Can anyone hear the yeas and nays on cloture - Now c-span?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

[Nordmadr]

1. not really

[Nite Owl]

Think they are doing the roll call

then the vote. Yes, I can hear it.

[Rainscents]

2. Is this a tread for Bolton Cloture?

[housewolf]

3. No, can't hear them...

every once in a while I catch one but too many are not picked up by the microphones

[tkmorris]

4. Not very well. no

But it seems that cloture will pass. Sounded like Byrd voted aye, as did Clinton.

On edit: I was totally wrong, both Byrd and Clinton apparently voted no. That'll teach me. Sorry all.

[Rainscents]

7. What is yea mean regard to Cloture?

Is this mean, they want to turn Bolton down?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. aye means you want to stop talking and vote. no means keep on

debating. Dems want information that state is stonewalling wont give - more bad stuff about bolton

[Rainscents]

55. Thank you!

[housewolf]

25. A vote for cloture

is to end the debate and then vote for the nomination

A "no" vote for cloture allows more debate and delays the vote - that's what the Dems want so they can keep trying to get the info on the NSA intercepts from the State Dept

[Rainscents]

58. Thank you!

[Az_lefty]

5. nope...not sure how it's going

:shrug:

[xultar]

8. limiting debate i think

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. no it is on cloture - I heard no - which wouldn't be for "present"?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. they need 60 yeas

to continue the debate. this is indicative of the real vote for the bastard

[Rainscents]

14. Republicans need 60 votes for Bolton?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. 60 for cloture

[Goldeneye]

10. Wouldn't one victory be nice?

Feinstein...no. Excellent.

[Pirate Smile]

13. She voted against cloture? Thank goodness.

[kris10ep]

WOW!!!

Liberman No.

[Goldeneye]

15. lieberman no

reed (sp.?) of RI ...no.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. Yes -- HOORAY, looks like Dems sticking together - finally

even Joe Momentum !

[Zen Democrat]

11. No doubt they'll get cloture. -- Oops, I'm changing my mind!

Even Feinstein and Lieberman voted NO. That was unexpected.

[Nite Owl]

16. Leiberman too

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. they need 60 ayes -- right ???

[POAS]

35. Yes, 60 ayes closes debate

[cindyw]

12. Lieberman no

[LittleClarkie]

20. Two cookies for Joe

One for Owen
One for today

[Goldeneye]

18. did byrd vote no?

[globalvillage]

22. I thought I heard Byrd NO.

[Goldeneye]

27. I thought I read it in this thread

but then I was looking and couldn't find it.
Nelson of NE aye...buttmunch.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. Landreu (sp?) Aye -- What a dissapointment

[tkmorris]

29. Yep, I heard it wrong

Byrd voted no.

[Zen Democrat]

21. The Dems look happier than the Pukes.

Maybe they are all just amazed at Lieberman!

[Pirate Smile]

51. They sure do.

[Goldeneye]

I don't think they're going to get cloture.

:bounce:

[Az_lefty]

26. doesn't look like it...one small victory would be nice.

[FrenchieCat]

30. Teeny weeny....

BUT I'LL TAKE IT!

[Nordmadr]

37. That would just be crushing for Bolton's chances! Poor little Bushy

[unfrigginreal]

24. Woo-Hoo! Jeffords NO!

[Zen Democrat]

32. Mrs. CLinton -- NO

[Coexist]

33. I am dying....

in my best Bill the Cat voice "ACK!"

I can't hear.... please keep me updated!

[Pirate Smile]

34. Are Reid and Durbin getting good at whipping votes?

I just heard Andrea Mitchell say that Feinstein is becoming increasingly alienated from the Hard Right Wing leadership of the Republicans in the Senate. Feinstein voted with the Repubs on something and afterward said "she'd never do that again".

I hope the Dem moderates are getting alienated from the Right, not the left.

MSNBC is having a special Hardball. I'm flipping between it and C-span2.

[Nite Owl]

36. Ok so we lost two

Nelson and Landrieu? Pick up Jeffords (of course) and Voinovich?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. Repug Nelson? Dem Nelson?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

43. repug nelson - aye

[Goldeneye]

47. Aren't they both dems?

[Nite Owl]

46. Ben Nelson

think he still has a D after his name. He's quickly replacing old Zell though.

[Goldeneye]

38. Wow, the democrats are sticking together.

The pubs need to pick off three more dems.

[Zen Democrat]

39. The Pukes are looking grim.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

41. dont ya love it.

[Coexist]

44. Mr. Nelson of Florida - NO

Thank goodness Florida can sometimes do something right.

[Zen Democrat]

42. Nelson of Florida -- NO

[Goldeneye]

45. delete....

[Coexist]

50. what's the count? Anyone know?

[POAS]

59. she should start reading names soon

get ready to count

[cindyw]

48. well everyoine was hoping for a filibuster. Isn't this a filibuster?

nt

[Jack Rabbit]

52. Yes, this is a filibuster

You'd better believe it.

[Goldeneye]

53. I was wondering the same thing.

Maybe its different because they're just holding out for those documents ?:shrug:

[Zen Democrat]

54. This is a good old-fashioned filibuster.

Just not a "judicial" filibuster.

[Nordmadr]

56. 41 votes is what we need right?...and then it is a filibuster. N/T

[Nite Owl]

Heard Kerry before on the floor

and he said that this wasn't a filibuster they would vote once they got the information that was asked for.

[housewolf]

63. The difference is that the intent is to not stop the vote forever

but to delay it while continuting to try to get the NSA intercepts info from the State Dept


We're not stopping the nomination with this cloture vote

[Zen Democrat]

49. Mr. Rockefeller - NO

[Laura PourMeADrink]

57. Not good -- no repugs turning -- that means when and if the vote

does come, the creep will get in.

[Zen Democrat]

65. What vote? This is a F***ing Filibuster!!!!

[Pirate Smile]

60. Current NO's

No

Akaka
Bayh
Biden
Bingaman
Boxer
Cantwell
Carper
Clinton
Conrad
Corzine
Dayton
Dodd
Dorgan
Durbin
Feinstein
Jeffords
Kennedy
Kerry
Kohl
Lautenberg
Leahy
Levin
Lieberman
Mikulski
Murray
Nelson, Bill
Obama
Reed
Reid
Rockefeller
Sarbanes
Schumer
Stabenow
Voinovich

34 here, I think

[lonestarnot]

69. Did they get cloture?

[Pirate Smile]

74. still voting

[Zen Democrat]

70. DELETED

[Goldeneye]

61. Snowe ...aye.

moderate...nay.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

64. Voinovitch WWOOOOWW

[cestpaspossible]

68. How did he vote?

[Rainscents]

78. He voted NO!!!!!!!!!

[cestpaspossible]

135. I think you heard wrong, others are saying he voted aye

done deal now anyway...

[Zen Democrat]

62. Ted Kennedy looking over the rail. Taking it all in. Kerry joining him.

[housewolf]

66. We only need a total of 41 votes..

They need 60...

[Vadem]

67. I count we're up to 35 now, with Lincoln's no.....n/t

[Goldeneye]

71. I don't know that it matters how many we get.

They need to get 60 though.

[lonestarnot]

75. still counting I guess.... Which I could see.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

77. Chaffee voted no ???

[cindyw]

72. do we need 40 or do they need 60?

[housewolf]

80. We need 41, they need 60 n/t

[tkmorris]

82. They need 60

We need 41.

[cestpaspossible]

83. They need 60 ayes to invoke cloture and stop debate nt

[Nordmadr]

73. Do a little dance...

make a little love...get down tonight...dooooo....ddooooooo....ddddooooooo

Filibuster...good....mmmmmm..... :)

Olaf

[Hand]

76. Baucus--NO 36

[housewolf]

79. Here's the current tally

Yes --

Alexander
Allen
Allard
Baccus
Burns
Chafee
Coburn
Chandliss
Cochran
Coleman
Craig
Crapo
Dole
Enzi
Frist
Grassley
Hagel
Hatch
Inhofe
Kyl
Landrieu
Lott
Lugar
Martinez
McConnell
Nelson, Ben
Roberts
Santorum
Sessions
Shelby
Snowe
Stevens
Talent
Thune
Warner

No

Akaka
Bayh
Biden
Bingaman
Boxer
Cantwell
Carper
Clinton
Conrad
Corzine
Dayton
Dodd
Dorgan
Durbin
Feinstein
Jeffords
Kennedy
Kerry
Kohl
Lautenberg
Leahy
Levin
Lieberman
Lincoln
Mikulski
Murray
Nelson, Bill
Obama
Reed
Reid
Rockefeller
Sarbanes
Schumer
Stabenow
Voinovich

[Pirate Smile]

81. Wussie Thune voted for cloture.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

88. So his base will probably stay open now, huh

[Laura PourMeADrink]

89. so far only one repug - Voinovitch, Right

[Pirate Smile]

99. Ha ha. Good joke.

:thumbsup:

[Zen Democrat]

84. Baucus was NO; Harken is NO

[housewolf]

87. Harken no, Salazar no

I think that gets us up to 37, if I counted right

[Pirate Smile]

85. Dems have 41 - we won this one

[Zen Democrat]

86. Salazar -- NOOOOOO

[Laura PourMeADrink]

92. Pryor Aye ? WTF???

[Zen Democrat]

90. Are Landrieu and Ben Nelson our only turncoats?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

96. isn't Pryor a dem from Ark ? voted aye.

[FrenchieCat]

98. yep!

Reid looking at Pryor like the asshole that Pryor is.

[FrenchieCat]

97. No....

I think Pryor just voted Aye! He's more of an asshole than I though!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

106. maybe it was some deal from when he was part of that compromise group

[cindyw]

91. I thought these votes were supposed to be 15 minutes

[Nordmadr]

95. Yeah, no kidding...I got shit to do...come on people!!

:)

Olaf

[Goldeneye]

93. So, we need to write this victory down and remember it.

Because this doesn't happen very often anymore and because our guys did a good job sticking together.

[Rainscents]

94. What the hell is going on???

[POAS]

100. I only count 38 so far

[POAS]

112. 37 now

[Nordmadr]

102. Voinovich just chnaged his vote I think to Aye!

[FrenchieCat]

105. Are you sure?

Voinovich just changed his vote. Now that's the biggest asshole of them all....him AND his tears!

[Zen Democrat]

101. Voinovich AYE?????

[ktowntennesseedem]

108. Yeah, I heard that too WTF?

[Rainscents]

WTF??? Serious?

[Goldeneye]

111. Not only did he cry on the senate floor,

he then allowed himself to be cowed. So much for standing up for what you believe in Voino.

[Goldeneye]

103. Did Voino just change his vote?

WTF?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

113. she just said frist NO

[POAS]

127. I heard that also, I thought I had an auditory hallucination

[POAS]

104. They got to voinovich

[housewolf]

107. Voinovich - AYE??? What happened???? n/t

[FrenchieCat]

110. His tears were FAKE. That's what!

[Nite Owl]

109. What was that?

Voinovich---AYE?????

[Az_lefty]

114. yep, sounds like they got to him and he changed it.

[Nordmadr]

FRIST NO!!!! ?????????

[Laura PourMeADrink]

118. ALLL RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK FRIST

[Zen Democrat]

115. Mr. Frist ... No??? WTF Was that a mistake?

[Jack Rabbit]

122. It's a proceduaral tactic

It allows him to bring the matter up again later.

[Rainscents]

125. WTF??? Serious?

I am fucking lost!!! :wtf:

[FrenchieCat]

116. Frist - NO? WTF???

Frist wants to spin the loss?

So he jumps in with his NO.....then he can spin it.

[LeftofU]

117. Did Frist just vote No?

[Az_lefty]

119. We WON !!!!!!

56 - 42 they needed 60 for cloture.

[Rainscents]

120. So, what the hell is going on???

[Laura PourMeADrink]

121. what the hell is happening ??

[Laura PourMeADrink]

123. So we really have 41, which is enough, right. so they are going

to arm twist. We need to get our arm twisters out

[Pirate Smile]

124. Here are the final numbers and how people voted.- whoops, it isn't right

Because Frist voted NO.
Yes -- 56 votes

Alexander
Allen
Allard
Burns
Chafee
Coburn
Chandliss
Cochran
Coleman
Collins
Craig
Crapo
Dole
Domenici
Enzi
Frist
Grassley
Hagel
Hatch
Inhofe
Kyl
Landrieu
Lott
Lugar
Martinez
McCain
McConnell
Nelson, Ben
Pryor
Roberts
Santorum
Sessions
Shelby
Snowe
Stevens
Talent
Thune
Voinovich
Warner

No -- 42 votes

Akaka
Baucus
Bayh
Biden
Bingaman
Boxer
Cantwell
Carper
Clinton
Conrad
Corzine
Dayton
Dodd
Dorgan
Durbin
Feinstein
Harkin
Jeffords
Kennedy
Kerry
Kohl
Lautenberg
Leahy
Levin
Lieberman
Lincoln
Mikulski
Murray
Nelson, Bill
Obama
Reed
Reid
Rockefeller
Salazar
Sarbanes
Schumer
Stabenow
Wyden

[Blue_In_AK]

130. Looks like Lisa Murkowski

picked an opportune moment to be out of Washington, DC. Maybe it's all just a little too messy for her moderate sensibilities. :sarcasm:

[POAS]

132. this list NOT correct. she definately listed Frist....no...last vote

[Pirate Smile]

143. Sorry. I got it from Steve Clemen's The Washington Note and

I can't find a full, correct listing now.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/

Did Frist change his vote or just wait until the very end so he knew what the numbers were?

[POAS]

145. I understand it to be procedural

so he could, as he did, call for a reconsideration of the vote.

[Zen Democrat]

126. Reid saying intent not to filibuster, but to get the information.

The point is ..... Condi is NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION.

The Administration won't budge. The Dems won't budge. The Dems are semantically putting the ball in the White House's court -- and they won't release this stuff on Bolton -- EVER.

This is a big victory tonight.

C-Span was showing that message that a vote on Bolton would come immediately after the cloture vote. HA HA HA

[housewolf]

128. WE WON IT!!!!!

Hooray!!! Hooray!!!!



:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Rainscents]

137. Ok... Can I celebrate now? Is it safe to celebrate??? I was too confused

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:

[housewolf]

139. Yeah -- We won it!!! It's over for now

It will be back in 2 or 3 weeks.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

129. FY Frist What a Whiner !!! blah blah blah

[Dudley_DUright]

131. Steve Clemons (WashingtonNote) has final vote

Yes -- 56 votes

Alexander
Allen
Allard
Burns
Chafee
Coburn
Chandliss
Cochran
Coleman
Collins
Craig
Crapo
Dole
Domenici
Enzi
Frist
Grassley
Hagel
Hatch
Inhofe
Kyl
Landrieu
Lott
Lugar
Martinez
McCain
McConnell
Nelson, Ben
Pryor
Roberts
Santorum
Sessions
Shelby
Snowe
Stevens
Talent
Thune
Voinovich
Warner

No -- 42 votes

Akaka
Baucus
Bayh
Biden
Bingaman
Boxer
Cantwell
Carper
Clinton
Conrad
Corzine
Dayton
Dodd
Dorgan
Durbin
Feinstein
Harkin
Jeffords
Kennedy
Kerry
Kohl
Lautenberg
Leahy
Levin
Lieberman
Lincoln
Mikulski
Murray
Nelson, Bill
Obama
Reed
Reid
Rockefeller
Salazar
Sarbanes
Schumer
Stabenow
Wyden

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000668.html

[Laura PourMeADrink]

134. Where's Icaka (sp?)

[Hand]

138. Akaka voted no

[Laura PourMeADrink]

141. Thanks for the spelling !

[Laura PourMeADrink]

140. those totals aren't right

[POAS]

142. The list only has 38 names voting NO

List is incomplete at best

[Az_lefty]

133. Frist is quacking like a filibuster...

what a shit.

[housewolf]

136. Bryd didn't vote... anybody notice that?? n/t

[Hand]

144. This was the right thing to do

It's another shot across the empire's bow--QUIT FUCKING WITH US! Reid summed it up well and calmly: We did not get the information, Frist couldn't get the information, we have important legislation to consider.

Wyden coming on right after with bipartisan legislation on pharmaceutical costs was a smart move as well.

All in all, a good win. Not a big win, not an outright NO on Bolton, but sure as hell a stand against Chimpy's grasp at dictatorship. Also official notice that the judicial compromise was NOT to be taken as surrender.
:applause:

[Singular73]

146. Wrong: Huge Win

Frist has been officially castrated.

[Hand]

150. I hope you're not looking for an argument!

Huge win works for me, too! :hi:

[dogonarug]

147. Who thinks bolton will withdraw?

Now that the Dems have stuck together to demand the info. The only face saving move for bushco is for bolton to withdraw.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

148. do you know what the info is about ? him twisting intelligence arms?

[dogonarug]

149. If he withdraws...

It's some nasty shit!!!