus Dei prayers and customs.

There are different classes of membership in Opus Dei:


Numerary members pledge to remain celibate and generally live in Opus Dei houses. They commit their entire salaries to Opus Dei, submit incoming and outgoing mail to their directors, and practice various forms of corporal mortification, including use of the cilice, a spiked chain worn around the thigh, and use of the discipline, a knotted rope for whipping.

Supernumerary members may be married, and live with their families. They follow the same "plan of life" as the numeraries, but generally do not know about many of the details of numerary life. They contribute large portions of their income to Opus Dei, often at the expense of their local parishes.

Numerary priests join Opus Dei as lay members, but are then hand-picked by Opus Dei superiors to become priests of Opus Dei. Numerary priests hold the top government positions in Opus Dei. Many hold important positions in the Vatican. Each Opus Dei house is assigned a numerary priest, whose responsibilities include saying Mass, hearing confessions and giving spiritual direction to the Opus Dei members.

Associate Opus Dei members also pledge celibacy, but they generally do not live in Opus Dei houses. They include people who have not acquired university degrees, or who must remain with their families for personal reasons.

Numerary assistants are women who pledge celibacy, and are responsible for the care and cleaning of all Opus Dei residences.

Cooperators of Opus Dei provide financial support, but are not considered members of Opus Dei. Unlike Opus Dei members, cooperators do not have to be Catholic.


Despite its seemingly noble intentions, Opus Dei has stirred up controversy in countries all over the world. Families of Opus Dei members are almost never involved in the vocation process, (in fact Opus Dei itself often discourages its new members from even telling their families about their decision!) Also questionable are Opus Dei's recruiting tactics, which are comparable to the tactics used by cultic groups.

Perhaps most controversial is the effort to canonize Opus Dei's founder, Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer, who died in 1975 and was beatified amidst substantial controversy in 1992, and was canonized on October 6, 2002 in Rome, Italy. See ODAN's opposition to the canonization.

Also controversial in the early 1980's was the granting of Opus Dei to be a "personal prelature" within the Church. A personal prelature is an entity within the Catholic Church that is headed by a "prelate" (currently Javier Echevarria) and defined by persons rather than by geographical area (such as dioceses). Therefore, local bishops have little control over Opus Dei's membership, activities or practices.

Opus Dei has stated that there are approximately 80,000 Opus Dei members worldwide. Opus Dei is located in many countries, including England, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Australia, the Philippines, countries in Central and South America, and many others, including the United States. Opus Dei generally locates in or near major cities, often near prestigious universities, where they hope to attract recruits.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:08 AM
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8. Be prepared to be scared sh!tless
http://www.odan.org

They became quite big under the fascist Franco regime in Spain. Supposedly, the founder had fascist sympathies, too, and spoke admiringly of Hitler.

Enough said, IMHO.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:13 AM
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9. It is a $$$ cult within the Church, and very secretive.
It was founded by a notorious anti-Semite fascist priest, Jose Escriva - a complete nutjob.

They are into corporal mortification - this is usually what gets everyone's attention. It is also why Mel Gibson made such a bloody spectacle of "The Passion of the Christ".

What seems to be their sole purpose is to amass wealth and power for the Church. My best friend has spent time at their headquarters in Mexico City. She told me that the amount of wealth and power that flows thru that place would make the Jesuits look like Franciscan Friars - and that is saying something.

Among their more high profile mbrs: Rbt Hanssen (FBI dbl agent), Santorum, Scalia, Thomas, Mel Gibson.

They reject the ultimate authority of the Pope and Vatican II reforms. They are tolerated by the Holy See due to the amt of $$$ and power players they bring into the Church. One of the Cardinals considered a candidate for the Papacy is Opus Dei.

Whatever gloss job is done on Opus Dei, the real story will never be fully fleshed out - it is very, very secretive and they rule their privacy with an iron fist.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:19 AM
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10. Excerpt from "On a Mission from God...", by Maureen Farrell
Edited on Wed Apr-06-05 10:23 AM by Totally Committed
From BuzzFlash.com:

'On a Mission From God': The Religious Right and the Emerging American Theocracy
by Maureen Farrell
http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/03/far04007.html

Excerpt about Opus Dei:

4) Opus Dei

While FBI agent Robert Hanssen brought the Catholic organization Opus Dei to the prominence when he was caught spying for Russia, it is once again in the spotlight thanks to the best-selling book The Da Vinci Code. And while the group's secrecy appeals to some ("I think they really fly under everybody's radar screen and that they're a lot more powerful than a lot of people think," Rev. James Martin, associate editor of America magazine explained.) and its attitude towards pain and suffering appeals to others ("After I joined, they gave me a barbed-wire chain to wear on my leg for two hours a day and a whip to hit my buttocks with," former Opus Dei member Sharon Clasen said.) in April, 2001, The American Catholic co-editor Catharine A. Henningsen revealed why this highly secretive group might be of concern to average Joes:

"Immediately following that revelation that Hanssen was a member of Opus Dei] stories began to surface in the press claiming that FBI Director, Louis Freeh and Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas are also Opus Dei members. Opus Dei denies that Freeh, Scalia and Thomas are members, though Freeh sends his son to the Opus Dei School, The Heights, and Scalia's wife is reported to regularly attend Opus Dei functions. Robert Hanssen, Justice Scalia and Louis Freeh also all worship at St. Catherine of Siena parish in Great Falls, Virginia, where the Tridentine Latin Mass is offered, rather than the new order of the Mass declared by Paul VI."

"Whether or not an alleged member of Opus Dei, like Justice Antonin Scalia, enjoys a touch of the lash on his prodigious derriere from time to time, is certainly no business of ours," Mike Whitney wrote. "However, the affiliation of a Justice on the highest court in the land to an organization that, for all appearances, is nothing more than a right-wing cult should arouse not only suspicion, but an investigation."

Scalia's alleged membership notwithstanding, the fact that a mere three weeks after the Supreme Court agreed to take up the vice president's appeal in lawsuits concerning the administration's energy task force, Scalia traveled with Dick Cheney on Air Force Two to hunt on a private hunting reserve owned by an oil industry executive is unsettling. And Scalia's keynote speech before a Philadelphia-based advocacy group which actively opposes gay rights (during a time when the Supreme Court was weighing a landmark gay rights case) has also raised eyebrows.

This is an all-encompassing article about all the major extremist religious sects in America right now, and how their influence is being felt throughout society.

----

(Mel Gibson and his father are also members of Opus Dei. I mention this because of it may have been the influence of this sect that made his film about Christ so RW in perspective.)

I highly recommend the reading of this entire Editorial.

TC
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:49 AM
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14. I've been a Catholic all of my 61 years, and never heard of Opus Dei
but, when I first moved to Tx, I read about one Catholic Church there that still had the Latin Mass. Because that reminded me so much of my childhood while attending Catholic School, I decided to go there one Sunday Morning, just to see if my fond memories were accurate. WOW, was I shocked! First, everyone glared at me because I wasn't wearing a head cover...I forgot all about that requirement since it was sooo many years ago. Then they began the sermon. Shocker #2! They actually said any of the traitors who had abandoned the true latin mass, and all the other traditions of the real church were going to HELL!

I don't know if this was one of these Opus Dei places you are talking about, but I can tell you, I never went back to that church again. My memories of the latin hymns, and the pomp associated with that era are still very fond memories, but the mean, nasty attitude of those associated with it today...at least at that church in Tx...makes it a thing of evil, and I won't have anything to do with that group ever again!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:52 AM
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15. It's kind of like a secret cult...
I have heard (but don't know first-hand) that not everyone is allowed to join... There are many litmus tests one has to pass before acceptance.

TC

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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:58 AM
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17. Yup - you must be "invited" (recruited) -eom
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:26 AM
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19. how do we know Tweety isn't Opus Dei?
Well, I guess we'll find out tonight.

Another member: Louis Freeh.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:28 AM
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20. We don't...
that's just the nature of the beast.

TC
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:57 PM
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34. Ask him if he has one of the belts around his leg (cilice) see pic in post

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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:34 AM
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21. I read recently that Bob Novak converted to Catholicism
within the past year or two

Opus Dei sounds right up his alley -I wonder if they recruited him?

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:40 AM
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22. I have been told that he (Novak) is also Opus Dei...
I have a friend that used to work at CNN and told me this fact when I was researching this subject for a Blog post I was going to make.

TC
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:55 AM
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23. Video download-
Although it has been posted here before,

MUST see/listen, imo... (Opus Dei discussed)

"The Rise of Dominionism"
recorded October, 2004, 44 minutes
Download audio and video documenting the Rise of Dominionism (no charge, no copyright)
http://www.theocracywatch.org/audio-video.htm

Cornell University's Joan Bokaer explains Dominionism and Reconstructionism and their hijacking of American government.

TheocracyWatch is a project of the Center for Religion, Ethics and Social Policy (CRESP) at Cornell University. CRESP is a nonsectarian, action-based educational organization with its roots in religious dialogue, human rights advocacy, and ethical thought.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/audio-video.htm


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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:01 PM
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24. Bush Loves CULTS! They Mean CULTure Of Life
You have to be in a cult to believe it! Jeb was sweet talkin' the Scientologists yesterday and of course the Moonies are ALLLLL into the Bush family & GOP shit. Basically they are like a union of cults and they've taken over.

Let's hear it from Rev Moon himself, from the Unification Church website, in this section he addresses the true evil in America: Unions! YOU MUST GO TO THIS SITE AND CHECK IT OUT. GOP RHETORIC IS MOON RHETORIC RIGHT DOWN THE LINE.

Invastion of the Body Snatchers time, people, I'm serious, check it out:

"We will make a religious union. We can do that, can’t we? Let’s say I make a religious union. Will you join with me? Will you make it? (Yes.) Your answer should be yes.

Our unification members work all their lives and receive modest pay. Not only that, they even offer some of their earnings. Can a union exist in this kind of environment? No way.. I can clean the mess America has within three to seven years. So, unions eventually will disappear."

WAKE UP AMERICA! RESIST Moonies, RESIST BushCo!


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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:45 PM
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26. Links??
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:56 PM
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28. Link is here...
The Union ref here is waaaay down, scroll down....the rest of it is all sorts of wacky marriage shit!!

There are TONS of moonie speeches on this archive, everybody must check these out. The parallels with the GOP dittohead shit are amazing. You can search any political subject (ie, "unions") from the front page and a Moonie speech will come up SOOOOO CREEEPY.

http://www.unification.net/2001/20010113_1.html
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:00 PM
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30. More from this link:
Bermuda Triangle? Is that what happens to disappeared Moonies? OMG this guy is so bizarre...

"Are you all confident to register into the Kingdom of Heaven? There is a difference between Heung Jin, God, and Jesus. If I represent God, Heung Jin is like Jesus. You must understand that you registered into the Kingdom of Heaven with a course remaining to pass through. If you don’t want to die by accident in some Bermuda triangle, you must pass the test."
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:41 PM
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25. a malignant growth within the Church......PLEASE READ......
It is easy to be impressed by Opus Dei, with its beautiful buildings, its energy, its sense of purpose, its likeable, well-dressed members, and its apparent loyalty to traditional catholicism. But this is only one face of Opus Dei. Internally it is totalitarian and imbued with fascist ideas turrned to religious purposes, ideas which were surely drawn from the Spain of its early years. It is virtually a sect or cult in spirit, a law unto itself, totally self-centred, grudgingly accepting Roman authority because it still considers Rome orthodox, and because of the vast pool of recruits accessible to it as a respected Catholic organisation. While its founder, 'the Father', J.M. Escriva, was alive he was the object of an almost hysterical personality cult deliberately fostered by himself and by the organisation in various ways which included the spreading of whispered stories that he received visitations from the Virgin Mary, the elaborate staging of 'get-togethers' with him, and through Opus Dei's internal publications. As a condition of membership he demanded acceptance that 'The Work' was Divinely revealed to him, that it was therefore 'absolutely perfect', and that he was infallible in matters of the 'spirit of the Work'. It is easy to understand why, therefore, it could happen, in 1973, that a senior member of the Work told me that if a choice had to be made he would follow the Father rather than the Pope, since the Founder himself at that time frequently stated that the 'Church was rotten' and that 'he no longer believed in Popes or Bishops.'

Opus Dei has a grotesquely inflated opinion of itself, calling itself "everlasting," the "predilect of God," the "Mystical Body," referring to "the beauty of the Work of God ... which is more luminous than 'the dawn, fair as the Moon, bright as the Sun, terrible as an army with banners'." Opus Dei believes that it is the new chosen people, that its founder is a new Abraham, and that it has an "'imperative command from Christ" to recruit the rest of the human race, including the Catholic Church, into the organisation. It should be no surprise therefore that its almost exclusive goal is its own aggrandizement through religious, political, and economic influence within the Church and in secular society, and above all by recruitment.

To understand the Work it is necessary to realise that "proselytism" is its driving passion: "University residences, universities, publishing houses ...are these ends? ...no, rather means ...and what is the end? ...to promote the greatest possible number of souls dedicated to God in Opus Dei." Every school, youth club, cultural centre run by the Work has this goal as its first, hidden, purpose. It has developed a variety of successful techniques to persuade young people to join which are closer in spirit to the methods of the more notorious contemporary cults. "Love-bombing" has long been used, the provision of a total environment, and the gradual alienation from family, friends, and the Church. Young people are often encouraged to join at 14-1/2 years of age and are discouraged from telling their parents. Various methods of "holy coercion" are used in dealing with the reluctant which includes warning them that "not to heed the clear call of God ...can be fatal for the soul... a radical opposition to the Will of God."

Those who join as celibate "numerary members" live very narrow lives and are worked relentlessly. Every detail of their lives is regimented, they are bound by absolute obedience to their directors who are "almost infallible," they are taught "to give in to what in their consciences seems to be an error" and "to cede all rights." They are told that "there is no need to think, everything is written." and innumerable other techniques of thought-control are used. They are taught that Opus Dei is an "organism," that only the "whole is efficacious," that "our ego has died and our only concern is the collective ideal." Not only are members not allowed to go to the theatre, cinema, or football games, they are only allowed to watch approved television programmes and read a few approved books and newspapers. Their spiritual reading is almost entirely confined to the writings of the founder who is "a latter-day Doctor of the Church," and from whom these quotations are mostly drawn. As a result of this many members become depersonalised, stereotyped and shadows of their former selves.

Members are tightly controlled financially, handing over their salaries and being effectively persuaded to make out their wills to Opus Dei seven years after they have joined. Their letters are read, they are subjected to frequent "classes of formation," weekly "confidences" with their director and a priest, and are coerced into submissive obedience. Some are pressed, against their wills, into becoming priests. Members are trained to appear joyful in their encounters with the public, to declare that they are very happy in Opus Dei, and that Opus Dei is a wonderful family. In fact Opus Dei is harsh and unbalanced, its members are locked into the strange mentality of its founder, and live in a world totally insulated from outside criticism. Many of the ordinary members are sincere though misguided, but the higher the level of government in Opus Dei the more reprehensible its conduct. Most alarmingly, members are cut off from the life, thought, and protection of the Church by the closed self-sufficiency of Opus Dei, by its hostility and contempt for just about every element in the Church, by its effective prohibition of anyone consulting a priest outside Opus Dei, and by its siege mentality.

Opus Dei is supervised internally by its more ardent "inscribed" members who ensure that there is no public criticism within the organisation. Criticism is effectively contained in private discussions with a director. These also see to it that backsliding members receive "holy coercion" to perform the many devotional norms, and ensure that any deviation of conduct, speech or dress is rapidly remedied by means of "fraternal correction." Members flagellate themselves, wear a spiked chain, and the women sleep on boards nightly, practices no longer recommended by the Church. Members who are thought not to practice sufficient physical self-mortification, or not to be sufficiently active in proselytism are sometimes criticised openly. Opus Dei abounds in stories of the Founder's bloodied discipline. Women members are not allowed to visit parents, sometimes even when they are dying, and are not allowed to attend family gatherings such as weddings or Christmas or even to sleep at home, causing untold anguish to parents. Members are encouraged to practise the "apostolate of not giving," which they believe to be a Christian virtue, and which means in practice that they are not allowed to give alms to the Church or to the poor, are not allowed to give presents to anyone, not even at family weddings and are pressed to cultivate friendships with the wealthy to obtain gifts of money. Members are allowed no holidays, receive no gratitude, are worked relentlessly, and quickly learn the truth of the boast of the Father that "we end up exhausted, squeezed out." Opus Dei is also anti-intellectual and is virtually without interest in the cultural life of its members. There is anxiety within Opus Dei about all of this, but it has no voice. Both internal and external secrecy are practised, members being supplied with caricatures of outside criticisms. Yet this is what Opus Dei describes to potential recruits as "living as ordinary Christian lay people in the middle of the World."

Opus Dei is an Orwellian world employing much double-think and internal and external deception. A glossy image has been elaborated for potential recruits, church dignitaries, and the press, which is very misleading. A general rhetoric of self-description has also been developed for internal consumption, safe from the ears of the Church, which applies to Opus Dei every imaginable flattery. The language of practical directives, however, is harsh, and unambiguous. Although it is incompatible with the rhetoric, few realise it. Members who criticize and think of leaving are warned that they risk damnation, are told, untruthfully, that those who leave bitterly regret it, are called traitors, and if they persist are expelled without a penny. As a result there are a lot of very disturbed people in Opus Dei living a kind of horror without escape which only a religious conscience can experience. I know of several cases of virtual house arrest and interrogation and of attempted and perhaps even successful suicides. On the other hand many members of Opus Dei are happy with their way of life, and Opus Dei would still get recruits if it was honest about itself. Most members have a strong sense of belonging and although their thought on many matters becomes stereotyped and partisan, they live in a world of certainties, with a strong sense of loyalty, purpose and support. Those who do leave are sometimes subjected to systematic defamation which also explains why many former members are afraid to speak out. There is much talk of the Devil in Opus Dei; and critics of the organisation, whether in the episcopate or among the laity, are held to be either doing the work of the devil or to be Marxists. Ridicule is also commonly used, a tactic recommended by the Founder. On the other hand physical violence is not used against its detractors, which is something to be grateful for in an age of violence.

Opus Dei controls a vast multinational business organisation. It has become enormously wealthy through its "Auxiliary societies," which are economic enterprises controlled by Opus Dei and run by its lay members. Opus Dei's economic activities have a history of scandals reflecting a very casual internal attitude towards social ethics. Members were encouraged by the Founder to help each other in securing "professional prestige," and titles and honours sought after as "apostolic bait." The Founder himself obtained the title of Marquis of Peralta. In pursuit of spreading "the spirit of Opus Dei" everywhere it strives to secure the friendship of, and to "impress" influential lay catholics, politicians, industrialists, and churchmen. All of this is carried out with the utmost "discretion," members ordinarily being forbidden by their Constitution to reveal to outsiders that they belong to Opus Dei.

Opus Dei invests an enormous effort into spreading an attractive but largely false image of itself in the media. It runs newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, colleges of journalism, a news agency, and it is involved in the cinema and television. Its many journalist members use their influence to give publicity to its official image, to suppress unfavourable articles about Opus Dei, and to persuade apparently uninvolved friends to write "spontaneous" letters defending Opus Dei in stereotyped language. Opus Dei is engaged at present in winning control of various catholic newspapers and magazines. It aims to "drown evil in an abundance of good." It is fiercely energetic and unremittingly persistent in everything it does.

Opus Dei's drive to recruit parish clergy, who develop a narrow sectarian commitment, is particularly worrying. They are used by Opus Dei to gather intelligence about local clergy, and Bishops even, which is sent to Rome. Another alarming feature is that it is potentially self-perpetuating. Perhaps three-quarters of its members are married and take partial vows. They learn to regard their membership of Opus Dei "as more important than their wives and children," and to encourage their children to join the organisation. Opus Dei also has Bishops among its members. In 1973 there was some discussion in Opus Dei of the possibility of a schism, since the Founder intensely disliked Pope Paul VI and the effects on the Church of the Vatican Council.

Opus Dei at present is engaged in the most ambitious venture of its entire history. It is attempting to push through quickly the canonisation of its Founder as to secure respectability for the organisation. I understand that one of the Devil's Advocates is a priest of Opus Dei. It has recently secured the status of a personal prelature which will qive it independence from the local Bishops. Most ambitious of all it is attempting to secure key positions in the government of the Church, with the best intentions of course, just as it virtually took over the government of Spain in the last years of Franco. The personal prelature will allow Opus Dei to spread everywhere ignoring the local bishops. It denies this but its record in telling the truth is poor. Its members will now be even less protected by the Church than they have been, and Opus Dei is one step closer to becoming a sect. Should it gain control over key organs of government of the Church, the spirit of the Vatican Council will be gravely threatened, as also will be the unity and moral integrity of the Church.

What Opus Dei needs is not more independence but more control by the Church. It is high time a full investigation was carried out into what is to some degree a malignant growth within the Church.



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29. Interesting Church battle: Opus Dei vs Jesuits
If the Jesuits teamed up w/the Dominicans and Franciscans, this could be very interesting indeed!!

I must admit, watching the power play from the sidelines is QUITE INTERESTING.

Their power sources come from such varied places....

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31. The Church Is SO Stupid!! If They SAY, "Don't Read This..."
it's only totally guaranteed that everyone who hasn't read it will read it.....DUUUUH!!!!
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