Things that make you go hmmm... Bishop Harry R. Jackson

[cyberpj]

This was a reply post to my thread on Frist and the newest Reverend Jackson (just too convenient, isn't it...the conservative's own minister named Jackson? Doesn't it just smack of a cutesy Rove joke?)

Anyway - this was a reply post that I really think deserves it's own thread in case there are other info diggers out there who might find out even more. Thanks drm604 for your work and observations! While I noted and visited the himpactus.com website I had no idea you could find out so much info about it. And remember --this guy and many others are using their tax-free status to preach politics! It's against the law!!!

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The original thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1795426

drm604' Informative Post:
drm604 (319 posts) Fri May-20-05 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #5

33. Things that make you go hmmm...

If you click on www.himpactus.com you will find that "Bishop Harry R. Jackson" is "the Founder and Chairman of the High Impact Leadership Coalition."

Here is the whois info for that domain. If you do a reverse lookup on 67.63.134.100, which is the IP address for himpactus.com, you'll find a list of 24 domains which are all hosted at that IP address.

The fact that a number of domains are hosted on the same IP doesn't necessarily mean that there is any relationship between those domains other than that they are using the same hosting service. But in this case a number of them (and possibly all them) are definitely related.

I won't go into all of the details, I haven't studied them that closely yet myself and all of you are as capable at clicking and reading as I am. But some things stand out.

For one thing, all or most of them seem to be related to a church or ministry of one kind or another and the same addresses, contact emails etc. keep popping up. I'm guessing that at least some of these domains are probably simply fronts that consist of little more than a website. However, I can't prove that at present.

The whois for himpactus.com shows administrative and technical contact email addresses with the domain nurevelation.com, which is itself one of the 24 listed domains.

This same domain shows up in email addresses in a number of the domains listed. The whois for nurevelation.com shows the name "Odoom, T. Naomie" as the administrative and technical contact for that domain. Variations on that name show up on a number of the domains.

I believe that "T. Naomie Odoom" is the wife of This man, John Odoom, who is running for North Carolina State Senate. He's a black Republican with a very rightwing agenda. He has a wife named Naomie Odoom, He's a partner with NuRevelation, Inc, and he's a member of Crossroads Fellowship (2 of the listed domains are crfmissions.com and crfmissions.org). - At the start of this paragraph I said I "believe" that she is his wife. I take that back, I'm positive that she is, there're too many coincidences.

There is probably a lot more to be dug up regarding these domains but the little bit I've found is certainly interesting. A black "bishop" professing conservative religious and political beliefs, who has political connections with a powerful senator, and who is also connected through various "church groups" with a conservative black NC senatorial candidate.

Like I said, things that make you go hmmm...

[drm604]

1. ALL THE ACTIVE LINKS FROM MY ORIGINAL POST ARE HERE

Thank you for bringing attention to my post. However, your copy and paste eliminated most of my links which makes it difficult for anyone to follow up on my research. Below is a link to my original post, it has the working links to all of the whois info etc. You may want to edit your post and add this link to it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1795426&mesg_id=1795886

[cyberpj]

2. Sorry. My edit period has expired.

Perhaps you can change your post to read "all active links are here" or something similar?

[drm604]

3. Kick

:kick:

[drm604]

4. Kick

:kick:

[cyberpj]

5. We're just not catching any fish at all with this bait, are we?

Maybe we should let it sink and tomorrow you could try coming up with the kind of catchy subject line that piques curiosity - and repost all the info again --with the active links.

Then, if it drops again --we have to let it I guess.

At that point you should just hold onto the info in case it becomes relevant to another incident at another time.

Thanks again for your digging - it's all quite interesting. Or should I say hmmm...

[drm604]

6. I'm planning on doing some more digging

then maybe I'll start a new thread. Your original thread seemed to get a lot of interest. Any ideas for a title that would catch people's interest? I suspect it might help if we put "Frist" in the title. Maybe it should be in a different forum.

[cyberpj]

7. Hmmm...

"Frist's New Friend, His Very Own Minister Named Jackson"

"Should We Report This Info About Frist's Minister Jackson?"


Those are my 2 suggestions. And you're right - maybe putting it in GD (General Discussion) would give it a new life.

I'll watch for whatever new dirt you might find.

Peace.

[ebayfool]

9. Hmmm - kicking

Keep going, you're doing some interesting digging here.
I'm not the greatest at digging, but I CAN kick real well!

[cyberpj]

11. Appreciated. nt.

[jim3775]

8. Some dirt...

All of those websites were registered by NuRevelation (notice the "Powered by NRI" image on all of the active websites) a religious marketing firm out of Raleigh NC. It has been around since 2002 and John and Naomie Odoom are partners in this small business. John is running for state senate on the fundie ticket.



NuRevelation is listed in the raleigh yellow pages:
NUREVELATION INC
809 SPRING FOREST RD
RALEIGH, NC 27609
{919) 232-0068

This is probably a strip mall or small offices because a golf equipment store a dentist and a family doctor are at the same address.

The address also seems to be the
Southeast Regional Office of the U.S. Center for World Mission,
The regional office is run by:
Bob and Ellen Stevens
Jean Sorokin
Judy Laidley
809 Spring Forest Rd., Suite 1000,
Raleigh, NC 27609.
Phone: [phone].
E-mail: [e-mail].

The main org is run by according to whois:
William Carey Intl University
1539 E Howard St
Pasadena, CA
91104-2698
626-398-2172
FAX:[phone]

Now here is where the dirt starts
NuRevelation is a partner of the International Community Development Company And guess who the ICDC is registered to,

Administrative Contact:
NuRevelation Inc.
Odoom, T. Naomie
809 SpringForest Rd.,
Suite 1000
Raleigh, NC 27609
919-232-0068
Fax:[phone]

The next line of investigation should be to REALLY look into the Odoom's look for connections between them and Bishop Jackson and other Republicans and check all of those other partner companies and see who actually owns them.

EDIT: Links fixed.

[cyberpj]

10. Thanks for that! nt.

[blondeatlast]

12. "A religious marketing firm?"

:wtf: Bible do these people read, anyhow?

1 Ti 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

[drm604]

14. jim3775, thanks for all of the info.

Maybe we should work together on this. If you haven't recommended this thread for greatest yet, maybe you should do so.

Maybe I should clarify what I think I'm looking for here. It looks like this could be part of an attempt by the rightwing to win over at least part of the black community via religion. There's nothing necessarily illegal about this. It's not necessarily even nefarious (unless the people involved are insincere). But it is something that needs to be countered lest blacks fall prey to the same dishonest linquistic and rhetorical tricks that so many whites have already succumbed to.

Great info on nurevelation. It was pretty obvious to me that it was all tangled up in this somehow. The fact that all of the domains at this IP address (and thus in the same physical location) seem to be religion related makes me think that nurevelation may be the owner, or at least the lessee, of that server. But it doesn't appear to be the case that nurevelation supports exclusively right-wing religious groups. pnbc.org (Progressive National Baptist Convention), for example, is on that server. At first I thought that they might be coopting the word "progressive" but, browsing that site, I found a page which condemns the current administration's attack on affirmative action and a resolution against the war in Iraq. So one might assume that nurevelation is a link, but an innocent link. However the domain name nurevelation.com shows "Odoom, T. Naomie" as both the administrative and technical contact, and John Odoom's senatorial website odoom4senate.com says that he is a partner with nurevelation.com. So it may be that nurevelation is complicit, but willing to accept business from wherever they can get it. This could show insincerity on the part of the Odooms, or it could simply show that they don't have total control over the decision making of the business. I will say that it strikes me as odd that his wife's name is used for the whois contacts. Could it be that the business is owned solely by them and that she is the other partner?

I'm not sure if there's anything in the ICDC connection. They may simply be leasing webspace on nurevelations servers, or nurevelation may have designed their website. It's common practice for a webspace or webdesign company to obtain, in their name, a domain for a client. So it may be nothing but it's definitely worth pursuing.

If you want another connection between the Odooms and Bishop Jackson then check this out: The domain odoom4senate.com resides at IP address 69.2.210.225. Other than the fact that the domain is registered to John Odoom, I can't find any obvious connection to nurevelation. However, residing at that same IP is the domain thehopeconnection.com. If you go to www.thehopeconnection.com you'll see a very slick multimedia opening and you'll see... Bishop Harry R. Jackson!

The fact that odoom4senate.com doesn't reside on the nurevelation IP seems odd at first glance, but it may have to do with legal requirements to seperate his business from his political campaign. But it does seem odd that Jackson is associated with both nurevelation (through himpactus.com) and whatever server odoom4senate.com is residing on. Hmmm...

[drm604]

13. To Everyone, thanks for waking this thread back up. Recommend This!

I'd been having some second thoughts about making all of this info too public just yet, but I'm thinking now that daylight is probably a good disinfectant for this rat's nest. We need one more recommendation to make the greatest page. 2 people, including me, have recommended it so far. We need at least 1 more!

[jim3775]

15. More,

This is a google satellite image of the spring forest road location.

Here is a job wanted ad from someone who worked at NuRevelation and was in the Air Force:
link

John Odoom lost his bid for state senate in a landslide.

Naomie Odoom seems to have attended the Governor's School a six week residential school for "gifted" high school students. She made an entry in the alumni association guestbook.

"Name: T. Naomie Lucas
Email:[e-mail]
Location: Raleigh, NC USA
Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 at 14:30:04
Comments:
I attended Governor's School East in the summer of 1987. I have since married and am now T. Naomie Odoom. I would love to hear from you so please drop a quick e-mail."



That Arthur Andersen email address is interesting.

I wonder what NuTract.com is?

[drm604]

16. Nutract

jim3775,
If you haven't recommended this thread yet, maybe you should. One more recommendation will get it onto the greatest page and it will get a lot more notice.
About nutract.com: Internet Archive has a http://www.nutract.com/">copy of that site from November 2002 which apparently is from before they required a login. If you go there and click on "step 1" it takes you to this page. Apparently it's meant for people to use to "evangalize" their friends or family by email. It looks like it generates automatic email proselytization based on the info you enter. I'm guessing that it was being abused in order to annoy people so they changed it to require a login. There's nothing questionable or political about it that I can see.

[drm604]

17. RE:More,

That guy's job description tells us that NuRevelation has (or at least had) a real functioning business location with employees, as opposed to being a server in someone's basement and a mail drop in some office complex.

I don't see anything really interesting in the Arthur Andersen address. It probably just means that she was an employee there at the time she made that guestbook entry. With Arthur Andersen being more or less defunct that address probably doesn't even work any more.

I'm a little uneasy about too much gratuitous prying into people's backgrounds and personal lives. I know that you thought that her email address might be of interest so posting that info is understandable. But let's just be careful about being to publicly intrusive without good reason. As yet, we don't even know for sure that these people are involved in anything that justifies uneccesary public exposure.

Bishop Jackson has apparently publicly supported Frist, that in itself is enough to put him on my sh*t list. But we don't know for sure that the Odoom's have anything more than a business relationship with Jackson. Of course John Odoom ran as a rightwing fundy, which is bad enough, but we don't know for sure that his wife even shares his beliefs.

[drm604]

18. We're not the first ones to notice Harry Jackson.

We're not the first ones to notice Harry Jackson.. On reflection, that makes sense. He can't have gotten important enough to rub elbows with Frisk without having made some waves. For example, this African American blog includes him in their "Negroes of Highest Dubiosity List" (scroll down on the right) along with people like Clarence Thomas and Kenneth Blackwell.

I think I'm going to back off on the Odooms for now and look around to see what other's may have already found out about Jackson.

[drm604]

19. Check out this article.

The African American community is on to these guys (it should have been obvious to me that they would be). This article doesn't mention Harry Jackson specifically, but it describes his ilk and how they fit in to the GOP plan.

The corporate-Republican onslaught against the Black Political Consensus, conceived in the war rooms of rightwing think tanks a decade ago, is in full fury. Massively financed by, first private, and now public dollars, the campaign to create the perception of an alternative, conservative Black “leadership” is on the march in all regions of the nation, sowing confusion and alarm among authentic African American political formations. As expected, the corporate media certified that the 22 bought-and-paid-for ministers and corporate front persons showcased at the White House last week were, indeed, “Black leaders.”...

[Cha]

23. I was thinking about this

rw jackson the other day and something popped in my head that said.."where would these suckers be if the Democrats hadn't stood along side their brethren and fought to give them the right to vote?

And affirmative action?

Is it me or are they traitors to their people and their Country?

[drm604]

20. Bishop Harry Jackson's "Black Contract With America"

From here:

Bishop Harry Jackson, from Hope Christian Church in College Park, Maryland, was Justice Sunday's only black speaker. Jackson had recently unveiled his "Black Contract With America," a document that highlights wedge issues like gay marriage that would presumably pry black churchgoers away from the Democratic Party. But so far he has been disappointed. "Black churches are too concerned with justice," Jackson lamented in his speech. Nonetheless, his association with the right wing has done wonders for his personal profile. Just after Bush's second inauguration, he was among a contingent of black clergy members invited to the White House for a private meeting.

I haven't been able to find the text of this so-called "black contract".

[Coexist]

22. let us know if you do.

I'd be interested in reading it.

[drm604]

21. More info

This article in The Free Press links together Ohio SOS J. Kenneth Blackwell and Rod Parsley (is that a real name?) pastor of the World Harvest Church. Interestingly enough, a Google search shows that Parsley and our friend Harry Jackson have worked together in the right wing religious community. In fact, they've appeared together in support of judicial nominee Janice Rogers Brown! Now this could be a six degrees of separation type of thing, but it all seems too coincidental. Why are there all of these connections between right wing African Americans (Parsley is white, but he's a connection) from Ohio, North Carolina, and Maryland? And why do the connections all seem to revolve around Fundie churches and, recently, judicial nominations, filibusters, and Bill Frist? Why does a black fundie Bishop of a Maryland church have websites that are connected to a right wing black North Carolina state Senatorial candidate? Are these all just true believers who've managed to bump into each other through their daily activities? Or has someone (cough*Rove*cough) brought them all together?
And what about separation of church and state?