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Fri Apr-15-05 09:26 AM
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Lori Price: CLG: only a twit would not suspect US gov. " bioterror" |
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Only a narrow-vision gullible *twit* witha brain the sized of a lima bean would, by now, when all the pieces of thepuzzle are nearly assembled, all the Neo-conmen's ducks are in a row - would*not* suspect the US government's complicity in fomenting bioterror! Everypiece of legislation spewed by the GOP-controlled congress and Hitler-incarnatehimself (that would be *Bush*) have buried in bills submerged in Orwellianmonikers, deep in crevices that the Penta-Post dare not cover - full authorityto commence quarantines, force inoculations, imprison citizens in internmentcamps, etc. Hell, the Bush regime is *dying* for it. 70 million+ deaths solvesall of the Bush regime's problems (just like their 9/11 attacks paved the wayfor the illegal invasion of Iraq);they can then seize the last of the world's resources and divvy it up betweenthemselves. In the meanwhile, the Halliburton whores can continue to get richby building more prisons and internment camps, to house future malcontents. Asfor me... "We want either a hammer or a fire, to break the spell ordissolve the ice." -- artisan radical freethinker, George Jacob Holyoake, Reasoner V (1848): 2. --Lori Price
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Fri Apr-15-05 09:30 AM
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1. Should I start packing my bags? |
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(Or maybe just start packing!)
I don't know... This is one of those things that I'm fighting really hard to not lean into needing my tinfoil hat. But the numerous deaths of bio and genetic scientists who were renowned in their fields keeps gnawing at me. :scared:
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Fri Apr-15-05 09:35 AM
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2. Also, remember when bush tried to make everyone get a |
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vaccination for small pox? The medical professionals refused and that was that. I always thought that was going to be the next fake attack and scare tactic to get more americans scared and willing to give up more rights.
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Fri Apr-15-05 02:49 PM
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3. I think there is some truth to this |
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Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 03:23 PM by sharonking21
(Edited to take out redundant word}
The big push from Bush et al to get universal small-pox immunizations going was, I think, a part of the political run-up to the war. I was in public health at the time. My boss was one of the sitting members of the American College of Immunization Physicians (ACIP). CDC was recommending ring vaccination only and only in the event of one confirmed case of smallpox.
Bush et al had glommed onto enough of the old type vaccine to immunize everyone in the US. It was a terrible idea because that could very well kill more people than it saved. The old-type immunizations are among the riskiest kinds of vaccinations and should be given only if there is real danger--a confirmed case of smallpox. In that instance it would be given in a ring around the confirmed case--not to everyone. It works even if you have already been exposed. If there is actually a case around, it suddenly becomes worth the risk.
At first we in public health couldn't figure out why in the hell Bush et al were soooo insistent upon their plan. We wondered if they knew something they were not telling us or if they were just plain stupid.
Everyone in CDC, public health, and in ACIP fought the universal immunizations tooth and nail. We finally won, but to do so had to have lots of our public health people vaccinated in order to handle an outbreak and the ring vaccinations if it happened. Public health and emergency workers ended up taking the risk that was intended for everyone.
Shortly after the war started, I suddenly realized why Bush et al wanted to immunize everyone so terribly badly. It was, to them a fortuitous (having gotten enough old vaccine) way to get people involved and invested in the war effort. A lot like the old FDR trick of having everyone save tinfoil to be melted down for airplanes back in WWII. But the Bush plan was downright malicious in that lots of people could have died.
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Fri Apr-15-05 03:19 PM
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4. Incidentally though . . . |
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Please note that CDC, state public health agencies, ACIP, most of the private medical community, etc. were not, in fact, a party to any kind of conspiracy and indeed were working hard to prevent bad things from happening.
Yes there is political pressure, but most of the science-based agencies are full of people who absolutely abhor this kind of thing. And Bush et al are trying to circumvent the opposition by getting non-science-based individuals in charge of things. Have a little faith in your governmental public servants and resist with all your might the "stacking" of scientific advisory committees and the appointment of non-scientific or nut-case agency heads.
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Fri Apr-15-05 06:03 PM
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5. This topic is important, thanks for your responses in insights |
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