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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:46 AM
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Here is Peter Jennings e-mail
from LBN

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/WorldNewsTonight/WNT_newemail_form.html

Heres where Peter Jennings said calling him AWOL is a RECKLESS CHARGE NOT SUPPORTED BY THE FACTS!!

<snip>

At one point Mr. Moore, said in front of you that President Bush, he was saying he'd like to see a debate between you the General and President Bush who he called a deserter. Now that's a reckless charge not supported by the facts so I was curious to know why you didn't contradict him and whether or not you think it would have been a better example of ethical behavior to have done so.
(the rest is at Michael Moore.com)

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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:49 AM
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1. hehehe
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 01:49 AM by lcordero
reverse psychology

they want Clark to win. They proved that by bringing the charge to the attention of the viewers watching the program.:evilgrin:
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:05 AM
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2. sent the Dick an email
disallusioned with ABC and most of mainstream media, Jesus..Brit Hume conducted himself better than Peter Jennings.
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:13 AM
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3. What was Clark's response?
I missed it..
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copithorne Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:24 AM
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6. I sent an email
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 02:27 AM by copithorne
My message:

In the recent Democratic Presidential Debate Peter Jennings disgraced himself by saying that Michael Moore's charge that George Bush was a deserter was "reckless" and "unsupported by the facts."

If Peter Jennings has new information verifying George Bush's service from May 1972 to May 1973 he should report it.

Otherwise, it is Peter Jennings making reckless charges. Peter Jennings talks about Wesley Clark's ethical standards. But he has doesn't seem to have ethical standards of his own.

Michael Moore has exhaustively documented the facts that back up his assertion. These facts have been ignored by Peter Jennings. Peter Jennings' slander of Michael Moore, and his insinuations against Wesley Clark have damaged his credibility in my eyes.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:53 AM
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10. Clark said TWICE that he had more
important matters to discuss. Clark refused to be trapped into defending either Moore or Chimp and Clark never denied that it was true that chimp is an AWOLer, Jennings got nowhere but looking an assh*le. Jennings acted like he was genuinely outraged that anyone would dare to attack chimp's military service. :shrug: :argh: :grr:
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:22 AM
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4. I sent one as well.
May they all rot in hell!!!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:24 AM
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5. mine...
Dear Peter,

Some of Michael Moore's stories are flawed, but he has never produced anything as reckless or dishonest as your program's story last week about "Dean's trooper."

You should follow up on Moore's charges about Bush's military record, add some class to "World News Tonight."
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:27 AM
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7. AWOL vs. Deserter
There is a difference.

Jennings probably used the word deserter because it is a charge that most likely cannot stick.

bush did return which pretty much eliminates the possibility of the eserter charge. (If it was done at the time, that'd be another story)

AWOL is another matter altogether. bush was AWOL and there is no doubt about it in my mind.
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snyttri Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:43 AM
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8. I sent one
This reminds me of the academy awards speech when the whole world came down on Moore and Clark spoke up for his freedom of speech.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:29 AM
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9. Here's my note to Pete....
"Mr. Jennings-

I want to thank you for asking what I really think is a question that is most relevant to this election.

Was Mr. Bush a deserter?

What I don't understand is the framing of your question to General CLark.

"At one point, Mr. Moore said, in front of you, that President Bush --he's saying he'd like to see you, the general, and President Bush, who he called a "deserter."

Now, that's a reckless charge not supported by the facts."

Why is that a reckless charge not supported by the facts?

The facts, as you well know, show a record that Mr. Bush cannot account for. It is a very important question for the American people to ponder.

The character of our President is littered with many question marks....AWOL/desertion, Harkin insider trading, land deals for stadiums, bin Laden investment money.

He was installed as President over the clear mandate of the American people. Since then, we have seen a war against Democrats and a war on Iraq based on lies. We know about the PNAC plan for Pax Americana.

So why did you spring this on General Clark? With a leading editorial comment on your expected response?

I, for one, am glad that the General did not take the easy way out and provide innoculating cover for the unelected fraud.....it's about character Mr. Jennings.

Perhaps you can do some research and report to us as to what you found. Isn't that what journalists used to do?

Sincerely,

OAITW
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 08:18 AM
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11. Why not calmly ask for an ABC News Investigation instead?
As soon as I can get to email, I'll write Peter Jennings along the lines of:

Dear Peter Jennings:

Please investigate President Bush's military record to determine if he was AWOL during his service in the National Guard. I believe this matter needs to be explored further by ABC News.

In response to your question to General Clark, Michael Moore has listed his research on the matter, including links to a series of articles in the Boston Globe. You can find his response at http://www.michaelmoore.com/

I greatly admire the work of ABC news, and would like to see this issue dealt with.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 08:53 AM
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12. I just sent him an email and NOW
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 09:04 AM by in_cog_ni_to
we need to encourage Michael Moore to go to NH and RUN with this story. Email Michael! mike@michaelmoore.com

Go, Wes!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:03 AM
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13. As a longtime viewer I recommended Brian Ross be put on this

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A59151-2000Jun25¬Found=true

Records of Bush's Ala. Military Duty Can't Be Found

In May, retired Gen. William Turnipseed, the former commander of the Alabama Guard unit, said Bush did not report to him, although the young airman was required to do so. His orders, dated Sept. 15, 1972, said: "Lieutenant Bush should report to Lt. Col. William Turnipseed, DCO, to perform equivalent training."
"To my knowledge, he never showed up," Turnipseed said last month.
http://web.archive.org/web/20000619121358/http://www.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/One_year_gap_in_Bush_s_Guard_duty+.shtml
One-year gap in Bush's National Guard duty
No record of airman at drills from 1972-73

On the lack of coverage
http://www.uaw.org/cap/01/news/day3media.html

Let me give you some statistics," responded panelist Paul Begala, "I worked for Bill Clinton in 1992 and …in anticipation of this very question, I looked this up on Nexis. There were 13,641 stories about Bill Clinton 'dodging the draft' …and there were 49 stories about Bush and the National Guard," Begala said.

And here is a timeline.

http://uggabugga.blogspot.com/2003_01_12_uggabugga_archive.html#87590816

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:10 AM
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14. I just sent him this
You commented to Wesley Clark in the recent New Hampshire debate:

"At one point Mr. Moore, said in front of you that President Bush, he was saying he'd like to see a debate between you the General and President Bush who he called a deserter. Now that's a reckless charge not supported by the facts so I was curious to know why you didn't contradict him and whether or not you think it would have been a better example of ethical behavior to have done so."

Your position is wrong and the facts bear out precisely the allegation made by Mr. Moore.

During the Vietnam war, Mr. Bush was absent without leave from the Texas National Guard (or the Alabama National Guard if you will) for twelve months. There is no record whatsoever of him reporting for duty witin that twelve month period.

Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, this is desertion.

I suggest you start doing your job so that comedians don't have to do it for you.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:18 AM
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15. Can someone answer this question???
A freeper just called in to C-SPAN and told Brian Lamb, another freeper, that the chimp got "AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE" from the military and he is SOOOOOO tired of hearing the left wing Michael Moore say otherwise. The guy says he hears this SAME thing, every day and he is just SOOOOOO tired of it....and then he says to Lamb, who was smirking, "You know what I'm saying, it's EVERY DAY!" and Lamb rolled his eyes and said, "Yeah, I hear it every day." Basically agreeing with his fellow freeper on the phone. Was the chimp "honorably discharged?" or not. If so, where's the paper to prove it?

I'm thinking, a dangerous thing :), since the administration brought this out, maybe? they have something to say he was not AWOL and are trying to make Michael Moore and Clark look bad by letting Michael come out with the Globe, Washington Post, ect...articles and then WHAM! Look what WE have. A document proving Bush was "honorably discharged."

But THEN, I recall reading an article about CNN getting a phone call from the WH threatening to send in the SEC to do an audit if they didn't stop talking about the chimp being AWOL. That was right after the SCOTUS appointed him president....early on in his term. So, what's up?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 12:33 PM
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16. Seems a "missing document" could be fabricated quite easily.
And who would be around to challenge it? While I truly believe that was true, I also think this administration would not be above a simple forgery.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 12:40 PM
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17. He did get an honorable discharge
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030411.html

But that doesn't explain the missing time.
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Loren645 Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:40 PM
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18. Email kick. Let's pelt the Faux ABC windbag with Moore and Howler
"facts."
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