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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:10 AM
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Did they lie about Bush's "bike ride" a couple of days ago ??
It doesn't add up. If the president is "riding a bike", there are Secret Service agents always nearby, with their phones ready to talk at a moment's notice. If there is a plane headed for the White House, it would be important enough to make a phone call, no one can argue. But, was a call made?

And if a call was made, why did Mr. Bush not receive it? Did Cheney decide this was another incident that did not deserve the president's attention. It was more important that he finish his bike ride? It doesn't make sense. It sounds like a lie on the face of it.
Or perhaps Bush was in no condition to take a call? Is he hitting the bottle again?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:17 AM
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1. * was told about it, but decided to do nothing --
he didn't want to frighten the Secret Service personnel.
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FinallyStartingToWin Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:20 AM
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2. Some Thoughts On that Here
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:23 AM
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5. Who are Hayden Sheaffer and Troy Martin?
Any info on those characters?
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:22 AM
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3. That's what I was thinking. Maybe he was "riding a bike"... nudge nudge
Wink wink. Know what I mean? Know what I mean? I wonder what her name was?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:23 AM
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4. Scottie-Boy's "press conference" was a hoot. Excerpts:
Edited on Fri May-13-05 10:31 AM by trof
Q: Scott, yesterday the White House was on red alert, was evacuated. The first lady and Nancy Reagan were taken to a secure location. The Vice President was evacuated from the grounds. The Capitol building was evacuated. The continuity of government plan was initiated. And yet the president wasn't told of yesterday's events until after he finished his bike ride, about 36 minutes after the all-clear had been sent. Is he satisfied with the fact that he wasn't notified about this?

McCLELLAN: Yes. I think you just brought up a very good point -- the protocols that were in place after Sept. 11 were followed. The president was never considered to be in danger because he was at an off-site location. The president has a tremendous amount of trust in his Secret Service detail. ...

Q: The fact that the president wasn't in danger is one aspect of this. But he's also the commander in chief. There was a military operation underway. Other people were in contact with the White House. Shouldn't the commander in chief have been notified of what was going on?

McCLELLAN: John, the protocols that we put in place after Sept. 11 were being followed. They did not require presidential authority for this situation. I think you have to look at each situation and the circumstances surrounding the situation. And that's what officials here at the White House were doing. ...

Q: Even on a personal level, did nobody here at the White House think that calling the president to say, by the way, your wife has been evacuated from the White House, we just want to let you know everything is OK?

McCLELLAN: Actually, all the protocols were followed and people were -- officials that you point out were taken to secure locations or evacuated, in some cases. I think, again, you have to look at the circumstances surrounding the situation, and it depends on the situation and the circumstance. ...

Q: Nobody thought to say, by the way, this is going on, but it's all under control?

McCLELLAN: And I think it depends on each situation and the circumstances surrounding the situation when you're making those decisions.

Q: Isn't there a bit of an appearance problem, notwithstanding the president's safety was not in question, protocols were followed, that today, looking at it, he was enjoying a bike ride, and that recreation time was not considered expendable to inform him of this.

McCLELLAN: Well, I mean, John mentioned 36 minutes after the all-clear. Remember, this was a matter of minutes when all this was happening. ...

Q: But has the President even indicated that even if everything was followed that he would prefer to be notified, that if the choice is: tell the commander in chief or let him continue to exercise, that he would prefer to be informed?
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000920092
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:53 PM
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14. Talking points!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:25 AM
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6. the incident only lasted an hour or so
the little bushturd is about #250 on the need-to-know list, so they never worked their way down to him.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:25 AM
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7. I read that the SS knew, and didn't tell him till it was over.
I get the impression that * is obsessive about his exercise to the point of mania or pathology. "Dry drunks" must follow a routine and cannot be upset from it. I get the impression that he is fragile mentally & that everyone around him must walk on eggs & shelter him from things that will upset his carefully constructed routine. Either that or he was drunk as a skunk.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:31 AM
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8. Obsessive About His Bike Ride...
...and the country he was "elected" (:rofl: ) to lead be damned!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:35 AM
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9. Remember the little song and dance they did
about where he was after the Towers were hit. Two days later we find out he was running for his life to anywhere he could find a landing strip big enough to accommodate his plane. He was in a hidey hole somewhere ala Sadam.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:42 AM
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10. Because Cheney's the real president.
This incident should be proof of that.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:56 PM
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16. Definietly
This showed me two things. 1) He's not really a president 2) He's not in control of anything. If he can't control something like this how can he make decisions to go to war?
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:47 AM
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11. Sure was a huge white towel in the pics I saw...
I wonder where Gannon was during that episode. Has anyone checked the WH visitor logs for that day???
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:44 PM
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13. Actually Bush was riding an old flame
http://us.news3.yimg.com/img.news.yahoo.com/util/anysize/338,http%3A%2F%2Fus.news2.yimg.com%2Fus.yimg.com%2Fp%2Fafp%2F20050512%2Fcapt.sge.ovt37.120505155538.photo01.photo.default-310x338.jpg

Supposedly the fellow in blue is an old friend from High School. I get the feeling that something other than bike riding was keeping Bush away from his presidential duties.



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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:11 PM
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12. To the question, "did they lie"
Were their mouths open?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:55 PM
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15. I heard he hopped in an F-16 and escorted the Cessna down
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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