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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:41 AM
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The NPR Hourly Newscast report about the Pentagons Screw-up...
Is back on the Internet! At least until 3:00am EDT, when they might pull it again. Go to NPR .org to hear it, before it's gone again. It's the report by Vicky O'Hara. The link is java, so I can't post it, but it's about Halfway down on the left, between the Program list and the Contact Us link.

Here's the BBC report and the LBN DU post from last night: <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1437886>


Italy media reveals Iraq details

By David Willey
BBC News in Rome

Italian media have published classified sections of an official US military inquiry into the accidental killing of an Italian agent in Baghdad.

Last Updated: Sunday, 1 May, 2005, 22:22 GMT 23:22 UK

The 40-page report was censored by the Pentagon before being officially published on Saturday. Italy has refused to accept the US report's findings and is to publish its own version of events later this week. Details of the official report were published in newspapers on Sunday with censored material restored in full.

Missing text

A Greek medical student at Bologna University who was surfing the web early on Sunday found that with two simple clicks of his computer mouse he could restore censored portions of the report. He passed the details to Italian newspapers which immediately put out the full text on their own websites.

The missing text contains the names and ranks of all of the American military personnel involved in the killing of Nicola Calipari, the Italian agent who was given a state funeral and awarded Italy's highest medal of valour. It also reveals the rules of engagement in operation at the military checkpoint near Baghdad airport which have been contested by the Italian authorities.

(more at link above)
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:29 AM
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1. I'm Glad the Italians are Standing Up to them
I hope the truth comes out. Thanks for finding that.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:57 AM
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3. Would this be released in Italy if Berlusconi was still in there, i.e.,
how free is their media (compared to our Court of King George propagandists).
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:07 PM
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7. I don't mean to be critical of your post, but...
1) Berlusconi IS still in there, sort of, he "Quit" the old Government, so that her can "reform" a "new Government." I'm not going to pretend that I understand the Italian form of government (Parliamentary system, I think), but most reports I've heard say that Berlusconi will be the prime Minister of the "new Government."

2) The Italian Press is more free than ours (they have "Communist" News papers, we don't) except that, Berlusconi owns or controls about 80% of T.V. News Channels and Newspapers.

So maybe you're right on the second point, but the Italian Press isn't going to go against Berlusconi.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:43 PM
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6. Me too
Somebody has to stand up to them.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:52 AM
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2. Saved from the aethter
Saved from the aethter. Found on page 2 with only 1 reply. Kick and nominated.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:32 AM
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4. And what's most dubious of all
Is looking at what was "classified" in this report and wondering why on earth someone thought the information so sensitive that it had to be redacted in the first place. My totally uninformed opinion is that in excess of 90% of all those classification redactions are done for no real reason or to save some muckety muck from embarrassment, not because of any substantive information that must be kept secret from our enemies.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:45 AM
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Redacting the names of the soldiers protects them from legal action.
The rules of engagement obviously need to be redacted so that they can't be exploited.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:45 AM
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5. Redacting the names of the soldiers protects them from legal action.
The rules of engagement obviously need to be redacted so that they can't be exploited.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:17 PM
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8. BBC report on NPR this a.m. said they had copies of this and that the
"redacted" parts had been restored and it was "sloppiness" (I think that was the word) that had left the names and the "rules of engagement" in the report. :eyes: The BBC reporter didn't mention the "Greek medial student" but then one has to be careful with the BBC these days and especially when it's reported over NPR.



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