Why don't Libertarians and other rightwingnuts get it?

[SHRED]

It's not the "government" that is the problem.
It's corporate special interest, which has bought our government from us, that is the problem.

[RandomKoolzip]

1. I know...they always decry "BIG GOVERNMENT..."

As if "BIG BUSINESS" isn't just as bad, if not much much worse.

And these days, they're indistinguishable.

[CWebster]

2. Because they worship the god of the marketplace

Mammon is their god and greed is good is their creed.

It is their religion.

[CityZen-X]

3. Corporate Nazi's

when the corporations control this so called government, it is a prerequisite towards fascism. These corporate criminals, and their Bu$h*t butt-puppets are truly the enemy of the people.

[Al-CIAda]

4. Real Libertarians 'get it' (illegal war & police state)

and say so. It is only the fake ones who want to be hip republicans who call themselves libertarian. Neil Boortz is a good example. What a dumbass.

[davepc]

5. Government is a problem, as it is right now.

The institutions in our government meant to be a regulatory hand on big business are rotten and inefficient and unable to do the jobs they were designed to do.

We live in a nation where the head of the FAA is chosen by the airlines, where the head of the FDA is chosen by the Pharmaceutical companies.

I wish it would be easy to just point to Republicans and blame them, but the truth is that this erosion of our trusted institutions of regulation has been going on for years, and didn't just start in 2000.

Since the very institutions designed to protect people are being de-facto run by those who wish to exploit people they are no longer part of the solution but part of the problem.

Its another symptom of the allegiances forged by the DLC in the past, and the Republicans sure haven't seen it in their best interests to change the current status-quo.

How can we tell people to trust government, when the parts of that government entrusted with looking out for their well being are simply willfully accessories and facilitators of cooperate interests?

What's Mussolini's definition of fascism again?

[Internut]

6. Do you like the "government" as it is now?

You don't? - then it is the government that is the problem.

If your argument is that you like the government only depending on who runs it, that is a pretty flimsy one. If the institution itself is oppressive, you cannot trust it only because you may trust the people who run it. Those people can be replaced, but the oppressive institution stays.

[ieoeja]

7. True! Look at how oppressed we are!

For example, there is ... um ... and ... er ....

[Internut]

8. Do you think it is "oppressive" that

the government has the power to take your money and spend it on a war that you don't approve of? I do.

Do you think it is "oppressive" that the government has the power to confiscate all your assets on an accusation and make you prove your innocence to get them back (see RICOH statutes)? I do.

Do you think it is "oppressive" that the government has censorship powers (FCC)? I do.

Do you think it is "oppressive" that the government has the power to tell you what you can or cannot eat, drink, or smoke (FDA/DEA)? I do.

etc. etc.

You can say - "yes, but that's because it is run by Republicans". And I say "no, it is because it HAS those powers. Who runs it is irrelevant - because tomorrow it will be someone else. But the powers stay."

[orwell]

9. Even Worse

"The US Government", at least for most of the 20th and all of the 21st century is in existence to enable US corporate power. Corporate power is the tool of private elite power.

Just about every government expenditure is directly linked to wealth transfer to the ruling elites. That is the dirty little secret.

That is why "the Government" is always growing, no matter which party is in charge. It is because it serves the interests of their masters, the global elites, who use it as their own private ATM card paying reliably and handsomely in blood-soaked profits.

The "big gubmint" spin is just well "strategerized" propaganda to shift mass anger from ongoing class/political inequities to the easy targets of "faceless bureaucracy."

Try this little factoid on for size: Close to 50% of GDP is directly attributable to federal, state, and local expenditures...50%!

And where does that money flow? You figure it out...