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carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 01:44 PM
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Crazy letter in my local paper!
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14569096&BRD=2271&PAG=461&dept_id=462943&rfi=6

I HAVE to write a response to this!

"Stand up for Christianity


This Nation needs to start standing up for Christianity as I did a few months ago to get 100 signatures on letters to send to the President regarding getting Bible study, prayers and the Ten Commandments back in schools. All these signatures came from people in the Tri-Cities and local surrounding areas of Petersburg.

I would love for others to do the same thing, sending letters to the President, senators and congressmen trying to persuade them to see the need to stand up for Christianity.

I say a prayer every day that all the leaders of his nation will see the need to look to the almighty God for leadership and guidance and let the almighty God direct our leaders as to what they should be doing.

I firmly believe that we are not standing up for "One Nation Under God" the way we should, especially, since we have so many foreigners coming in from all over the world that don't believe in Christianity. Isn't that the main reason this nation was established in the first place, simply because the founders could not worship the almighty God in Europe and other countries the way they felt they should be doing?

We really need to get the teaching of the holy Bible back in the schools. I truly don't believe that we would have so many teenagers involved in murders, sex, drugs and alcohol if they were being taught today like we were in the early 1900s and even before the 1900s.

I fully believe that we need to impeach all the liberal judges, especially those that are put into office for a lifetime. I don't believe we should ever give a judge a position for a lifetime. I believe that makes them think they have the authority to take over and rule everything instead of considering the right way to handle our morals, sovereignty, religious beliefs and anything else.

Why is it that the federal judges are getting information from foreign countries and trying to follow their rules and beliefs rather than standing up for the American citizens? Just like the death penalty, the Bible states in Exodus chapter 21, verse 12 "He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death". All teenagers even if they are not 18 years old, know they should not be committing murder.

I firmly believe if we would start again, handling the murderers in the courtyard where the citizens could see what to expect if they commit murder, we would have a lot less murdering going on in this nation.

I think President Bush is interested in getting this nation back under Christianity as well as other countries. He is certainly a much better leader than past President Clinton was.

May almighty God bless this nation."
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 01:58 PM
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1. What a moran!
Can I cherry pick a couple of rebuttals?

"Isn't that the main reason this nation was established in the first place, simply because the founders could not worship the almighty God in Europe and other countries the way they felt they should be doing? "

No...our forefathers came to this country for freedom of religion.
This means to worship who you want, when you want, and if you want.
Hard for someone like this to understand that there are hundreds if not thousands of religions in the world.
Put it like this, Bush is a Christian. You have no problem worshipping his God, but what if our next President is Jewish?
Will you have a hard time having the fact that Jesus was NOT your saviour shoved down your throat?

"I firmly believe if we would start again, handling the murderers in the courtyard where the citizens could see what to expect if they commit murder, we would have a lot less murdering going on in this nation."

Wrong...again. It would mean there would be double the murders. The ones they killed...and the ones you advocated being killed.


What a dumbass. Good luck with your letter.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 02:04 PM
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2. When was Bible study ever in the schools?
There was a little bit of prayer, maybe some Ten Commandments, but there wasn't ever any Bible study in public schools.

What an asshole.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 02:06 PM
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3. YOU ARE WRONG!
On Little House on the Prairie I distinctly remember Laura Ingalls having a bible tucked under her primer.:evilgrin:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 03:19 PM
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9. Well slap me!
:evilgrin:

I'd forgotten that ever since Ronald Raygun we've been living in Hollywood, not the real world.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 02:29 PM
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4. Let's have the Jesuits teach Bible study
I had one as a religion teacher in high school (okay, not in the States, but still), and boy, can they rip the Old Testament to shreds! Murder, adultery, all kinds of stuff going on if you read between the lines, yeah baby!

Nothing like a professional iconoclast to deconstruct the bad parts of the Book. :P
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 02:57 PM
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6. Well...early on in our history, the 'public' schools were essentially run
Edited on Sun May-22-05 02:58 PM by mcscajun
by...Protestants. The Catholic school system came into being as a reaction against this. More religion went on in public schools at that time than anyone these days is aware of.

http://www.catholicleague.org/research/schoolfunding.htm

I'm against religion of any kind in public schools, btw.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 03:18 PM
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8. Thanks for the clarification
Edited on Sun May-22-05 03:19 PM by wryter2000
Were the Protestant schools paid for by tax money?

I went to an Episcopal school until fifth grade, and we had Bible study starting in third grade. I'm fine with Bible study in private schools.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 05:09 PM
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11. It was the public school system way back...dunno what the financing was.
I'm a survivor of the Catholic school system, myself.
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publius_jr Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 02:35 PM
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5. Jesus!
This style of writing would receive a perfect score on the new SAT writing section. It abounds in style, tone, confidence, & verbosity. It boasts a nice overall structure. Alas, it lacks just valid logic & true premises, which, according to the NYT my dear reader, are convieniently ignored on our new tests for writing proficiency.

Logical flaws:
1. Death penalty:
a) Jesus & killing...hmmm?
b) If all killers should be killed, then should not the killers of the killers be killed, ad infinitum, so that the earth shall be perished of her people by a single instance of murder (save for the last (wo)man, whom I suppose Time will have to slay?
c) What relevance does the Bible have in American law?
2. Founding fathers' beliefs:
a) They were students of the Enlightenment, a rather dramatic swing against the religious extremism advocated by our 800-scoring writer & his dear pResident. Confer Mr. Thomas Paine's Age of Reason.
b) As mentioned by the Nameless Horse, the Pilgrims sought religious freedom & tolerance, not a mandated & ubiquotous Christianity.
...
& many, many more!

I'm upset that our newspapers, by publishing this incoherent B.S., and our schools, by, e.g., not penalizing ignorance of facts on SAT-writing, are encouraging well-structured, confident writing/thought that lack soundness & validity. Perfect for the broadcasters & drone-listeners of a brainwashed tomorrow.

And let God piss on our great nation, which is greater than He, for He does not exist with certainty unless you manipulate the definition of Him, in which case we are worshiping a great physical Universe or something, which has no pissing power so we will be dry anyway.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 03:01 PM
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7. Nice prose.
I look forward to more postings from you.
Welcome to DU.:hi:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 03:21 PM
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10. Welcome
Yes, indeed. Well done. :hi:
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