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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:23 PM Original message |
Open Letter to Tom Hayden, Dennis Kucinich, PDAmerica, et. al. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. OUTSTANDING post. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thanks, I had lost that first link. That is a treasure. I saved it. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. Maybe the Greenocrats are getting grumpy |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Thank you, I agree so totally |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I appreciate your "stepping up to the plate" in that way |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Yes you have |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
87. Here here! |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Excellent statement, Eloriel, and absolutely true. |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. Great post! |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
171. I saw nothing where Hayden called Dean a "hypocrite". |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
6. Who cares if Dean is consistent! |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Do you imagine that you disagree with Dean or something? |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Dean doesn't support "stay the course to infinity" platitudes. |
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LizW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
9. Thanks for this excellent post. n/t |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. Ah, I see. We shouldn't murder and repress Iraqis alone... |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yeah, right |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. He said as "peace keepers", not COMBAT SOLDIERS. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. It's next on the reading list after "My Pet Goat" |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. So you had to take a cheap shot at him rather than saying nothing. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Hey, what are you complaining about |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
127. Deleted message |
LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:51 PM Response to Reply #127 |
172. Hrrr? |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:17 PM Response to Reply #172 |
201. Well said LittleClarkie! |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. He can call them what he wants... |
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Kevin Spidel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. "PDA trafficking in misrepresentations" |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Kevin, show me ONE instance when Dean has been wrong. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. If he isn't supposed to discuss policy, then why-- |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. The word was "set" policy |
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Maerie (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #27 |
93. Great post |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
68. Who cares if it pisses off Pelosi and Reid |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
129. I agree with this. But Dean is a man of integrity. |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. His promises to who? Bush? |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. WTF? Suggest you read this: |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:12 PM Response to Reply #133 |
143. Nice sentiments |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #143 |
149. He IS considering these factors. |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. You just gobble up everything they spoon feed you. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. What? |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. I am still waiting for your response. nt |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #154 |
156. What's the question? n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Oh, yes, Kevin, you know what it "has to do with." |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I need that link, mf, please |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. I will put it in your inbox, but I won't post it. |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
72. I didn't expect to see something like this from YOU: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 09:29 AM Response to Reply #72 |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. I don't have a 'dog in this hunt'... |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
126. Again, he did NOT change position. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. Kevin, you are STILL misrepresenting Dean's position |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:02 AM Response to Reply #36 |
60. Dean said during the primary |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
59. Yes, its funny how many Deaniacs suddenly support the war in Iraq, |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #59 |
94. Who supports the war? |
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Willinois (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Dean does |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #97 |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. I also love |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. The UN "peacekeepers" will be seen as "occupiers" |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. I said below |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. The UN Is seen as an extention of the US by most in Iraq after the |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. No one said they would |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #124 |
139. I wish two things. 1. That the UN were interested in helping out, and 2. |
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Willinois (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:07 PM Original message |
Not true about Kucinich and some other Dems. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
109. Bologna. A UN OCCUPATION is still an OCCUPATION. |
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Willinois (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. There is no such thing as staying until it is stable. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. Like I said, dream all you like the UN won't help and has said as much. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #118 |
165. So what? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #165 |
170. Dean supports "democracy" in Iraq. |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. So, you support the Occupation? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. "The occupation" uh-huh and I support killing babies too. |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #106 |
135. What would that be, Molly? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. I love the comparisons to Vietnam here. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #106 |
166. And what Dean wants is Bush's exit strategy, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #166 |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #174 |
175. If that isn't a case of the pot calling the kettle black. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #175 |
179. Amusing as a mosquito. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #179 |
196. Resorting to name calling and taunts? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #196 |
203. As I said ... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
92. Kevin, PDA has a responsibility to act "responsibly." |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
17. Great letter, Eloriel. Recommended. NT |
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Kenneth ken (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
21. my $.02 |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. You want him to say he wants our policy in Iraq to be UNSUCCESSFUL? |
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Kenneth ken (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I want him to say it has ALREADY failed |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Well, in that case, h's way ahead of you |
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Kenneth ken (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. okay Dean called it a failure |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:21 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. he didnt' say "succeed on Bush's terms" -- |
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Kenneth ken (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:05 AM Response to Reply #52 |
61. I'm not trying to parse words |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #61 |
75. Then may I suggest you start your own damn thread? |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:47 AM Response to Reply #41 |
69. Interesting that if it is Kucinich: |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 09:44 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. You sure can misinterpret and twist things. |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. No he wasn't |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #79 |
88. Yes, dear, consistency IS the point of this thread -- read the OP again |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #88 |
140. Did you just call me, "dear"? lol |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #79 |
104. UN in US out was Kooch's position. And the UN has said they don't want IN |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Kucinich also made the argument BEFORE |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:17 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. Also I would point out |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. The UN did say they won't assist in a war they did not support. |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Anyone other than Bush** |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. I agree that anyone but * would have had a fighting chance, but |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. Huh. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #125 |
138. Glad you can't think of any, I can think of several. |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Several? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #142 |
152. Sorry, did I appear unrelaxed? |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #152 |
161. Nah |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Oh hell, I don't take anything here personally. |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. Glad to hear that. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #108 |
115. So did Dean. Kucinich and others said if we go in to Iraq we'll create |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #115 |
167. The UN is not a monolithic groups that cannot be persuaded. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:49 PM Response to Reply #167 |
183. Nope, that's not what they said. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #183 |
197. "they" who? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:18 PM Response to Reply #197 |
202. Koffi Annan said it that's who. And, anyone following this issue should |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. What parts of Bush policy should be successful? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:32 AM Response to Reply #48 |
67. Key point! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
25. What about the New Hampshire flyer? |
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ProudToBeLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. My question and only one question |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. No, it was not paid for by the campaign. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Thanks. One little piece of info I missed |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Just in my head. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. It's called poisoning the well |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. So, given that the 'mainstream' press screwed Dean royally-- |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. That's what I said: it DIDN'T take the media to know DK was NOT |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. That's a circular argument |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:08 AM Response to Reply #53 |
62. The crowds followed the media coverage-- |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 10:07 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. I'm sorry, you're forgetting the part that came BEFORE that |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:56 AM Response to Reply #53 |
71. Maybe if Kucinich wasn't marginalized by the Corporate press |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Eridani, I am always accused of bringing up the primaries. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. No. Kucinich wants Dean to take a stand against permanent occupation |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. He's already done it, that's wha'ts wrong with that |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Well, then Dean is misrepresenting his own position-- |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #45 |
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paineinthearse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
26. Don't forget Ralph Nader |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. Nader has not the slightest interest in building an organization-- |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
50. This entire post is a straw-man argument that misses the point. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:31 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Oh, no, we haven't GOTTEN to that point because of the false premises |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:49 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Where did Kucinich misrepresent Dean? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:17 PM Response to Reply #102 |
111. It is too bad that you have to separate everything and |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #111 |
122. I believe KUCINICH did so CWebster. |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. If you bothered to note |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #128 |
137. I endorse Iraq's success as does Dean. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #137 |
180. Bush "success" is absolutely antithetical to Iraqi "success" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #180 |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #182 |
187. Obviously you agree with it now, then. Glad to be of help. n/t |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #122 |
178. You are totally ignoring the reason WHY the UN doesn't want in |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #178 |
181. Are you speaking for Koffi Annan now? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #181 |
186. The "mission" is the conquest of Iraq and it's permanent subjugation |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #186 |
188. Yeah ok. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. So, you are willing to work agaist it now? Good. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. No I tire of listening to non-sense. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:32 PM Response to Reply #190 |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
51. So now you support the war in Iraq? |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:37 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. No, I have always supported |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:47 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Here's the link |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Kindly explain the difference between your phrase |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #63 |
77. You know |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #77 |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Sorry. |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 10:33 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. There are plenty |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
130. . |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
158. So, you don't want the Iraqis to have a democratic government? nt |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #158 |
168. Bush doesn't want them to have a real democratic government. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:49 PM Response to Reply #168 |
198. Do you? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
64. The intention of DK's open letter: |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
65. The issue was never whether his words are set in stone |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:54 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. "everyone is jealous of Dean's support and following." |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #65 |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
66. Great post! |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
81. NO ONE has answered my questions. No one. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 10:56 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #85 |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. It is sad that in your efforts to protect and defend Dean |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Well, then if you say "our elected representatives listen to us and act in |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:03 PM Response to Reply #95 |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #101 |
123. And what exactly did I lie about, in your opinion? NT |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #95 |
131. Easy enough for you to go back and read it, but here it is |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #131 |
134. Whether you buy that it's not his job to participate, that's the job |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #134 |
144. And like I said, I don't care what Pelosi and Reid demand |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Yes, "You" still have the power, which brings me back to my first |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Nice catch 22 |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. The ball's in the court of those elected officials who represent us. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #81 |
98. I've asked those very same questions previously. |
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Willinois (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #81 |
107. It looks like your question has been answered several times. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
86. Very nice Eloriel. My thread replying to DK was locked for some reason? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Deleted message |
mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Wow. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:59 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Yep. It seems to be quite the trend. n/t |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
113. OK, here are answers to your questions |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #113 |
136. I guess nobody |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #136 |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #164 |
169. Some maybe |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #113 |
159. No, that is NOT the policy that Dean supports. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. He wishes the president's policy great success |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #159 |
177. Doesn't matter. They're into the anti-Dean schtick and the lies. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #159 |
191. Then he needs to articulate that policy-- |
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Algomas (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
148. Let's open the window and let some of this hot air out... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:05 PM Response to Reply #148 |
192. That is the attitude of some Dems, not all |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
150. Excellent!!! Send a copy of this post as a letter to Kucinich, |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #150 |
155. Dean Supporters Ought To Write To Howard Dean! |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. I'm speaking as a member of my town's Dem Comm, who endorsed Dean for |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #157 |
193. And I made the motion in my LD to endorse Dean for chair. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
173. Again, Tom Hayden's "Open Letter to Howard Dean" |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #173 |
176. I like Hayden's letter (for the most part) and agree with much of what he |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #176 |
184. More. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #184 |
185. I think Hayden insinuated Dean is trapped in an illusion ... |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #185 |
194. Tom Hayden doesn't insinuate, he never has. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:16 PM Response to Reply #194 |
200. Well the UN contradicts your statements above, and I'll take them at |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #185 |
195. But what if we actually renounced the policy of conquest? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #195 |
199. They don't want to "die" is more like it. |
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206. Locking Can we please just move on Folks? |
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