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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:06 PM
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Florida Commissioner proposes GENOCIDE
Commissioner pushes sterilization for child abusers

Tampa, Florida - Hillsborough Commissioner Ronda Storms says it is time to try something new. She says something has to be done to drastically reduce the number of child abuse cases, so she's proposing sterilization as a punishment.

Under International Law and the Conventions on Genocide. Forced sterilization is considered genocide. It can not only be used wipe out ethnic groups but on the individual level Family bloodlines. Like sterilizing Jeb Bush because his neglect of his daughter in the pursuit of his political career has made her a drug addict. George is next. He has neglected his daughters into alcoholism got his political career. Once all the Bush males have been sterilized. The Bush family bloodline will become extinct.

I know this a bad example for my argument against on this board. But in defense of my example I have to say that I couldn't think a child abuser people might like. So.....
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:39 PM
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1. Florida is one sick state
Used to think Texas was #1 in that category, but lately Florida surpasses it.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:09 PM
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4. Nothing Good Comes Out Of Florida Anymore.
I used to love Florida. They made such wonderful contributions to America. Citrus crops, beautiful beaches and resorts, and lets not forget all the wonderful things that came from that Magic Kingdom. They need to get rid of those damned Bush's and find another Walt Disney. He was truely a great man.
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SangamonTaylor Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:57 PM
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11. yeeee haaaaa
Glad to hear that Texas has moved down to #2

(btw, did you hear about the Texas House bill that proposes to ban gays and lesbians from becoming foster parents??!?!)

I personally can't wait until I get out of this state....err, wait, I'm moving to DC (the only place scummier).
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:45 PM
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2. they need to hire more people. but then, that would mean spending
money on disposable people. Nah. lets keep the system we have, thank you. :sarcasm:

If they make all the abusers, even the dicks like Jeb, then fine. If not, if this is another punishment for being poor, no. However, thinking that the bush line would eventually be extinct is a powerful argument. :)
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:25 PM
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8. Leave them alone and let natural selection take over
The Bush's are their own worst enemies and highly vendictive. So eventually they would go after themselves and do themselves in.
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:48 PM
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3. Ah so we're going back to eugenics?
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 05:53 PM by rockedthevoteinMA
:wtf: Favored by the nazis, but developed in this country...

Book explores eugenics' origins
By Dan Vergano, USA TODAY
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Eugenics came into vogue in the early 20th century. With a name coined in 1883 by British anthropologist Francis Galton, who hoped to see arranged marriages improve mankind, the movement eventually led to racist laws, such as ones prohibiting miscegenation, in many U.S. states, and the sterilization of more than 60,000 mental and moral "defectives."

"It's startling how much Hitler idealized American eugenics," Black says. His book required two years of research by dozens of volunteers who culled records from about 110 archives, diaries of eugenicists, case records of their victims and research reports on removing the unfit from humanity. The research builds on Black's best-selling book, IBM and the Holocaust, which looked at Nazi use of data-processing technology to fill concentration camps.

In War Against the Weak, Black lays bare the veins of collaboration between American eugenicists and Nazi scientists. There was financial support of genetic research and travel by Nazi doctors from the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie Institution of Washington, and Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, a leading genetics research institute. There was research collaboration and reports on the Nazi efforts in respected journals like the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). Black also describes:

• Biologist Charles Davenport, head of the Eugenics Record Office based at Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.) Laboratory. He wrote eugenics textbooks widely used in universities and high schools and led drives for sterilization laws that eventually emerged in 33 states. He supported "racial hygiene" concepts.
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more at link
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2003-09-14-book-usat_x.htm
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:20 PM
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6. Some people
Just have no faith in natural selection. Only the strong survive.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:21 PM
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7. The Darwin family gave us eugenics
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 06:25 PM by DulceDecorum
Darwinism played a key role not only in the rise of eugenics, but also in euthanasia, infanticide, abortion, and racial extermination, all ultimately embraced by the Nazis. He convincingly makes the disturbing argument that Hitler built his view of ethics on Darwinian principles rather than nihilistic ones. From Darwin to Hitler is a provocative yet balanced work that should encourage a rethinking of the historical impact that Darwinism had on the course of events in the twentieth century.
http://www.csustan.edu/History/Faculty/Weikart/FromDarwintoHitler.htm

Not bad for a 22-year old twit on a cruise.

Francis Galton (1822-1911) was an English scientist who studied heredity and intelligence. He was the person who coined the word eugenics, using Greek words to express what was originally a Greek concept.
He was a cousin of Charles Darwin. Erasmus Darwin was Francis Galton's maternal grandfather and also Charles Darwin's paternal grandfather. Erasmus Darwin developed a theory of evolution that Charles Darwin later expanded and refined.
In Memories of My Life, Galton said that the publication of Darwin's book on evolution stirred a rebellion against religious dogma: "The publication in 1859 of The Origin of Species by Charles Darwin made a marked epoch in my own mental development, as it did in that of human thought generally. Its effect was to demolish a multitude of dogmatic barriers by a single stroke, and to arouse a spirit of rebellion against all ancient authorities whose positive and unauthenticated statements were contradicted by modern science."
http://www.eugenics-watch.com/roots/chap02.html

But discussion of eugenics nowadays is almost pointless since
Buck v Bell paved the way for Roe v Wade.
Buck v Bell was widely quoted and deeply admired by the Nazis. Buck v Bell has yet to be overturned. It is STILL valid law.
The theory of peak oil,
and the invasion/extermination of the people of Iraq
is another reason why eugenics cannot be discussed.

Eugenics is dedicated to the proposition that all men are created unequal and the food is running short; that, in the struggle for food, those who have an inherited advantage prevail and pass the advantage on to their children who prevail even more; that this is how evolution, Yale and the English aristocracy happened. A further belief is that, at this point in evolution, the more evolved must take destiny and the less evolved in hand. Selection must not be left to chance for chance is cruel, capricious and, all too often, expensive but must instead be led by the kindly elite - Harvard professors, British aristocrats, Serbian psychiatrists, Aryans and so on. But death control, which has been the main method used by natural selection or chance, for termination of useless populations, must be replaced by birth control which is cheaper, and, as Charles Darwin pointed out in The Descent of Man, more effective.
http://www.eugenics-watch.com/index.html

The avalanche has started: it is too late for the lemmings to vote.

On edit:
For those of you who do not know, Buck v Bell is a case that went to the Supreme Court and they ruled in favor of forced sterilization. This is STILL OK and is what is on the verge of being re instituted in Florida. And wait till you see the voting districts where this shall be carried out .....
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:18 PM
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5. Save the baby sperms!!!!!
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 06:18 PM by MyPetRock
They can't help what that POS brain stem makes them do! :sarcasm:
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:27 PM
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9. Somebody should have sterilized Flora Sheldon Bush
...before she gave birth to Prescott and started this shit.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:01 PM
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10. The word "genocide" has acquired far, far too many meanings. n/t
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:45 PM
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12. I think that in the Ctholic church, sterilization is considered a no no.
Like abortion and IUD's. Looks like this lady did not check with the religious folks.
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