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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:09 PM
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It's time for the Democrats to take Specter up on his offer...
To release all our members to vote their conscience and to challenge the Republican leadership to do the same. Senator Harry Reid said today that several Repubican Senators had come up to him and told him they agreed with his position but they had to follow the wishes of their Leadership. I don't see a whole lot of other options.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:13 PM
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1. I'd agree with that. I do have one question though....
Other than their constituents emailing them and demanding that they vote against these nominees, what's binding them to vot in a block now?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:15 PM
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2. Funding for their re-election campaigns.
Even McCain, who was giving near tirades against the nuke a few weeks ago, seems to be caving.

God help us all.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:23 PM
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5. So what's either Reid or Frist saying they're releasing them going to
to to change that? Sure, I understand the $$ and the special interest groups putting pressure on both sides of this issue. That's not what I asked.

Why would it make any difference if each Party leader released each Senator and said vote your concience. That insinuates that they are totally under Party rule! I didn't think that wsa true for ALL of them!
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:20 PM
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3. That is Unilateral Disarmament
we can propose all the good-faith bullshit we want to...the GOP will NEVER do ANYTHING in good faith. It ain't IN THEM! Bring on the fucking nuclear option and lets see where it leads.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:22 PM
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4. The whole idea is psychological warfare...
Edited on Thu May-19-05 10:22 PM by kentuck
By putting forth such an idea with hopes that it will divide the Repubs and hopefully get a few to come to their senses and also to put the leadership on the spot. Think chess.... :)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:27 PM
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7. I kind of have to agree with you
It's just gone too far...let them play their game of chicken, and in the end, they'll drive their car off the cliff.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:30 PM
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8. But our children are in the front seat...
Shouldn't we try to stop it? Maybe it won't be all that bad?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:35 PM
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9. Hope that the airbag works and the GOP driver isn't belted
Pull the kid out of the wreck and start again....
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:44 PM
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10. We will hope for the best...
Once you do all you can do, that is all that you can do.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:23 PM
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6. Hmm last time I looked
the politicians worked for US and not their Leadership. We're in a republic and not a theocracy or dictatiorship. It's PRESIDENT Bush and NOT King George Bush. Maybe these people should realize that? Hmm, nah. They're scared pussy's.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:27 PM
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11. That's the message Democrats should put forth...
They work for us, the people, not George Bush and not the Republican Party...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:07 AM
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12. 2703-1
That number says everything we need to know about the Republican McSenators. They are drones for the Queen B.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:18 AM
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13. "they had to follow the wishes of their leadership"
Edited on Fri May-20-05 01:18 AM by Clarkie1
So that's what senators are elected to do these days? Silly me, I thought they were supposed to follow the wishes of their constituents.
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