DU Approval Ratings: Wes Clark

[Dave Sund]

Barbara Boxer Approve: 92% Disapprove: 8%
John Kerry Approve: 79% Disapprove: 18% No Opinion: 3%
Hillary Clinton Approve: 44% Disapprove: 48% No Opinion: 7%
Howard Dean Approve: 84% Disapprove: 13% No Opinion: 3%
Harry Reid Approve: 87% Disapprove: 13%

You know the drill. Wesley Clark. Approve or Disapprove, or No opinion?

[onehandle]

1. Wow! Hillary is more popular with the average American...

...than with the average DUer.

A lotta folks here are going to be disappointed if on the off chance she runs and is nominated.

[Clark2008]

8. I'm leary of any MSM poll.

I think they're trying to, once again, pick our candidate for us.

[Totally Committed]

2. For the record,

I voted in this poll. Once.

TC

[Crunchy Frog]

3. I think it's pretty obvious from my sig line

that I approve of Wes Clark. And I want to register a post here as well as a vote.

[ClarkStalker]

4. I APPROVE of them all -- I love democrats

I do Approve of Clark most of all when naming a candidate for PREZ

[dhinojosa]

5. Lieberman?

just curious.

[ArkySue]

6. Lieberman is no Democrat!

He needs to go sit with Zell "Spitballs" Miller.

[LittleClarkie]

12. No, he is infinitely better than Zell Miller

At least Joementum didn't campaign for Bush. And if you move away from his war stance, he's actually fairly progressive.

Biden annoys me more, but I'm thinking of forgiving him too, based on his stellar performance at the Bolton meeting last week.

Zell, on the other hand, can kiss my grits. He is the epitome of Democrat In Name Only.

[dhinojosa]

7. I wonder if Dave Sund is going to do a Lieberman poll? nt

[Zhade]

24. That would be sad for the Lieberman supporters.

Both of them might start crying, and who wants to make lonely people cry?

[Zynx]

28. LMFAO!!

Good stuff.

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[Clark2008]

10. Why don't you stop wasting time and educate yourself?

Clark has been EVERYWHERE, but, because the corporate media is scared of him, they rarely report on him - but the PEOPLE know who he is and what he's doing and approve.
And, why does a former head of state need to run for senate or governor? I think managing the budget for several thousands of soldiers, their spouses and their children, meeting with other heads of state and testifying before Congress more than qualifies him for the job: even more so than a one-term senator.
And - I hardly think coming in first, second and third in nearly every state in which he competed meant "no one cared for him." More than likely, you're either here on some other mission OR you're paying too much attention to the poodle press in the mainstream.

Why don't you go over to http://www.securingamerica.com to see that Clark has been smacking down the neo-con Richard Perle in Congress, has been battling the neo-con David Frum on Bill Mahr's show, has been the guest speaker at many high-profile Dem events and in the Middle East and is the keynote speaker at a future ACLU event in Georgia before you said "what has he been doing lately." Obviously, you don't know.

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[windbreeze]

20. Clark

When you look at the Senators who had multiple years of experience in elected gov't positions..and LOST..then add to that, the sitting VP that lost...perhaps it's a good thing to not hold an elected office of some sort beforehand.....and thank god, he didn't help write the "Patriot Act"..or vote on it...maybe it's time for us to change our way of thinking...Clark has all the experience he needs...this Clark supporter only voted once in this poll...
Windbreeze

[Zynx]

27. Does that go for everyone, or just Clark?

I personally think private sector people would make better Presidents than career politicians - but I get a sense that most of the DU vibe on this is because of one guy - Clark.

[kevsand]

51. That's an interesting thought

and one that is frequently overlooked. There probably are a number of corporate executives who would make excellent presidents. The trick, I suspect, would be to find the ones who are 1) willing; 2) progressive; and 3) able to build a sufficient base so that it doesn't look like they're trying to buy the office.

[FrenchieCat]

33. Your requirements are yours, and not those found in the constitution

You may prefer that your candidates pass a lithmus test.....of being a politician practiced and true...prior to running for President, but it is not a requirement. So yes, it is too much to ask.

Kerry and Edwards had years of "democratically-elected" office experience between the two of them....and it didn't make a difference in the election outcome.

Eisenhower was elected to two terms as President without any prior elected experience.

And whether we live in a democracy is probably a better issue for you to pursue as opposed to "why I have decided to attack Wes Clark sporting my Edwards Avatar".

[ClarkUSA]

35. Being Supreme Allied Commander of Europe and head of NATO

is on par with being a head of state in diplomatic circles. Just ask some of the EU Heads of State with which Wes Clark is still on a first-name basis today.

In case you didn't know, we welcome all kinds in the Democratic Party, even lifelong independents who turn Democrat like General Wes Clark and even when they are not career DC or state politicians.

Experience in areas other than in state legislatures and DC is just fine with me.
Rising to the top position in the military required knowledge of the importance of leadership in consensus politics.

I for one am tired of lily-livered career pols and being stuck with the "weak on defense" label in this post-9/11 world where Americans want a strong leader who can "keep us safe." A four-star general with an economics degree from Oxford University who is also an outspoken and self-described liberal Democrat is not something that happens often in the Democratic Party. Eisenhower went with the GOP, unfortunately.

"It is not about the war in Iraq. It is not about the economy. It is really about the future of America and whether we are going to be a people that are pulled together by a common vision and a common humanity or whether we are going to be a nation pulled apart by divisive politics and an increasing gap between the wealthy and the poor, the haves and the have-nots and one party and another."

~ General Wesley K. Clark (Ret.), 11/19/03

[Clark2008]

37. Yes - because it's NOT a requirement of the presidency.

Personally, I think that it's time for a non-politician who isn't beholden to a bunch of corporations and special-interest groups to get our support. He/she would make a more fair president for the average citizen, for one thing.
I don't want Bilderberg or the Texas Oil Consortium or the media to pick my candidate, thank you very much.
If you honestly think folks are "democratically-elected" anymore, I suggest you visit the "2004 Elections and Results" section of DU for a closer inspection on exactly WHO is counting the votes.

[Pithy Cherub]

38. Everyone gets an opinion,

but not the right to alter the requirements laid out by the constitution. An election determines a tangible winner (electronic malfeasance not withstanding). It does not convey the intangibles of leadership moral courage or governing potential. Many have been elected and performed horridly - and the opposite is also true.

Clark was tested in something meaningful and enduring for the historical record. Clark enabled 19 nations (NATO) with varying political ideologies to agree to a military action in which not ONE American life was lost. That takes leadership and a profound courage to make a broken system work while being an American military commander. That is but one thing many of today's hopefuls are unable to speak to though elected to various political positions; foreign policy and successful security experience. That is where the game will be played in the 2006 and 2008 elections.

Welcome to DU and may your political knowledge increase with more posts.:)

[dhinojosa]

22. What happened to Blue?

Is blue a doberman?

[Clark2008]

Blue was a Lab/Hound mix.

He had a congenital disease that caused his esophagus to be about three times its normal size, resulting in his failure to keep down food. He would either throw it up or suck it down his windpipe. In short, he was dying of starvation and pneumonia. So I had to make the very hard decision to euthanize him to end his suffering.

Poor baby. :cry:

He wasn't even 4 years old, yet. :(

[dhinojosa]

36. Oh my, sorry for your loss.

I love my dogs so much, I dread for the day that they have to leave.

[FrenchieCat]

11. Hope this is not a "drive-by". Since I sincerely hope not,

Please answer the following to substantiate your accusations:

1. Please provide the military-Industrial complex, Clark has worked for.

2. Please provide cites inwhere Wes Clark has been Consulting for CNN....lately.

3. Please provide logic in how Clark is "afraid".

4. Please provide rational that "No one cared for him" in 2004, and that "No one will care for him" in 2008.

(edited to) Thank you for politely and factually replying to my query in advance.

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[Sparkly]

25. I'd be interested in any links you have showing that info

Thanks in advance.

[FrenchieCat]

29. We all have "theories",

It's just that when you accuse good Democrats, other Democrats want to see you substantiate your claims. Thus far, you have been long on accusations, short on actually providing substance for your "Theories".

One of my "Theories" is when a relatively newbie sporting the Avatar of one Good Democrat peppers a thread with unfounded accusations of another Good Democrat.....as you have done, it's done purposefully to smear one and, in essence, smear the other. It is a spych-Op technique that most of us are well aware of. That's my theory....and I am sticking to it.

You, my friend, are not fooling anyone but yourself and those that may want to be fooled.

Good day!

[Adelante]

30. Clinton's stalking horse in 2004

Yeah, I saw where Hillary ran for the nom in '04 after Wes paved the way for her. :crazy:

[LittleClarkie]

13. He and John Kerry teamed up for military families, for one thing

So proud of both of them.

Also, Wes has been giving speeches and working with his PAC. He is a tireless speaker against the Neocon agenda, and his hand was evident in some of Kerry's speeches during the campaign.

[ClarkUSA]

18. Did you just sign up here just to be a Clarkhater?

It's against DU rules to drop into threads just to be disruptive, which is all you have been doing here on this thread. You also sound awfully familiar. :hi:

Are we going to be treated to your presence on every DU Clark thread in the future? :woohoo:

But since you asked in such a classy and personable manner, I'd be happy to inform you:

Past Events:

1. Iraq Testimony before the House Armed Services Committee

Start:
April 6, 2005 - 12:00pm

Location:
Washington, DC
On Wednesday, April 6th at 10:00am ET, General Clark will be testifying before the House Armed Services Committee about Iraq's past, present, and future.
The hearing will be held in 2118 Rayburn House Office Building.
To listen to the hearing, and eventually to read the transcript, please visit the House Armed Services Committee website.


2. Announcement of GI Bill of Rights for the 21st Century

Start:
April 12, 2005 - 3:00pm

Location:
HC-5 of the U.S. Capitol
General Clark will be joining House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, Congressman Ike Skelton, and Congressman Lane Evans to announce the House Democrats' GI Bill of Rights for the 21st Century.


3. BookTV on C-SPAN2

Start:
March 26, 2005 - 3:30pm

Location:
C-SPAN2 (check your local listings)
The Turbulent Decade: Confronting the Refugee Crises of the 1990s
Sadako Ogata, Gen. Wesley Clark, Dana Priest
Saturday, March 26th at 3:30pm ET
From the John W. Kluge Center at the Library of Congress, a panel discussion was held on the world refugee situation during the 1990s. The panel was held in conjunction with the release of former United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees Sadako Ogata's new book, "The Turbulent Decade: Confronting the Refugee Crises of the 1990s."
With Ms. Ogata on the panel is former Nato Supreme Allied Commander of Europe Gen. Wesley Clark. Gen. Clark worked closely with Ms. Ogata when both were high-ranking officials during the crisis in Kosovo in the early 1990s. The discussants also address the current global climate and the potential for future refugees. The panel is moderated by Washington Post staff writer Dana Priest.
For more information, please visit the C-SPAN BookTV website.


4. "Path of a President" dinner event

Start:
April 4, 2005 - 7:00pm

Location:
Clinton Presidential Library, Little Rock, AR
It's one thing to just tour "political places." It's another to visit these sites and meet the people who helped make the destinations famous. That's what the new offering by Little Rock Tours, "The Path of a President," will include on its inaugural run, April 4 and 5.
"The Path of a President," which combines tourism and politics, will focus on Little Rock and Hot Springs National Park and include the major tourist attractions, the history, and Clinton sites in both communities. In addition, participants will have the opportunity to meet and listen to people who have made political headlines around the world.
On Monday, April 4th, as part of "The Path of a President," General Clark will speak at a dinner event at the Clinton Presidential Library and the Holiday Inn Presidential Center, along with Senator Dale Bumpers and Gene Lyons.
A limited number of seats are available for this event. Tickets are $75. The deadline to purchase your tickets is March 31.
Please call Cary Martin at Little Rock Tours at 501-868-7287 or 800-933-3836 for more information.


5. USIP trip to Haiti

Start:
March 14, 2005 - 10:00am

Location:
Haiti
United States Institute of Peace UN Task Force trip to Haiti on March 15th and 16th. For more information, visit http://www.usip.org/un/about.html.

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Upcoming Events

1. April 30th: White House Correspondents Dinner

Start:
April 30, 2005 - 6:30pm

Location:
Washington, DC
General Clark will be attending the 91st Annual White House Correspondents Dinner in DC. Traditionally, the dinner is a bi-partisan event held to honor and award distinguished reporting and journalism.


2. May 4th: Tribute to Liberators--Keynote Address

Start:
May 4, 2005 - 7:30pm

Location:
Washington, DC
General Clark will be delivering the Tribute to Liberators keynote address for the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC. This event is closed to the public.


3. May 6th: Germany and NATO: The Next 50 Years

Start:
May 6, 2005 - 11:00am

Location:
Washington, DC
General Clark will be a panelist for the Atlantic Council's Conference on "Germany and NATO: The Next 50 Years". General Clark and others will be discussing Germany's role in an evolving NATO.


4. May 7th: Lyon College Commencement

Start:
May 7, 2005 - 9:00am

Location:
Batesville, AR
General Clark will give the May 2005 Commencement Address at Lyon College and will also receive an honorary degree. Founded in 1872, Lyon College is the oldest independent college in Arkansas operating under its original charter.


5. May 14th: Associated Press Luncheon

Start:
May 14, 2005 - 12:00pm

Location:
Little Rock, AR
Details coming soon.


6. May 14th: Democratic Party of Arkansas 2005 Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinner

Start:
May 14, 2005 - 1:00pm

Location:
Little Rock, AR
General Clark will be attending the Democratic Party of Arkansas 2005 Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinner. Congressman Harold Ford, Jr. will be featured as the Kenote Speaker. For those interested in attending, pleast contact: Amy Wallace Cowan, [phone] or [e-mail].


7. May 15th: Ripon College Commissioning Ceremony

Start:
May 15, 2005 - 1:30pm

Location:
Ripon, WI
General Clark will speak at the ROTC Commissioning Ceremony at Ripon College to acknowledge the commissioning of new Second Lieutenants. He will also receive an honorary degree at the Ripon College May 2005 Commencement ceremony. Founded in 1851, Ripon College is a four-year, private, residential, liberal arts and sciences college.


8. May 18th: Chicago Council on Foreign Relations

Start:
May 18, 2005 - 12:00pm

Location:
Chicago, IL
Details coming soon.


9. May 21st: ACLU of Georgia Annual Bill of Rights Dinner

Start:
May 21, 2005 - 6:30pm

Location:
Atlanta, GA
General Clark will be the keynote speaker at the ACLU of Georgia Annual Bill of Rights Dinner. Mrs. Coretta Scott King and many others will be honored with an award for their work on civil liberties at this event. A limited number of tickets are still available through the ACLU of Georgia website.


10.May 28th: Cornell University Convocation

Start:
May 28, 2005 - 12:00pm

Location:
Ithaca, NY
General Clark will address Cornell University's Annual Convocation for graduating students on May 28th. Founded in 1865 by Ezra Cornell and Andrew Dickson White, Cornell is a privately endowed university and the first in the United States to offer degrees in Journalism and Veterinary Medicine.

Source: http://www.securingamerica.com/

Which candidate did you support during the primaries? What have they been doing lately? Let's compare notes. ;)

The more Democrats do as a team, the better. Divided we fall, which is not what Clark is about. What kind of attitude do you think your preferred candidate wants from you?

[Clark2008]

32. LOL.. thank you.

He's been doing a lot lately... considering he hasn't been on CNN at all "lately" (not since early 2003).

:)

[tishaLA]

19. I'm sorry you felt you needed to insult Clark that way

I try to be supportive of Democrats (with the notable exception of Zell) instead of using your strategy. But that's just me.

[Adelante]

21. Oh, welcome to DU!

:hi:

9 posts and you already know how to hide your profile?

I wonder if we've already met?

[dhinojosa]

26. LMAO...Democratic4Ever doesn't mean SameName4Ever....nt

[windbreeze]

23. Uh Huh

Clark wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, he has to work for a living....Have we gotten so far out of touch with reality, that we are reduced to criticizing a man who has to actually work?...
windbreeze

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[ken-in-seattle]

17. Oh you mean this defense contractor of bicycles, wavecrest

http://www.greenspeed.us/wesley_clark.htm


"I believe that the WaveCrest electric motor has a chance to be the propulsion system of choice for the twenty-first century."
- General Wesley Clark



Ok your turn, we know you burn and itch when you don't get the last smear in...

[FrenchieCat]

31. Moot?

How evident are you planning on being? Thus far, I see right through you.

[Texas_Kat]

34. Wishing and hoping, aren't you?

:rofl:

[cosmokramer]

43. Wanna bet? He's running--guaranteed.

[cyn2]

39. Wes is the best!

[Wizard777]

40. I have approved of Wes Clark

Since he went to waco to advise them that his participation in law enforcement would be a violation of Posse Comitatus. I agreed with him then and approve of him now.

[Clark2008]

41. That is the BEST and most SUCCINCT way I've every seen this

meme dealt with!

I'm copying your position: "Posse Comitatus" just SOUNDS like one knows what they're talking about in response to the wingers who think Clark dropped gas bombs on "poor ole" David Koresh and the child abusers at Waco.

[Wizard777]

42. I believed that too at first.

I now believe that the FBI did not use military grade flammable tear gas. I believe then Governor George Bush used his military connections to obtain spent canisters and had the Texas State Police plant them in their evidence locker. If he didn't do it himself.

[KittyWampus]

52. General Boykin (The Muslim Hater) Advised Feds On Waco.

And it was Bush's mistake to send the Feds to surround the compound when they could have EASILY picked Koresh up on the street somewheres.

[Wizard777]

60. The ever lovely Ann Richards (D) was Governor when the seige began.

But I do believe Poppa Bush did a repeat performance of his JFK act for the benefit of Baby Bush. Who Ironically used Waco to win the election. If it is true then technically Poppa Bush is partial responsible for Oklahoma. That's probably why they are now trying to do the revisionist history of the Ok bombing as an Al Qaida plot. It is a fact that Mc Veigh was a witness to Waco. In Mc Veigh's confession and limited public statements he said, "This is for the people of Waco." I'll gave to the check time line but I think Al Qaida was still working for us at that point in time.

BTW is boykin that nut that said God gave us Bush?

[Adelante]

44. I have a question for Dave Sund

The previous polls (I really am enjoying this series) all gave a role to be evaluated -- US Senator, DNC Chair, etc. This one doesn't say what voters are approving or disapproving. As a spokesman for the Party? As a former candidate? As a fundraiser? You get what I'm saying, right? Someone could approve of Wes as a party spokesman, yet not approve of him as a potential candidate. I guess I'm not sure what we're learning here. What do you think, Dave?

[Larry in KC]

46. Darn, WesDem posted the same idea while I was typing!

[Adelante]

47. Ooooh, spooky

:7

[Larry in KC]

59. I prefer to think of it as...

...a clear example of great minds thinking alike. You're one of several Clark supporters whose knowledgeable posts it's a pleasure for me to read, so I'm glad to be on the same page with you.

Nice website, too.

Clark 2008. Duty, honor, country.

[Dave Sund]

48. Yeah

I wasn't really sure what role to put him in, as he really doesn't have an official role to be evaluated in. So, in this case, I suppose it would have been better to say "Favorable" and "Unfavorable," but I think the end result would have been pretty much the same.

[Adelante]

50. I understand the difficulty

It's just that the results aren't *meaningful. In hindsight, "Democratic Party representative" maybe -- but you know what they say about hindsight. Thanks, Dave. :)

Edit: *I mean in relation to the other polls in the series

[Larry in KC]

45. I'm a little confused by the changed wording

In each other poll, you asked if we approved or disapproved of that person's performance in a particular office. But with Wes Clark, it's "You know the drill. Wesley Clark. Approve or Disapprove, or No opinion?"

It certainly matters. For example, my own general approval rating for John Kerry is quite a bit different from my approval rating of him as a senator.

Would you get the same answer if you asked "Do you approve of Wesley Clark's performance as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO"?

Oh, and like Wes, who answered honestly about his own private votes, I'll freely admit: I voted yes.

[Dave Sund]

49. Well

The main problem is that there isn't a role for me to put Clark in right now. His entire prominence in the party right now is based on his potential candidacy in 2008. Basically, the only thing I could ask for is a general approval rating.

[paineinthearse]

53. I voted "no opinion" because Gen. Clark has no politcal record

and I do not know enough of military matters to judge how effective he was as a general.

[Clark2008]

54. Well, do you approve of the job he's doing in standing up to

the neo-cons like Richard Perle and David Frum.
Do you approve of the job he's doing re-framing the debate and taking the word "Christian" back from the fundies?
Do you approve of his helping the House Dems write a bill that protects soldiers and their families?
Do you approve of his speaking before the Georgia ACLU regarding Constitutional issues?

I think that's what the poster was looking for. One doesn't need to be in politics to have a "record," so to speak.

[paineinthearse]

79. Quite right

Can I change my vote?

[Totally Committed]

55. He is the most highly decorated and honored General...

since Eisenhower.

TC

[lojasmo]

57. I agree.

I'd like to see him legislate or govern.

All of the other polls have been on political figures. I'm judging them by the same standards when I vote.

[Totally Committed]

63. Experience: SACEUR = Commander-In-Chief

Just this week, he visited Kazakhstan. He was received by the President of that country. Heads of State think he has enough experience to meet with him. He was a "chief negotiator" for the Dayton Peace Accords. He was Supreme Allied Commander (read: COMMANDER IN CHIEF) of NATO. I repeat -- Commander in Chief. There are may other qualifications he has that add up to "experience" as well, but here he gets no credit for them, either.

Legislate? They'll just use it against him. Govern? Why? He was Supreme Allied Commander of NATO(Commander-in-Chief) -- Technically, isn't that one of the titles the POTUS enjoys?

TC

[lojasmo]

65. I will support a candidate who has DONE THINGS that are appreciable.

So far, Clark has lots of good positions, but they're only that...words on paper.

I'll vote for him if he gets the nomination in 2008, but I won't work for a candidate in the primaries who hasn't enacted his positions while holding elected public office.

[Totally Committed]

70. Stopping the genocide of the Ethnic Albanians in Kosovo...

was nothing then? Running NATO was nothing?

This attitude disgusts me.

TC

[lojasmo]

89. I think clinton gets credit for Kosovo.

I don't care how you feel about my attitude. You are a partisan, I have not use for one-candidate partisans.

[ken-in-seattle]

58. so by that logic...

George Washington would have been a bad choice? DDE would have never had a chance?

I think if you read a bit you can piece together the difference in the three paths that can be taken to general staff rank.

The cowboy path runs through Texas and there are always some who devote their time to weeding out non cowboys/good old boys from advancement.

The Political path involves sucking up and loyalty tests that knock out any rational non partisan officers that get within their grasp.


And then their is the hard way. Where every assignment is completed in a way no one thought of before, where companies and bases that are written off as hopeless are brought to the top of efficiency ratings and moral. Where every assignment is completed in such spectacular fashion as to make it impossible for any commanding officer to use anything but unusual (even for the military) superlatives in every review or grade assessment. Some of the bases he commanded had populations (both military and dependent) higher than most medium sized cities. The Campaign in Kosavo involved getting the agreement of 19 different countries on every move and target.

He is also the only modern American General to have halted a genocide and forced the trial of a dictator without losing any soldiers, American or otherwise.

Contrast that with governor of Texas where the legislature only meets every two years and the office was long considered "ceremonial"

There are as many elected politicians as their are retired Generals that are not suitable for the job as commander in chief and President, but Clark is not one of them.

[RAF]

56. President Wes Clark 2008

:patriot: :kick:

[sharonking21]

61. I not only approve of Wes Clark,

I also prefer him above the others. There are several good men and women who are potential 2008 Democratic candidates that I would vote "Approve" for in the best of conscience, but Wes Clark holds first place among them and I hold him in the highest esteem.

[Clarkie1]

62. I don't disapprove of any of these Democrats.

I may agree with some of them more than others, or think some are more effective or better candidates than others, but I certainly do not "disapprove" of any of these people.

[wisteria]

64. I don't understand this poll..

What exactly has Wes Clark done lately that we are suppose to be voting on? Seriously, the results seem more like a popularity contest. What has he done other than given a couple of speeches and appeared on a talk show recently? Oh, and he unofficially announced his candidacy. He seems like a real nice guy, but how can you compare him to the group above and rate his efforts above theirs? This is ridiculous.

[arcos]

66. It IS a popularity contest...

I believe that is the point of this series of polls, and the results have been pretty interesting to me.

[wisteria]

67. No, that was not the point of the post.

If it is then this post is misleading and needs to be renamed and can't be taken seriously like it poll numbers in favor of Clark. 68 hits- many of then expressing other views and a positive poll rating of 177 votes yes. Can't the Clark supports expresss their approval of Clark in a posting?

[Clark2008]

68. We have - numerous times

No need to do it here, I wouldn't imagine.

[VOX]

69. This Edwards booster totally approves of Wes Clark!

I like the man, I like what he says, I like what he does. A *major* asset to the party. :thumbsup:

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[Sparkly]

72. How can you be an Edwards booster if you don't approve of Edwards?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1612609&mesg_id=1613105

[dogman]

73. Now there's a big surprise!

Whose avatar next?

[Adelante]

74. HAHAHA

Who says I don't know a sock when I see one? Good job, Sparkly!!

[incapsulated]

75. Buh-bye, now!

:hi:

[Sparkly]

77. Is it just me, or did it suddenly get reeeeeally quiet in here?

:shrug:

[Clark2008]

76. Bust-ted

:rofl:

[high density]

78. LOL, thank goodness for the ignore function

Too many people here at DU spend too much time trying to start flamewars.

[TorchTheWitch]

80. Good going Sparkly

Truly a thing of beauty!

[melnjones]

81. That's some mighty fine flip-flopping

especially in 20 posts total. Hmmm....

[FrenchieCat]

82. Like I said earlier in the thread.....

he wasn't fooling anyone.....except for those who didn't want to see.

Or maybe I've just got a six sense for......

[kevsand]

83. That's the part I can't figure out.

Twenty posts total. At least four of them in this thread, today. Five if that deleted one was also his/hers. The other post was over two months ago. This isn't adding up. Sure would like to see the profile to get a "Member since" date on this one. I'm assuming that names can't easily be recycled. Is there a chance that "they" have been laying up a store of identities for periodic, rotating use? Am I over-thinking this?

[Adelante]

84. Not overthinking

We're seeded with them here.

[Crunchy Frog]

86. Yes they do.

It's a very common practice. They're called "sock puppets".

[Clarkie1]

85. This is totally off-topic, but....nice cats!

How you do that KrazyKat?

[Phoebe_in_Sydney]

87. I approve

Of the way he's been exposing and smacking down the neocons, and giving the Democrats a profile on foreign policy and security.

I also approve of the fact that he was one of the few Dems during the election to keep questioning the Bush administration's handling of the threat from Al Qaeda prior to Sep 11. He was saying the admin knew more about it than they were letting on, long before the Sep 11 Commission and the admissions from Condiliar about the memo

And I approve of the way he's been working tirelessly for the Democrats. He barely drew breath after he pulled out of the Presidential race last year before hitting the road campaigning for Kerry. And he's already said he'll be active campaigning for Dems in 2006 elections.

I approve of the fact that he's proud to call himself a liberal and as a southern military man from a humble background he breaks down almost all the 'liberal' stereotypes and makes it possible for the whole concept of being liberal to be positively rebranded and reaccepted.

[bklyncowgirl]

88. What's not to like.

He's a very good spokesman on foreign policy and defense issues and worked hard for Kerry last year. I don't know whether he's my first choice for President but I certainly don't dislike the guy.

[davidinalameda]

90. I liked Wes in 2004 and I still like him

[carnie_sf]

91. The next president of the USA