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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:51 AM
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Ooops! Copy-and-Paste Reveals Classified U.S. Documents
Check it out! Go to this site where the hyperlinks are all still active and see for yourself! Go down into the comment areas for mirror sites of the document! What a bunch of dumbheads!!!

Copy-and-Paste Reveals Classified U.S. Documents

Posted by CmdrTaco on Sunday May 01, @09:43AM
from the hate-when-that-happens dept.
cyclop writes "In March, U.S. troops in Iraq shot to death Nicola Calipari, the Italian intelligence agent that rescued the kidnapped journalist Giuliana Sgrena. U.S. commission on the incident produced a report which public version was censored for more than one third. Now Italian press is reporting that all confidential information in the report is available to the public, just by copying "hidden" text from the PDF and pasting it in a word processor (Italian). The uncensored report can now be directly downloaded (evil .DOC format, sorry)"

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/01/1314216&tid=172&tid=103
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:01 AM
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1. BBC running the story
i wonder if our great fifth estate will run anything about this story....
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:04 AM
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2. Can someone
Tell me what this means in summary? This thing is huge and on first read seems to support the story that it was accident... so I may not be reading it right (given all of those various 3 letter speak).
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markam Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:05 AM
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3. Great find
This report has great info that they have tried to prevent from getting public.

From 1 November 2004 to 12 March 2005 there were a total of 3306 attacks in the Baghdad area. Of these, 2400 were directed against Coalition Forces. (Annex 8E



The number of IED detonations from 15 June 2003 through 4 March 2005 (the date of the incident), has steadily increased.

I thought things were getting better there?????? I am shocked to find out differently.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:05 AM
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4. The Word document is available
at La Repubblica.

http://www.repubblica.it/index.html

Click on the "Con Gli Omissis" part of the red link: SENZA OMISSIS/CON GLI OMISSIS, located to the right of a picture of a computer screen.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:17 AM
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7. It's available on the original post as evil.doc which is a Word file
in the actual first paragraph of that post. It is huge.

And, yes, they've been lying again! Look at the attacks!!!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:16 AM
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12. I didn't realize .doc was
a Word file. Sorry. (I'll have to look at some of the many that I have.)

Lying again? Or lying still?
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:08 AM
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5. Guess all the morans aren't at Free Republic
"While I might agree that U.S. Soldiers are trigger happy, I think the guy killed in this case might have been a legitimate military target--if indeed, he was paying ransomes to get hostages..."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:08 AM
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:18 AM
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8. I think they thought everyone else was too stupid to catch it.....
must have been in a hurry!!! And they want to do the Patriot Act again!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:32 AM
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:27 AM
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9. I read through a lot of it and they are claiming it is an accident with
some fault on both sides.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:20 AM
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13. I read through most of it as well
I skimmed the beginning but read the end. I agree with you, it does place blame on both sides.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:46 AM
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11. What part of this is supposed to be news? I'm looking at html version
http://213.160.111.174/unclassified.htm

It's not like they confessed to trying to kill her on purpose or anything.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:27 AM
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14. The report also contains a long list of sensible-sounding recommendations
Edited on Mon May-02-05 02:28 AM by Nothing Without Hope
So sensible, the fact that they were not ALREADY in place shows the lack of organization on the ground there. Here are just a few of the recommendations - don't these seem like very obvious points to you? You can almost hear the frustration in the person writing this report:


Recommend the Force Protection Working Group consider the use of additional non-lethal measures (e.g., spike strips, temporary speed bumps, and wire) be emplaced to slow down or stop vehicles before the use of disabling shots. The intent is to provide as many non-lethal options as possible before asking a Soldier to focus on firing the weapon.

(U) Recommend that the Force Protection Working Group, in conjunction with MNC-I Information Operations, propagate a Public Awareness/Public Service Campaign to inform all drivers of their responsibilities for behavior when approaching and while at Coalition Checkpoints. This information could be posted on panels or boards at airports and other major transportation centers, as well as in pamphlets to be distributed from various locations, to include rental car agencies and border control points. This public awareness campaign should enhance safe operations by promoting mutual trust, cooperation, and confidence for Coalition Forces and Iraqi citizens as well as formally outlining expected driver behavior throughout the AOR.

(U) Recommend the Force Protection Working Group consider the following points as they develop the MNC-I SOP for TCP operations:
• (S//NF) Different signs for ECPs, TCPs, and BPs. For example:
o (S//NF) Road Closed – Do Not Enter (for BPs).
o (S//NF) Coalition Checkpoint Ahead – Proceed Slowly and Follow Directions (for TCPs).

(U) Signs written in Arabic and English should, where possible, also incorporate international symbols to accommodate foreign nationals as they begin operating in Iraq.
• (S//NF) Highly visible and quickly deployable checkpoint and roadblock warning signs for Soldiers on patrol.
• (S//NF) Standards for when and how to use spotlights and lasers.
• (S//NF) The use of hand-held signs as an alternative to hand-and-arm signals.

(U) Recommend a review of frequently established TCP locations to consider the use of existing permanent highway overpass signs that warn drivers that checkpoints may be upcoming (e.g., “Possible Checkpoint Ahead – Next Exit”).

(S//NF) Recommend an assessment of the current technique of requiring the gunner to operate both the spotlight and the weapon in the turret of the vehicle. This will allow more reaction time and simplify duties and responsibilities of the gunner.

(snip - the list of recommendations continues.)
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:23 AM
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15. No wonder they did not want to let these attack statistics
get out.
The numbers belie even calling these simply "attacks."
It seems to be a continuous, full time war, which lightens up, now and then.
I would like to know if the ambassador who precipitated this tragic event was actually on a mission that justified the investment in money, time, materiel and personal disaster, or, perhaps, just hurrying to keep a tryst with his secretary...?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:53 AM
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16. so why would this be classified?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:44 AM
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17. Because it indicates responsibility . . . if they did nothing wrong, why
would they have to change their procedures?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 07:17 AM
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18. my dad was with the 3rd Infantry Division years ago, this would be
a cluster F to them back then.

Here's another link to this story in case others are having trouble with the docs:

If you close your eyes, you don't actually disappear
US military breaches its own confidentiality through ignorance of how PDF really works (and blows cover of people involved in the Italian hostage shooting)

http://www.webmink.net/
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:01 AM
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19. still a cluster F, imho ... Italians disagree with US conclusions and
will be releasing their own report at week's end ... I suspect that the main point of contention would be some other common sense thing like how in the F would an Italian plane arrive and be at the ready at the Bagdhad Airport to whisk these folks back home if the US military was NOT notified?? oh, puhleeeeeeeeeeze.

BTW, let's all feel extra safe just knowing that (like you said) a PDF clic SNAFU puts the whole world on notice of what's really going on ... OTH, the non-cynical part of me says: what if the "hidden text" feature was permitted on purpose, and somebody in the belly of that Pentagon beast is almost as fed up with all the lies as we are???
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x_y_no Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:17 AM
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20. There seem to be two basic reasons ...
One is information about specific equipment and procedures.

The other is statistics which are embarassing because they contradict the "everything is really wonderful over there" story.

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The classification level is a low one - Secret / No Foreign distribution.
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