It has to be Al Gore in 2008!

[Jackson4Gore]

Wow, after again hearing the big guy speak today; it is true. He is the voice of reason in our country. He not only touched on the judicial situation, but other things such as Iraq and Tom Delay. He would be our strongest candidate. We have been supporting Al in everything for the last three years and are going to work our butt off to see that he runs.

If you would like to join us, please go here: http://algore2008.net/

Here is our very active forum: http://s8.invisionfree.com/Al_Gore_Support

Thanks, Chris D. Jackson

[derby378]

1. With all due respect, that'll be a tough sell

Right now, feelings are pretty raw between the DLC/"New Democrat" folks and the grass-roots groundswell brought into the party by Howard Dean. Gore may have to do some serious outreach to the latter to secure a reasonable chance at the 2008 nomination.

Not that I don't feel for him, though - he won in 2000, y'know.

[Jackson4Gore]

5. Howard Dean is Al Gore

Al Gore was the one who first spoke out against the Bush administration and then followed Dean. Dean said so himself. Gore also endorsed Dean. Anyone who cannot support this man in my opinion doesn't have a conscience, especially if you are a democrat.

[derby378]

10. What Gore must do to clinch the nomination, IMHO

1. Strengthen his pro-environment platform
2. Lay out an easy-to-understand plan for saving Social Security
3. Resurrect Clinton's push towards universal health care
4. Huge tax breaks for those who buy hybrid or alt-fuel vehicles
5. Ditch any talk of reauthorizing the assault weapon ban
6. Roll back all of Bush 43's "tax cuts"
7. Most importantly of all - RELAX - Gore still tends to be stiff at times

But that's just me. Even though I do have some issues with Gore, I'm glad to see you guys energized for him so early in the game. That's a big help.

[Jackson4Gore]

15. Ok

1. Really, I don't see how he could get anymore green. He is the most green public official in America. Heck, he even wrote a best seller on the issue.

2. He had an easy to understand SS plan back in 2000, but it was ridiculed.

3. He proposed a universal single payer healthcare system back in 2002.

4. Gore was a sponsor for alternative fuel and effiecient vehicles.

5. Gore stands on principle; one of the those is gun control.

6. He has said he would do that.

7. That is just another right wing lie. He is not stiff or boring. I know the guy and know this personally. Just watch his speeches and judge for yourself.

[derby378]

23. Further reflections

1. After *'s infliction of ANWAR, increased levels of mercury and arsenic in our environment, and other environmental horrors upon America, Gore will have to go on the warpath. He must, must, must hammer home the environment - and keep the message simple.

2-3. OK, you got me there.

4. Iceland has a hydrogen fuel station operated by Shell. Iceland. Where's ours? Tweaking the tax code will help a lot.

5. I support gun control, not gun confiscation. It neither breaks your back nor picks your pocket if I own an AK-47. (I don't, BTW.) If Gore wants to turn red states blue, he may have no choice but to drop the AWB.

6. Good to hear that. I would only amend that to preserve tax cuts that actually benefitted lower-middle-class Americans, since everyone poorer got royally screwed and everyone richer made out like pirates on the high seas.

7. I've seen his speeches, too. I stand by my statement. If he wants to represent us, sometimes he needs to hone his message down to "bumper-sticker" level and not go MENSA on everyone. I appreciate smart politicians more than you'll ever know - but remember the audience any candidate must play to.

[Idylle Moon Dancer]

34. Geothermal

that's the main reason for Iceland's hydrogen fuel station.
They use geothermal energy to isolate and contain the hydrogen.
I think hydrogen fuel cells are a bit of a red herring in that
respect; that you need energy from somewhere else in order to
harness the hydrogen.

[derby378]

28. Almost forgot - check this poll

I was completely surprised by the results so far:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1742804

[sandnsea]

40. Some people

Really have no frickin' clue what the hell they're talking about. Anybody who would pretend to lecture AL GORE on Democratic policy is an idiot. And I'm not even a huge Al Gore fan, although I'd be delighted to campaign for him if he were to win the nomination. He's great on policy. He's a great Democrat.

Really, liberal Al Gore somehow has to change to gain support from the grassroots behind the centrist Dean. :crazy:

[erpowers]

73. My Thoughts

I contend that Gore does not have to strengthen his platform on the environment; he just has to talk about it. It seems that Gore followed some bad advice in the first Presidential election by not talking about the environment that much. I heard that he was told not to talk about the environment during the 2000 election. I do not think talk of bring back the AWB would hurt Gore. I do not think that cost him very many votes. I contend that Gore lost more votes because of his choice of VP than the AWB. Finally, I do not think he needs to relax; he is okay. Once agains I do not think many people cared about his stiffness.

[LittleClarkie]

12. Help! I have a Gore stuck in my throat!

The hard sell isn't always the best way to go. It has a tendancy to turn folks off.

[dweller]

2. . . .

NGU






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[libodem]

3. He is the one.

Nobody else comes close.

[ObaMania]

4. I could see it...

.. Gore/Kerry '08

or maybe Gore/Edwards?

I just think that in '08 the GOP will have some loser-ass Dole type and the country will be so sick of all the shit they've pulled over the past 8 years that they'll be ready for something new!

[derby378]

8. Or maybe Gore/Dean '08

Dean won't run for President in 2008, but VP...???

All he needs is a worthy successor to run the DNC, and he's there.

And Gore will mow down Bill Frist in the election like a combine in a wheat field.

[Clark2008]

14. No Edwards - PLEASE! n/t

[pstans]

6. I think it is a possibility

Gore is a strong environmentalist and has been there before. With Peak Oil coming America will be searching for new direction. Gore has the experience to get the backing from people and the environmental background to led the nation to energy independence.

Gore-Feingold in 08 or what about Gore-Obama in 08 :patriot:

[Gloria]

7. Just commented to a friend that "Gee, wish Gore would run! after all,

2008 is a long way from 2000 and he would actually be breath of fresh air rather than old news.

Damn.

[Roland99]

9. He can work behind the scenes. The Democrats need new blood.

[Jackson4Gore]

11. I think we saw how the fresh faces did the last election

[LittleClarkie]

13. Yep, did pretty well, actually

Came damn close to beating an incumbent president during wartime.

[Jackson4Gore]

16. Too bad close doesn't count

[LittleClarkie]

21. Gore knows that as well as anyone

I'm afraid.

[tritsofme]

17. Kerry was a fresh face?

He's been involved in national politics for over 20 years.

What we need is a Southern or Western governor, someone from outside of the Beltway.

By not running in 2004 he left most of his natural base of support to go to other candidates.

[Roland99]

19. Kerry's not a fresh face and Edwards is too used-car-salesman-y

I still don't know why Dean gave in to the MSM "scream" pressure so quickly. I still think something was going on behind the scenes...deep behind.

Remember, Kerry wasn't going to do much different than the Propagandist is now in Iraq and was likely going to send even more troops over. Now, don't get me wrong. I'd have LOVED to have seen Kerry win but not much would have changed in certain aspects. And, being at odds with the Congress would have hurt, too.


I'd still like to see Dean run but I think he's doing a great job at the DNC. The DLC will be a distant memory soon. Clark looks strong but he needs to beef up his economic and health care platforms. Foreign policy and security alone won't win it for the Dems.

Perhaps Richardson would make a good running mate?

[LittleClarkie]

25. Edwards does have that huckster thing going sometimes

He needs to work on his delivery. When he gave his goodbye speech in the Senate, I could hear him click into, then back out of, a more sincere tone.

He was more sincere when he praised Kerry, saying what a good friend and patriot he was. Then his voice changed again and the huckster was back.

It might be his lawyer voice. It also might show his inexperience. I think Elizabeth is actually the better speaker of the two.

[Roland99]

26. It was the Vice Presidential debate that soured me on Edwards

I was actually hoping he'd get the nod for the nomination before he bowed out and was picked as mate by Kerry.

But, that VP debate, Edwards just looked and sounded....slimey. Something too arrogant and cheesy in him.

[LittleClarkie]

29. I know. And yet, two times he's made me cry

The first was seeing a picture of him standing next to his son.

The second was that speech in the Senate.

I think it's just a veneer that he needs to scrub off. There's a good man underneath that's being camoflaged by his manner.

[Eliot Spitzer 2006]

64. Edwards sounds like a Electrolux salesman

That "Awww Shucks" shit makes me want to gag. I prefer strong, articulate types that speak directly and don't make me feel like I am being sold something. Edwards seems to have an inability to say anything that he thinks you may not want to hear.

[ms liberty]

18. I love Al

He's already been Roved, he's been consistent in his views since Dufus was his opponent, he won the '00 election and exited gracefully in order to save the country. And he accepted the will of an activist judiciary!! He's been correct in his assesments of this disasterous presidency, and the things he said (during the campaign in '00) would happen if Dufus was elected - mostly - have been right (i.e. Social Security). At this point his only real competition is Biden from what I'm seeing. But it's early days yet... when he decided not to run, and Kerry became the nominee I was OK with it but not fired up. Then I fell for Kerry when I heard his speech at the convention. I thought it was a brilliant speech. But Kerry's not been lighting up the room since the election. I'd really like to see Al be the nominee for '08. I'm high on Biden, but he's still in the Senate and his record would be picked apart and distorted by the Repukes. We need him to stay in the Senate. Also there's that corporate friendliness position his state has. That could be a potential trouble spot. How about Al for Prez and Biden for Supreme Court?

[AlGore-08.com]

20. Transcript of Gore's 4/27 speech is available

http://www.algore-08.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=224&Itemid=123

I'd urge everybody who thinks Gore is "too (fill in the blank)" for their taste read this and his other speeches.

[Guaranteed]

37. Brilliant.

Perfect speech.

Nominate him. He's been the truest leader in these past couple of years.

[racaulk]

22. Gore/Clinton '08???

Call me crazy, but does anyone else think that Hillary would make a good running mate for Al in 2008? She has a lot of money and political clout, and both Al and Hillary are from the south (Tennessee and Arkansas).

Or maybe another Clinton/Gore ticket could sell. Has anyone even been VP for 16 years? :shrug:

[Deaniac20]

30. no hillary

she would not make a good running mate. People will say "remember in Al Gore's administration how his running mate had that bad healthcare plan?" I think he needs Big Dawg touring for him, but no Hillary.

[stlsaxman]

42. Gore needs to separate himself from the Clintons if he is to even have

a prayer- Hillary is as tainted as Martha Stewart (meme- "She's a bitch"). Unfortunately the label has stuck. She is a great senator, as is Kerry...

Gore has long proved that he stands as "his own man".

On the argument he is "too stiff"- he's not stiff, he just has A SPINE! heheheh

no, you're not crazy.... ;)

[ginnyinWI]

24. I'll go with it if the ticket is Gore/Kerry!

They were both cheated out of presidential victories--it's only fair! :) ;)

[politicasista]

32. I will definitely support that ticket

Gore was done wrong here in TN four years ago. (Yes, Blinky stole TN). I wish he would have picked Kerry as his running mate four years ago.

[ginnyinWI]

33. sigh. me, too, sista, me too!

I bet Gore would have gotten more votes, and everything would have changed. Kerry was on a short list of three for Veep! Argh!!

[lojasmo]

39. Me too, but I'd rather not see Kerry, edwards, clinton....

Or anybody else who helped facillitate the IWR.

[Clark2008]

49. How did blivet steal Tennessee?

I'm in Tennessee - granted I'm on the conservative side of the state (the East) - and I saw Shrubbie winning the state coming in 2000. The word-of-mouth memes that spread about Gore "wanting to take away our guns," his being a "tree-hugging whacko" and being connected with that "scandalous" Clinton Administration were all over the place.
I don't think blivet "stole" the state, but I do agree that Gore was "done wrong."
Gore wasn't portrayed fairly by his fellow Tennesseans who are part of the VRWC, but I don't think Bush "stole" the state.

[bunny planet]

47. Agree, perfect revenge ticket!!!!!!!!!!!

[erpowers]

71. Should Have Been First Ticket

Kerry is the person Gore should have chosen as his VP running mate the first time. I think that would have put him over the top no matter what happened in Flordia.

[kodi]

27. Al Gore has my full support if he runs.

he has the best of what i want in a president.

all this stuff about him being old news and a mark for the VRWC is posh. by the fall of 2007 this country will be in such a mess that anyone who warned about it happening like gore has will be considered a genius and the guy to dig us out of the mess bush made.

all the right wing pundits and porcine lipstick in the world won't be able to hide our economic problems in two years.

[Jamastiene]

31. Agreed

Voted for him 3 times, two of those indirectly, but happily since his change after his son was almost killed. He's seen the light and doesn't intend to back down. He promised us he'd fight for us as president and even though he didn't become president, he took Bush to court to fight the shenanigans in Florida (those votes are still in the trash as far as I know). He's got my vote if he runs.

[Guaranteed]

35. I agree.

I think he's our best shot.

[magellan]

36. I'm on board with Gore in '08

That victory would be SO sweet! :thumbsup:

[jfern]

38. Vote in a highly watched Gore vs. Clark poll here

http://www.calculusman.com/DemBracket/currentpoll.shtml

[Crunchy Frog]

52. Thanks for pointing that out. Just voted in it.

[Q]

41. For every Democrat...you'll get a different opinion...

...about who should run in 2008. Some want a 'Southerner'. Some want someone that will pretend we're not the most gun violent nation in the world and stay away from gun control issues. Others will say we need a 'fresh face' or an environmentalist.

But Gore actually WON despite ALL of the obstacles thrown at him by the Right and their corporate media. Keep in mind that Gore's campaign suffered greatly because of the impeachment and the self-serving advice of Clinton's DLC. And we shouldn't forget how his traitorous VP candidate went around contradicting him on issues of corporate accountability and actually encouraged him to concede before it was necessary.

Gore won because he ran a populist campaign. Kerry lost because he didn't.

Democrats have a formula for winning in Gore. But there are so many factions in the party that won't come together behind the one candidate that has the best chance of winning.

[The Animator]

43. I actually up for something new... Maher/Stewart 08'

cause comedians can see right through all the bullshit, and call people on it.

Trey Parker and Matt Stone take turns as Press Secretary. (the most important messages will be conveyed by the characters of South Park.)

Appoint George Carlin to head the FCC.

Howard Stern to lead NPR.

Put Robin Williams in charge of PBS.

Tommy Chong to head the DEA.

I know he's not an American citizen, but draft Eddy Izzard to be our U.N. Embassador.

Chris Rock as Secretary of State.

Ellen DeGeneres, and Janine Garafolo appointed to Supreme Court.

Dave Chapelle to lead Justice Dept.

[seaglass]

44. I like Al Gore, I voted for Al Gore, I know Al Gore won but he

is done in Presidential politics. Sorry.

And by the way, I was a strong Kerry supporter - way before the first primary was held, but I'm not sure that I want him to be the nominee either.

Maybe it's just a thing I have about reliving painful experiences.:(

[NewJeffCT]

72. Nixon came back after losing in 1960.

He was VP under a popular moderate in Eisenhower and lost a nailbiter to JFK in 1960 where there was ample evidence of fraud.

Gore was VP under a popular moderate in Clinton and lost a nailbiter to Bush in 2000 where there was ample evidence of fraud.

Gore was portrayed as stiff and didn't come across well on TV in his 2000 campaign... Nixon lost because he came across as stiff & sweaty in his televised debates with JFK.

Lot of similarities.

[ktowntennesseedem]

45. 2008 still too far off IMO to be naming the nominee, but...

whoever it ends up being, this much I am sure of at this early stage. We WILL select someone like that, or more to be more specific, someone who is talking that way, or we may as well edit the Constitution and give W a third term by acclamation. We need EVERY Dem to speak out the way Al is if we are going to turn this thing around. If we will all do that, I'm content to wait to let someone emerge as a front-runner.

In the meantime, WAY TA' GO, AL!!!!


:yourock:

[dragonkeep]

46. I have been impressed with the speeches he has given...

in the last 2 years. They are dead-on, passionate, patriotic. He sees and conveys clearly the problems facing us. If he runs again, he needs to run his own campaign. The 2000 campaign was badly done, the handlers kept trying to make him something he is not and it didn't serve him well. I believe if the American people could see him as he is, he could actually make the White House this time.

[Apollo11]

48. It's gotta be Gore in 2008!

That was one awesome speech yesterday!

You can find the transcript of yesterday's speech, plus lots more Gore-related info on these sites:
www.algore-08.com
http://algore2008.net

Gore has the intelligence, the experience and the charisma to make a great President. Would already be in the 5th year of his Presidency were it not for the shenanigans of Katherine Harris, Jeb Bush, and 5 right-wing judges on the Supreme Court.

Gore is a serious politician who sees issues from all sides (like Kerry), but can also make clear decisions (like W). He is an intelligent progressive with strong moderate credentials, which means he can appeal to both liberals and centrists.

With Dean running the DNC, Gore has a good shot at making a comeback. We should be getting ready to give him our support.

You can start by voting in the Championship matchup on this site:
http://www.calculusman.com/DemBracket/

[Larkspur]

50. I'd have no problem supporting Al Gore in '08. Gore/Dean '08!!

Gore has done a great service to the Dem Party and this nation by these speeches has has given, but I don't get the sense from him that he is planning on running for Prez. Compared to the current prospects thinking of running or planning on running, the only one I'd support for Prez besides Al Gore would be Russ Feingold.

[Zynx]

51. Hell no. He couldn't win in 2000 with the Clinton economy

Nevermind Florida, a decent candidate would have whipped Bush by 7 points nationally.

[Q]

56. Gore DID win in 2000...

Why do so many Democrats insist that Gore didn't win? Why don't you blame those who cheated in 2000 for Gore not being in the White House?

Is it any wonder that the Bushies are able to get away with election fraud when too many Democrats won't place the blame where it belongs?

Gore is the ONLY high-profile Democrat consistently speaking out against the Bush regime and demanding accountability for government and corporations.

It's too bad that the Party Machine threw him away when he went populist.

[Zynx]

57. With that economy and Bush, it shouldn't have been a 500 vote issue

Gore should have won A LOT more states and made that whole thing moot. Historically and politically, one would expect an outright landslide. OH, NH, WV, MO, AK, TN for that matter, all of those could have and should have been won by Gore handily.

Gore didn't do this, and that has nothing to do with crooked Jeb in Florida.

[Larkspur]

61. You forgot Bill's sexcapades helped form a dark cloud over Clinton's

Admin and it extended over Gore's campaign.

While you may not care about Clinton's sex affair, a lot of Americans did.

Considering that Gore was 15-20 pts behind Bush when Gore announced his Prez bid in March 1999, Al did a great job coming from way behind to win the popular vote. If SCOTUS had not interfered with the Florida recount, Al would have been in the WH.

[Imagevision]

53. Gore? -- surely you jest, like it or not-Hillary is next in line

Bill is already laying on the ground work.

[Imagevision]

54. Gore caved to Bush but not as bad as Kerry did>"count every vote!

[Zynx]

55. Screw Hillary, and in this case, screw Bill

Hillary is NOT Bill. I don't want to have whatever religious psychopath the Republicans run in 2008 win.

[barbaraann]

58. Gore/Clark 2008

Sounds good to me!

[Brianboru]

59. That's the ticket!

Gore got more votes than Bush in 2000. The economy will be the issue. People will look back to the 90s with dreams of low deficits and high 401ks. It's the economy, stupid!

[realFedUp]

60. I wouldn't mind that refighting that one....nt

[AntiCoup2K4]

62. Gotta admit it would be interesting, in a Nixon 1968 sense

Nixon believed the 1960 election was "stolen" from him, and came back 8 years later. A Gore victory would be poetic justice in that respect.

And he's given some damn powerful speeches the last few years. Also he has the executive branch experience needed to win an election (He DID win one already)

Strong positives. Along with being in the unique position of being able to say "is this country better off than it was 8 years ago?" to the voters, being both the #2 guy in the administration that left the country in great shape, AND the rightful successor.

Gore's biggest liability is that the right wing media already have their scripts written to use against him. All the "wooden" "I invented the internet" "gun confiscation" bullshit, and you know they'll use it. The Al Gore of the last few years seems like he would fight back against this kind of shit. I hope that's the case, should he decide to jump in.

[Eliot Spitzer 2006]

63. Nixon was not very likeable either

but he managed a comeback. I think Gore could do it - experienced, passionate, knowledgeable - these are all strong traits which Kerry lacked.

[WildEyedLiberal]

65. Kerry not experienced?

You ARE kidding, right?

Not knowledgeable? Again, you must be joking.

And you clearly never saw him in person if you didn't think he was passionate. Don't let the MSM tell you he's "aloof" - don't you remember they did that to Gore too?

I like Gore a lot, but please be fair - Kerry was NOT inexperienced (40 years of public service), unknowledgeable, or dispassionate. Far from it.

[LittleClarkie]

66. Go and visit the Daily Howler

They have some good stuff about what was done to Al Gore in the 2000 election. And they also have some good stuff that debunks what people THINK they know about John Kerry as well.

Sadly, you don't know who our former candidate was if you don't think he was experienced, passionate and knowledgeable.

Either man would be a fine president. Both men possess the traits you describe. Both rediscovered that passion esp. after their losses to Bush, ironically enough. And both will have to overcome what the media has done to their image.

[FrenchieCat]

67. By the way...where is the Al Gore Progressive Television network

I've been holding my breath for? When will it get here? 2006 is right around the corner...and I don't know if a network in it's infancy will really get the job that we need done in the media. The

media is a very important facet of our Democracy....and I'm still waiting.

[SouthernDem2004]

69. There is not going to be one and never was.

http://news.com.com/2100-1047_3-5653913.html

Its a purely commercial venture. Sounds interesting though.

[laylah]

68. I have avoided all threads

re: 2008 because, imvho, we have more important things to do in the meantime, as in prepare for 2006. That said, while watching Al speak, it popped into my mind how wonderful a Gore/Edwards ticket would be! Now THAT'S a ticket I could get on board for!

Jenn

[erpowers]

70. Gore/Feingold Or Feingold/Gore

I would like to see some type of Gore/Feingold or Feingold/Gore ticket. I know that Feingold is getting divorced, but I think he can recover. I think either one of those tickets would be a winning one.