Was he wired? @23:30

[remfan]

My BIL spotted something while watching a replay --- at about 23:30 (C-Span's video) into it, Suzanne Malveaux asks a question, and * begins an answer, then pauses, looks as if he's listening to something, mutters "wait a minute", and then continues with an answer. Watching it just now I can see exactly what my BIL was talking about, though I didn't notice it last night.

Check it out...and kick this if you're so inclined.

[Last Lemming]

1. Do you have a link?

and an approx time that this question was asked?

[illuminaughty]

2. hell, yeah!

I noticed three separate incidents that were above bizarre. The press have to be saying "WTF?". He lowers his head and talks into his tie, he has obvious moments when he is waiting for a response.
He said "Syria" at one point and corrected it to "Lebanon" about 20 seconds later. His eyes always give it away when he's getting prompted.

Why this isn't obvious that he's wired or "wired" or just plain nuts is beyond me. I can't imagine being the press and keeping a straight face.

[Stinky The Clown]

30. "Why this isn't obvious that he's wired or "wired" or just plain nuts"

It *is* obvious. People *do* notice it. People *do* think he's wired.

People say this. The press, however, does not.

Ergo ... he's not really wired and you're asking us to believe *your* lying eyes?

We saw it too, and yeah ... he's got a wireless ear bud. Not one fucking shred of doubt in my mind.

[AuntiBush]

50. Everyone says & knows it!

Everyone I know! We seen it during the debates and every time he tries to speak for C* and R*!

Did anyone notice the crowd to the front side (just in perfect visible view to all) not asking questions... I mean, wondering who the Gaff and Production folks are.

[kris10ep]

3. Ok, I just watched it...

and he has got to be wearing a wire. That was just a little bit too obvious.

[madinmaryland]

4. Well, he's either wired or

he's just scripted everything that he is going to say. He never seems to deviate from what his talking points are.

[bandy]

5. Hubby & I watched in different rooms...

after it was over hubby asked if I thought he was wired. I said probably, why? He said at one point Bush hesitated, turned his head and leaned forward, and hubby heard someone talking in the background. I missed this due to multitasking at the time. Anybody else notice this?

[Sparkly]

28. YES!

Several of us discussed this last night. I heard a sound like a voice over a radio. On the repeat, I didn't hear it though. But watching the live event, I jumped off the sofa and shouted -- it was sooo obvious.

[spinbaby]

6. Link

http://www.c-span.org/

It's top and center under "Recent Programs."

[tinrobot]

14. Do I have to watch the whole thing?

I might throw up.

Does someone have just the snip in question?

[kainah]

18. don't know of a snip

I have no idea how to do that and wish that someone would. But it happens at 23:30 into the press conference. So, after it loads, you should be able to advance it to around that point and catch it. As soon as you see Suzanne Malveaux in her pink suit finish her question, START WATCHING. (And, if memory serves, Malveaux is the only woman he called on.)

[tinrobot]

20. Thanks

(eom)

[kainah]

26. short video clip

nothing without hope posts this short clip link further down in the thread....

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/04/29.html#a2693

[OneTwentyoNine]

91. What the FFFFFFFFF?!?!?!?!? Keep this BUMPED,Geezzzzz...nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. GREAT catch --- kick kick kick. He is Nailed !!!

[kainah]

29. on behalf of my husband

thank you! He's the one who noticed it last night. I emailed my sister (remfan) late last night so she could post this AM. I knew I couldn't get to it until tonight.

We really do need to get this noticed so that it becomes part of the continuing saga of his being coached. At the very least, he has to know that he's being watched this closely.

Another issue: is it possible that the reason why he won't let non-cult members into his public events is because they need to hide this behind-the-scenes string-pulling?

Anyway, keep it kicked! And recommend. And pass the crooksandliars link around.

[FreedomAngel82]

38. Thanks for the video

I still think the town hall debate was a set up for him. :shrug: I just question it still personally. I think he uses ear feedings in everything if he can't be scripted.

[mtnester]

7. Listen, right before CBS and NBC cut away, the very instant before

he said OUTLOUD:

"Okay"

Then the cut away to to regularly scheduled network programming.

You tell me, who the heck was he talking to ...God?

I am sure he was told in his ear "the networks cut away" or something like that

[bleever]

35. Link for this? Thanks.

People make a living out of knowing these nonverbal indicators.

Good catch.

[mtnester]

90. I do not have a link, it is what I heard while was watching it on two TV's

CNN on one, CBS on the other....he had finished answering the last question posed to him, it was abouit 8:58 pm EST, he looked confused for a second or two, said "Okay" out loud, and then the major network (CBS) cut away abrubtly, while CNN kept on going. He did not say "Okay" in response to anything posed to his within eye range.

[smurfygirl]

8. yeah, I noticed this last night

he is definately getting answers in his ear.

But once again we see he can't refrain from being himself when after this answer makes the stupid comment that he doesn't see why Iran needs nuclear cause they have all the oil.

Boy, you can really tell how he thinks when he says that. Now the Iranians have a nice clip to play over and over to their people to really piss them off.

Good going shrub, you did it again.

[grumpy old fart]

9. If he's wired, it's not helping him much...dude just stumbles all the time

and looks like a complete buffoon, except to his loyal followers. They always just seem to see Captain America, while the rest of the reality based viewers see Jughead.

[AlCzervik]

10. he was feed answers by someone dumber than him then

let him always be wired.

[kainah]

11. kick this up!

This is an incredibly obvious moment. It's right after Suzanne Malveaux asks her question. If you don't believe, check out the tape of the press conference on C-SPAN, at 23:30 into the press conference. And then, at the end, it appears he was also told that the networks had cut away. My sister and I were IMing and she said, "the networks cut away" and immediately after that, he made his comment about the networks cutting away.

The man was wired!

Keep this bumped up.

Get the word out.

[DearAbby]

12. Well the answers were of a complete idiot...what does that make the

buffoon wearing the wire, that has to rely on it for responses to the questions??? It's obvious that he has been using this technique for quite awhile. The first Debate it was obvious.

Too bad there is no way to inhance the audio to pick up the responses going into *'s ear, to see who the voice belongs too...can't be God. :shrug:

[NiteOwll]

43. What especially clinches it for me..

was the way he pauses, and then sort of half yells the word "Democracy" in his answer to her question. It was very obvious that he was repeating what he had just heard...

[LizW]

44. Strange word emphasis

Jon Stewart was talking about this last night. Bush is so proud of getting the right words that he YELLS them. It's hilarious.

"I had a long talk with VLADIMIR! in SLOVAKIA!"

And he looks so stupidly smug when he gets the answers out. It's just freaking ridiculous.

[siliconefreak]

53. It's as if...

he's just so proud that he was able to pronounce the word correctly, he's waiting for the reporters to start applauding.

[kainah]

55. I'm waiting for Stewart on Monday

to get on his pronunciation of CHINA. About halfway through the press conference, he suddenly blurts that out in the cowboy accent that Stewart imitates SO WELL.

[nashville_brook]

71. this is all i can focus on anymore

it's like a kid using vocabulary words.

can't wait till he has to use vis å vis in a sentence.

[rocktivity]

13. I don't think he's wired. I think he'd wireLESSed.

I think he's got something implanted in his ear by now.

:headbang:
rocknation

[rodeodance]

16. i will nominate this thread

[nashville_brook]

72. it's his Symbiant

[jayctravis]

96. I'm convinced it's directed sound.

Apparently there's a new technology where they can direct a beam of sound at a small location. There was a post here once where someone was worried it would be used for "mind control" or something.

I think they're broadcasting at his head. His mental bandwidth is so low that he gets flustered and responds to it.

[Nothing Without Hope]

15. SHORT VIDEO CLIP at the Crooks & Liars site sure makes it look that way

Windows media and Quicktime formats, Permalink is HERE:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/04/29.html#a2693

Right after the woman asks her question about Putin, watch Bush pause and clearly redirect his thoughts. He was wired all right. He was still a FOOL.

[Robb]

17. Pretty convincing

...It's that pause and looking down thing. Same thing someone does when they're on the phone and talking to someone in the room, and the person on the other end starts talking to them again.

:tinfoilhat:

[kainah]

24. Yes!

that's exactly what it is like! I tried to explain before what it was and couldn't find the words. It's one of those things that, when you watch it, you immediately recognize it as behavior of listening to someone else. It's very human behavior. (Ohmigod, did I just call * human???)

[BrklynLiberal]

19. The guy IS wired...

[Ninga]

21. kicked

[Catherine Vincent]

32. That is pretty damning and why the MSM won't investigate this is

beyond me.

[Nothing Without Hope]

34. It's not really ILLEGAL - the founding fathers didn't take into

consideration that the chief executive would be so stupid and so slavishly attuned to his advisors that they would have to expressly forbid it. Besides, it would have been easier to detect in their day!

Now where it was definitely against the rules was in the presidential-candidate debates, and Kerry demolished him there anyway.

Amazing how much damage control can be done by having kool-aid dispensing talking heads to cover up for the imbecile's inadequacies. I wonder how long that can keep going on?

[acmejack]

62. 1360 Days, 16 Hours, and 56 minutes!

NT

[Sparkly]

64. Agreed re: the debates, and it also indicates what a cheating liar he is.

That's why I wish the MSM would discuss it.

[valis]

70. Of course it's not illegal. If he can consult advisors BEFORE the speech

he can consult them during the speech as well... No difference there....

[Evergreen Emerald]

73. The issue is not legality

The issue is that the president of the United States is an incompetent LIAR who pretends to be someone he is not. And is so INEPT he can't even answer a question. Who is running the country? Certainly not this man who needs a wire to tell him who runs Russia.

[valis]

76. Agreed with that...

[Nothing Without Hope]

78. Well said - yes, I agree. He's a fraud and a liar who is so incompetent

that he can't even be convincing when he is secretly fed answers like someone cheating on an exam.

[OneTwentyoNine]

93. This much longer.Chimp countdown clock right here......

http://www.eskimo.com/~tla/TimetoNoW.htm

[VOX]

60. If not wired, he's blanking out! "Yeah, we have uh, in a broader sense..."

"Lemme just...in a broader sense..." Either he's listening to someone feed him cues, or his mind is going completely blank. Either way, it's not good! :grr:

[Roland99]

95. He did pause a long time but he said "but in a broader sense"

he was repeating the last few words he'd said.

[Scout1071]

22. Wow. I think that is pretty powerful (further) evidence.

[yorkiemommie1]

23. kickety kick

[Hosnon]

25. "Kind of in a..."

That is what he mumbles. The first few words of:

Kind of in a broader sense.

The guys over at Crooks and Liars are just hearing what they want to hear.

May be wired, definitely is a dumbass, but that's what he mumbles.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

77. Absolutely wired and he says, no, mumbles

"in a minute . . ."
I took it to to be a reflexive whispered response to the voice in the ear. Of course this will never be covered - if they could ignore the giant hulking box on his back in the debates, then this newer, more discreet device will never make the cut.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

31. Give me a break...Of course he's wired...

do you really think he can put the words "government" or "judicial" in a sentence all by himself?

[tuvor]

33. I guess you see what you want to see.

I just see a guy who can't get his thoughts in order before speaking.

Having said that, he has a lot of 'splaining to do about the lump during the debates last year.

[bleever]

36. And at the end, he turned around, and walked away from the cameras,

and you could see, if you looked closely, that the suit had been tailored to make sure there was a visible lateral wrinkle where the hardware used to be.

A simple wrinkle.

Bwahahahahahahah!

In poker, they call that a "tell", I do believe.

B-)

[Nothing Without Hope]

46. Great catch, bleev! I wonder- is the transmitter in the podium now?

In the debates, of course, it was in the rules that the cameras had to NOT see the backs (and of course we found out why). This time he is basically showing that the "bulge" isn't there. That means they have the transmitter for the wireless unit in his ear either somewhere else on his body or maybe in the podium itself. Anybody here know the range of those things? I have no doubt it could be done; after being chewed out for making it too visible during the debates, the gadget guys came up with a different plan. I'm betting somewhere on the podium.

[candice]

67. A technician who was setting up for one of the debates

stated that the transmitter usually went in the podium but that because of security, he wasn't able to install it which is why Bush wore the appendage on his back during the three debates.

This was on one of the blogs that covered Bush Wired.

[Nothing Without Hope]

75. That's sure news to me! Surely an interview of this person would have

been newsworthy at least in the progressive venues? The story of his illegal wire during the debates was BIG. Any idea where I might be able to find that interview? If not, do you recall whether it was a direct statement from the person who did the installation or a second- or third-hand account?

Very intriguing. The podium really makes a lot of sense.

[candice]

88. I read an account by a source who refused to be named...

he said that during a sweep that he did of the podium's before the first debates, something went off at the Bush podium. He was told in no uncertain terms that he heard nothing. Apparently, the offending device was removed from the podium and placed on Bush's back. Supposedly, it is common knowledge that Bush is usually wearing an ear piece, and the obvious place to put the device is inside the podium. If this is true, it won't be reported as long as someone could be found "suicided" in a motel room. Also, the American public didn't object to Bush's 5/4 appointment, a large step in dismantling our Democratic process. They also vote into black boxes. What is so different about having Karl Rove behind the curtains?

You can check the web sites listed at bushiswired.com.

[Nothing Without Hope]

89. Thank you. It's not a surprise, but it still makes me shudder.

and I'll add Bushiswired.com to my political bookmark collection.

[stpalm]

37. this man is an embarrassment.

god almighty, he can barely form a coherent sentence without having some one feed the words to him. A total joke. Our country is in deep shit. I fear for the future. I hope America can survive.

[Disturbed]

39. "why the MSM won't investigate this?"

The are Corp Lame Stream Media complicit with the Bush Junta Fascists.

[Contrary1]

40. "Thank you all for your answers."

No one sober can repeatedly make such stupid mistakes.

I would consider myself an expert on the subject...at least tonight.

[Left coast liberal]

41. Sure looks like he's being fed answers again.

kick

[radar]

42. Just lowering the bar...

Hehe

Someone in the Democratic leadership should start appearing at press conferences answering questions with an overt piece of electronic communications equipment in hand.

The obvious defense being...
"Hey, if gets to use it, so can I."

[tallahasseedem]

45. I was wondering the same thing.

It still amazes me that this man is our president. I cant talk worth a shit. I miss Clinton.

[orleans]

47. i hear a sound like someone humming after he calls on wendell

it's at 26:12
hummmmm
hummmmmm
hummm-mmm-mmm

(keyboard notes: g,g,g-f-e)?

[Daphne08]

48. I think he was 'wirelessly' wired... surely they can do that?

[Nothing Without Hope]

79. Yes, they can do that. It's what is most likely to have happened during

the 2004 debates with Kerry. The rectangular-shaped bulge visible on Bush's back when (contrary to the rules insisted on by the Bush side) a camera got a shot of his back has the same shape as a wireless transmitter which would have de-encrypted and sent the signal to a wireless receiver/speaker inside his ear.

This time, I'm betting this rectangular box was somewhere in the podium.

[CoffeeCat]

49. I believe he is being fed information, however---

Does anyone else think it is really bizarre that Bush would go to such great lengths to not speak for himself???

I can't IMAGINE being able to hold down a conversation, answer questions and look natural--as someone feeds my responses to me. I'm not giving Junior a compliment here, but this is a skill. It's got to be extremely difficult to finesse this. I know I couldn't do it! You have to speak AND simultaneously listen to the feed to keep the conversation flowing.

This is extremely difficult!

This situation begs two questions: If Junior is skilled at using a wire, it's obvious he's been doing this for a long, long time. He's grown accustomed to it and has adapted to listening and talking. Most likely, he's been doing this for years. His slip ups are rare and they seem to happen more when he's stressed.

If Junior has needed to have info fed to him--one wonders-why??? For a man to absolutely rely on a wire---something is out of place. Why would someone not be able to read a speech or speak about various subjects off the cuff?

What in the hell is wrong with this man, that he needs information spoon fed to him? Something is really, really off--if Junior would go to these extremes to avoid being himself and speaking from the heart.

This man must have serious brain damage or a massive learning disability or something.

This is not just about deception--it's about something being very wrong with this man.

[Lone_Wolf]

51. Of course the Chimporer's wired... he's a figurehead like Raygun...

He doesn't have the foggiest clue what his own administration's policies are. His handlers know that he'd make an even bigger fool out of himself if he answers questions on his own.

This is why he'll only do carefully staged news conferences done in front of a friendly media.

[SharonAnn]

86. Debate videos of 10 years ago show him to be much more able than today.

I was shocked when I saw a video of one of his debates with Ann Richards when he was running for governor in Texas. He was much, much better than he is today.

He has significantly deteriorated in the last 10 years.

[CoffeeCat]

94. What is causing the deterioration?

Junior is a fairly young guy. He's in his early 50's correct?

What would lead to this deterioration?

A former booze habit? Some other physical condition?

If he's healthy enough to ride a bike, that leads out several things.

Maybe being a coke-addict and raging alcoholic all of those years has taken its toll.

[earth mom]

52. I can't believe I didn't notice last night because

I was looking for a wire and didn't see one and just thought to myself that there's no way he'd risk it after that obvious lump on his back during the debates! Plus, I thought he sounded so out there-not to mention mean and angry-that there was no way someone was feeding him lines anyway-LOL!

[texanwitch]

54. I made myself watch the short clip, it wasn' t easy, Bush makes me ill.

He is so wired, you could hear the little wheels turning in his head

when he paused, the person talking in the earpiece must have used a


lot of big words.

[beam me up scotty]

56. I hate to be pessimistic, but...

do any of you really believe this is going to adversely affect him at all? I mean the crimes he's committed go far beyond Rove giving him info from the wings. Most people will just claim "conspiracy theory" and be done with it--like lemmings over the cliff. And they called Reagan the teflon man!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

58. you are right, unfortunately.Boldface lie about Iraq - OOPS! n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

57. kick kick kick good morning from the east coast !!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

59. We need to analyze ALL the debate tapes too. n/t

[candice]

68. Debates were analyzed and the bulge was there for all three

...the Kerry team's comments were supposedly this-- because Bush "lost" all three debates, and wiring couldn't be easily proved (one photo at the end of the debate shows Kerry patting the hump and Vanessa looking at Bush's back), they didn't bring up the cheating. I mean if someone actually watched Bush in a debate and voted for him, they really don't have a clue as to what the qualities of a leader are. Bush was drooping during the first debate, aggressive during the second, and more leveraged during the third. During all of the debates he lied and didn't answer the question. His election would be a new low in a high school class election.

[VOX]

61. Kick for early birds.

:kick:

[mourningdove92]

63. I have the live event on my TIVO

which was set up to record Survivor. I haven't deleted it yet, so I guess I will force myself to watch it to see if I can find any of these examples. Will report back.

Boy, was I mad when I got up Friday morning and happily tried to play Survivor.....and found instead...SMIRK.

[Tsiyu]

66. Kick

:kick:

[Hubert Flottz]

65. I'm glad you told me about it!

I couldn't have ever stood to have watched it for myself!(:puke:)

[thjay]

69. Yes he wore a wire

I listened to the first half hour on my car radio on my way home from work. I watched the rest on TV. Watching made me my stomach turn but it's important to follow the BS first hand and not wait for someone to explain it through their spin.

Watching on TV it was very clear he was getting verbal cues from someone. Repeatedly he paused and looked down for a brief moment then he would continue with more confidence then he started off the answer with.

[MaryBear]

74. Yes, I think he was.

I have no evidence except that the timing of answers seemed in sync with having a voice coaching him.

[rodeodance]

80. email Keith Olbermann who covered it last time and ask him to

investigare--email him this thread.

[e-mail]

[beevul]

81. Wouldnt it be neat...

If the signals telling the idiot what to say could be monitored and recorded? I don't know what the logistics of doing such a thing would be, nor am I suggesting DOING such a thing (ya hear that agent mike?) but if such a thing were done...

Wouldn't it be funny to hear blended the audio of the cues together with what the idiot is actually saying?

I would think that such an audio would be a "useful" tool.

[grasswire]

82. didn't someone on DU say that...

....they think he's looking down at a screen on the top of the podium? Reading answers from a screen? Being prompted via a screen?

I thought a DU-er caught a glimpse from an angle that showed a screen.

[Wizard777]

83. Is it the voices in his ear or the voices in his head he argues with?

It's like the debates. Bush was making a run up to what should have been the logical and beautiful conclusion of, the constitution says all men are equal. When suddenly he abruptly stoped short of that to admonish the microphone. "Well, It just doesn't say that!" then went on to something else. I guess it's just that old republican idiom at work. Some men are more equal that others. They have come a long way.

[mtnsnake]

84. Some of you are giving this imbecile way too much credit

If he's wired, he's not wired in the sense you think he is. It may go way beyond what any of us can imagine.

What I mean is, there is no way this jackass could pull this off in the sense we're discussing....getting feeds from a remote source and responding with multi-sentence answers shortly afterward. One-word answers, yes, but nothing more. For one thing, his answers are not only bumbling and embarrassing, but they're not even relevant to the questions being asked half the time.

I think he pauses like he does because he's as STUPID as we all know he is. I'm sure that people who are like him, people who have trouble answering questions that are harder than how much is 2 +2, are taught to pause and hesitate for as long as it takes for them to come up with some sort of a response. He's probably pausing for so long in order to decide which of the scripted, pre-memorized answers should be applied to any certain question. There could be someone even telling him over the wire which answer to use ("George, use answer #4 for that question, and don't screw it up you moran!).

Oh, and if he really IS wired with long babbling answers, then it's in such a way that he isn't actually speaking himself. It's someone else with a "stand-in" voice doing the talking and the Chimp is simply moving his lips to the music, where even his lips are computerized and wired to conform correctly to the words that are coming from the remote source.

[dxstone]

85. UTTERLY OBVIOUS...

Like EVERYTHING else about this sorry misadministration...
I don't see how it'll make much difference, though...
From the very first presidential debate, it has been utterly, thoroughly, horrifyingly, tragically OBVIOUS that the little pinhead is a SLOW CHILD AT PLAY.
I joke about him a lot, about how evil and stupid he seems... he is both of these things, but he's no evil genius; he's doing his dad's bidding, and when he fucks up Pap knocks him upside the head with a ballpeen hammer a few times, then blames it on a bike or a pretzel...
To my mind, the truest analogy for Jr. would be Jack Nicholson in Prizzi's Honor, only not as sharp...
This joker's walking around in a cloud. He has NO idea what he's doing or saying or what any of it means; he's just following orders and dancing to the jerking strings...
He needs ALL the help he can get...



D X Stone
"I LOVE horror movies, man... I just don't want to LIVE in one."
http://presidentevilonline.com

[sunnystarr]

87. I was watching it on MSNBC ...

afterwards one of the guests stated that Bush gets all the questions ahead of time and (someone) prepares responses. These prepared responses could be what's fed into his ear. It seems that when he misses points he jokes around and never gets back to the point of the question.

*edited for spelling

[OneTwentyoNine]

92. Its a chinch you could NEVER get in with a scanner.......

To one of these dog and pony shows of Bush's. If you could you could nail his ass to the floorboards in seconds once you found the freq,which on my scanner wouldn't take more than a minute or two.

That SOB didn't just trip up and was looking for words,he CLEARLY paused while being fed information. Jesus what a farce.....

[ComerPerro]

97. I remember that moment, it sent me out of the room I was so pissed

He starts to say something, stutters, says "Wait a minute" or something like that, cocks his head to one side (like a dog waiting for orders from its master), stutters and stammers some more, then finally says "Democracy!".

I was embarassed and pissed that a man so stupid can convince enough Americans of his legitimacy to make the election fruad look legit. I was pissed and embarassed that this dry-drunk moron was speaking for me, as an American, in the eyes of the international community.

And I was ashamed that so many people still manage to convince themselves that Bush is a great speaker and can still be inspired by such arrgant stupidity, in spite of all contrary evidence.

[orleans]

98. if you turn up your speakers you can hear someone talking

but george--your lips aren't moving--certainly it's not your brain--must be that little voice in your head that keeps telling you what to say

[bruised]

99. NY times had proof but censored it.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2012