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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:51 AM
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We need to replace "Republican Moderates" with Democrats
I see all the ink about "swaying" the Republican moderates like Snowe, etc.... But a fact check will show at the last minute they never vote with the Democrats for anything. Jeffords was the only one with enough balls to do it, and that was after the *Shrubbies pissed him off on a personal matter.

We should nominate and run candidates...Moderates...That will beat them and if those seats were Democratic as they really should be it would be much less of a hassle.

Even the Repubs have figured this out, that is why Bill Nelson of Florida is their number one target.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:56 AM
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1. We should run Dems for EVERY seat!
But if we can't win them all, and realisticallly we can't, I'd dure rather have Snowe etc. there and defeat the Santorum's, DeLay's etc.
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Brianboru Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:57 AM
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2. Would you vote for the "moderate" JFK?
Edited on Sun May-22-05 09:57 AM by Brianboru
He cut taxes, called for smaller government(Ask not what your country can do for you...), and he unilaterally took on the Soviets over Cuba in a military action.

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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:02 AM
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3. He was to be my first Presidential vote in 64
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:12 AM
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5. what the hell are you talking about?
JFK was not a moderte REPUBLICAN.

:eyes:
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Brianboru Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:16 AM
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6. I know that. With his policies of cutting taxes, unilateral military
action and calls for smaller government, he seems more like a RW repub.

Could JFK get Democratic votes today?
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:22 AM
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7. I was just trying to understand ...
how this was relevant to electing Democrats to replace the so-called moderate gops.
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Brianboru Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:29 AM
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8. I'm wondering how we can reclaim the "middle" to win. Reagan
took the JFK majority. Clinton won these people with the promise of "the era of big government is over" How do we get these people back to the Democratic fold?

I'm tired of losing.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 08:26 AM
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20. Self-delete. I have no time for HF talking points. nt
Edited on Mon May-23-05 08:28 AM by blondeatlast
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 08:21 AM
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17. You've been listening to way too much Repub propaganda...
Take a break from Limbaugh and Hannity.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 08:23 AM
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18. please, Nixon could get Democratic votes today...
the pendulum is WAY out of whack to the right, not to the left.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:38 PM
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12. I think that taxes were still ridiculously high from the new deal era
Edited on Sun May-22-05 12:38 PM by Hippo_Tron
JFK was also a self proclaimed "liberal" and proposed many social programs under the "New Frontier".
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Meeker Morgan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:10 AM
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4. We also need to replace ...
"Moderate" Democrats with Democrats.

Lieberman, for example.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:45 AM
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9. If you didn't see Kennedy then you can be excused
for your statement about him being rw. He inspired people to do well. Ike was such a loser that he just made things sound great.
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Brianboru Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:19 PM
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10. Camelot and the Bushies: Some Disturbing Parallels
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Brianboru Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:24 PM
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11. And another one saying JFK is more like Bush
"Columnist Yoni Rubin wrote, "if John F. Kennedy were alive today, he wouldn't be voting for Kerry," in "John F. Kerry is no John F. Kennedy," (Sept. 1, The Daily Targum). He went on to describe what he saw as the big differences between the two men on three issues: taxes, pre-emptive strikes and their relationships with the left. While I think it is an exercise in futility for Rubin to try to convince Rutgers students that it is in their best interests to vote for George W. Bush, the record must be set straight.

Rubin first claims Kennedy's tax policies are more like Bush's than Sen. John Kerry's. Kennedy believed in Keynesian economics, which proposes the government can spur the economy by lowering taxes, increasing spending and lowering the interest rate. This was the economic theory behind the New Deal. When conservatives cite Kennedy's tax cut as an example of great economic policy, they fail to mention the tax cut was coupled with increased spending. They also fail to mention Kennedy's tax cuts were not intended to give millionaires an extra ivory backscratcher; they were intended to put money in the hands of those who need it most."

full story at:

http://www.dailytargum.com/media/paper168/news/2004/09/03/Opinions/A.Second.Look.At.Casting.Jfks.Vote-710166.shtml
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 08:23 AM
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19. Just because Kennedy would cut taxes to 70% for the wealthy...
does not mean he would cut taxes to 28%....otherwise, he would have asked that taxes been cut to 28% back then. The difference is the same as the difference between chicken salad and chicken shit.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 03:18 PM
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14. We need to replace Democrats who want to replace Democrats
with other Democrats with Democrats who want to replace Republicans with Democrats.

What a mouthful.

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Mitt Chovick Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 01:26 PM
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13. But the DLC err DNC will give free passes to
Snowe and Chaffee, or so I fear.

These are seats we could win with a half decent candidates.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 08:00 AM
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16. Snowe consistently wins with about 60%
And this has been against formidable Democratic opposition. It'll will be hard to defeat her but there are candidates in the running.
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Mitt Chovick Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:32 AM
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21. Well this time she might be in trouble
The wingers are having kittens over the compromise.
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Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 03:26 PM
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15. moderates is the answer
Here in Fla, Nelson has not done a bad job... but you are right.. we doo need moderates in our party..

I think thats what has happeend to us as a party.. Clinton brought us soo much success running as a moderate, and once he was gone, our party just dropped the "moderate" label and ran on a liberal..."progressive platform.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:41 AM
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22. I agree
The Rethugs are playing a ruff game these days. Any republican that looks weak moderate or not the dems need to fight hard to take their seat.
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