NO CLOTURE! Vote done....some surprises:

[wildflower]

Some surprises:

Frist voted no, Voinovich voted Yea, Lieberman and Feinstein voted No.

I'm stunned.

[cestpaspossible]

1. Go DEMS!

nice to win even a small skirmish once in a while...

[dhinojosa]

2. So the stalling for more info is in process?

That way we can get all information?

[wildflower]

6. I guess so...

Still can't believe some of the votes! (E.g. see my edited post above.)

Frist?

[Mr.Green93]

3. Woo! Hoo!

Hey pugs, how does it feel to be owned?

[Windy]

5. I don't get the Frist vote

Was it a mistake? Weird

[wildflower]

10. He's speaking now...CSPAN2 n/t

[TheFarseer]

12. Does he not think the votes are there yet?

you know, before the arm twisting?

[No Michael Savage]

49. Frist's vote was no mistake

He voted yes at the beginning and switched his vote to no at the end. What he did was clever. See to make a motion to reconsider, you have to be on the winning side of a cloture vote. When Frist saw that they didn't have the 60 votes needed, he switched his vote so he could make the motion to reconsider.

I think it is WAY to early to celebreate, this only delays Bolton, and the democrats (for whatever reason) said they're not going to filibuster him in the future. We still need to make phone calls and do whatever it takes to sway undecideds to our side so that when the inevitable up-or-down vote on Bolton comes, we can get the 51 votes needed to stop him.

[Mr.Green93]

14. It's procedural

so he can call another vote.

[cascadiance]

30. Just as how Kerry's votes were "procedural"

when he was described as first voting yes, and then voting no.

We can nail Frist with the same confusion when campaigning against him!

First he voted No, and then he voted Yes!

What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

[Career Prole]

39. Good one! n/t

[Coexist]

4. YES!!!!!

[Kazak]

7. Wheeeee!!!

:D

[Windy]

8. Ok, now frist is saying that he is dissappointed

what????????????????? now he's accusing the dems of a pseudo fillibuster when he voted no???

[wildflower]

15. "It quacks like a filibuster"?

[wildflower]

18. And Reid just now essentially agreed with him, called this a filibuster...

"the first of the year."

[annabanana]

9. Whoa there ponies...!

Why would Frist vote AGAINST cloture? What's going on? Did the balance tip against him or what?

[babylonsister]

11. I'm stunned and amazed!! Go, DEMS! YEAH!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[cally]

13. Another post in a different thread

says that Frist has to vote no so he can ask for reconsideration.

[wildflower]

17. He just spoke and said that this vote...

shows to America the obstructionists they are, etc. So maybe that's why he did it.

-wildflower

[Jack Rabbit]

16. Frist voting Nay is a procedural tactic

It will allow him to bring the matter up for a vote at a later date.

Voting Nay when his side is losing is part of his job.

[Coexist]

21. thanks for the lesson - good to know.

[wildflower]

26. Thank you. And based on his short speech afterwards,

it sounds like he wants to use this to bring back the filibuster fight as soon as possible.

-wildflower

[pinto]

28. You got it. We have a win here. Frist did what he had to do on losing.

That's why he voted near the end.

[Coexist]

19. What's up with the Voinovich - Frist thing?

I sorta get that Voinovich wanted to get the vote over with. But Frist??????? Was that wrong.

[Zen Democrat]

20. Norah O'Donnell on MSNBC says Defeat for White House

This won't be revisited until after Senate recess.

[bunny planet]

22. maybe they'll try and get him in during the Senate recess. Didn't they do

that already last year for something. Some sort of loophole.

Zero trust in anything the Republicans do obviously.

[babylonsister]

24. Absolutely it is! Every talking head I listened to

today thought Bolton had it in the bag. Ha! Take that!! Wheeee!

[wildflower]

29. I admit I did too, though I was trying to be optimistic.

[babylonsister]

36. Oh, me too, especially after listening

to the talking heads! :crazy: I'm glad the Dems were so impassioned and didn't give up!

[wildflower]

46. Luckily I didn't hear them today...

I was glued to CSPAN :)

-wildflower

[Zen Democrat]

23. Tweety saying Mitch McConnell can't count votes. HA HA HA

[sendero]

25. Congratulations are in order...

.. to the Dems in the senate who made this happen!

[wildflower]

27. Absolutely. This should be on the Greatest page! (hint, hint :)

To everyone: :toast:

:party:
:bounce:

-wildflower

(ON EDIT: Never mind about the Greatest Page; LBN article on this is there now.)

[FrenchieCat]

31. K...K.....

:thumbsup: (got it!)

[wildflower]

35. LOL, thank you FrenchieCat

I am so shameless, I know :blush:

[AmBlue]

37. Absolutely!!!! Not a good day for the THUGS!!!

YEEEE-HHHAAAAAWWWW!!! :bounce:

[Rainscents]

32. I didn't get the frist vote, non the less...................GO DEMS!!!

:party: :toast: :bounce: :kick: :grouphug: :woohoo: :applause:

[wildflower]

33. Dems who voted Aye:

Landrieu
Nelson of NE

Was there another one?

-wildflower

[Rainscents]

34. Byrd didn't vote.... Don't get this.

[wildflower]

38. But I thought I heard that the vote is mandatory? n/t

[POAS]

42. What is mandatory is a roll call vote....no voice vote

[Rainscents]

43. Yea, I thought that too.

[housewolf]

47. Neither did Specter

they said on Hardball he had left for PA prior to the vote taking place

[Mass]

53. Byrd voted NO, it is Inouye who did not vote.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00129

Landrieu has a statement on her website saying if their is a upordown vote, she will vote NO on the confirmation of Bolton.

[ticapnews]

44. Mark Pryor

[wildflower]

45. Oh, Pryor! Right! Thank you!

Dem from Arkansas.

[laugle]

40. Yea, all DU'ers pat yourselves on the back!!

We're gaining momentum, keep up the good work!!!

[Singular73]

Its not about momentum

Two things:

1) This was discussed with the Magnificent 7. They knew this would happen earlier this week.

2) Old school conservatives don't want another war. Voting for Bolton is a vote for war.

[Singular73]

41. Double post

x

[bvar22]

48. Democrats who voted WITH the Republicans:

Ben Nelson, U.S. Senator, NE member of DLC

Mary Landrieu, U.S. Senator, LA member DLC

Mark Pryor, U.S. Senator, AR member DLC


http://www.ndol.org/new_dem_dir_action.cfm

[mzmolly]

51. Thankfully only 3.

Doesn't excuse their votes however.

[0007]

52. Assholes!

[wildflower]

50. Link to the roll call (thank you to dweller!):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1812822