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SoCalifer Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:39 PM
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I have a confession
A few years ago I use to be a wingnut........not an extreme one.....but enough of one to be a nut.

I never mentioned it here on the DU. Mostly due to being ashamed that I allowed myself to fall for their traps. I should of been more aware - shame on me.

But when I started to pay closer ATTENTION to things, my gross error was obvious.

So here I am. And I am glad..


:dem:

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:40 PM
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1. Welcome to the Reality based community.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:43 PM
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2. Good for you... You were a thinking person, obviously!
Welcome! Like Clinton stated... when you think, you vote democrat!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:43 PM
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3. Welcome! We're glad to have you.
Amazing what you learn when you start to pay attention, huh?

One by one is how we will take back our country.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:45 PM
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4. i posted elsewhere, it is getting easier
i talk to republicans now and so often will mention something they dont know about. it has gotten to the point where i can just say, you do not know, you are uninformed. adn they do not argue. they know they do not know what is going on anymore. they are becoming much more receptive. and i am not about winning losing, i am informing
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SoCalifer Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:01 PM
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5. Thanks guy/gals
And yes, when you pay attention, the choice is so obvious.

If you don't care about the U.S. Constitution, and all you care about is accumulating more and more and more wealth "off the backs" of other people - then your choice is Republican.

If you're a human being, care about the U.S. Constitution, care about right & wrong, care about the future, and realize that if everybody's wealth is raised, it raises yours as well, making a lot less friction between people and a much more pleasant world. - then your choice is Democrate.


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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:08 PM
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6. Anyone With The republicans Can Not Be Paying Attention Or....
....they are just too damn stupid to know the difference. Glad you saw the light and that you are here, we need more converts like yourself for the cause.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:14 PM
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7. Well we should examine you
Tell us how you dealt with information that was anti-bush or anti-war. Did you just not believe it?

You are a valuable resource here and I'm not being mean. You could teach us something.


Oh and don't worry, I was a registered Republican for years. Why? because my parents were and I never paid attention either. I think it was the 2000 election that really got me involved. Everything before that is kind of a blur.

:toast:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:31 PM
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8. care to share
what openned your eyes? That is always informative in helping us figure out what to push on when talking to moderates who have not yet woken up from the haze.
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NYdemocrat089 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:42 PM
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9. The important thing is that you realized what was going on...
Don't be ashamed.

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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:38 PM
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10. Congratulations on waking up
We're just glad that you woke up and started thinking for yourself. We're thrilled that you found your way here and look forward to hearing lots more from you.

Don't beat yourself up too bad over your past. The GOP concept of "me and mine only" has a strong appeal, is self-reinforcing in terms of keeping people lulled into a trance of sorts. The intense adreneline release of righteousness is a powerful drug.

The GOP is a cult. It requires loyalty to the president and to the group above all else but disguises that fact behind the image of "principles." As you can see this week, they prefer to excuse all sorts of illegalities in deference to blind loyalty.

So rather than being ashamed of where you were in the past, I suggest that you take pride in the fact that you were strong enough and wise enough to break out of their traps and find your own way. Take heart in the knowledge that you not only survived the incultation and lived to tell about it but that you've learned and carry that learning forward in your life.


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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:48 PM
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11. Same here
My views began shifting leftward around 1998-99, but I couldn't let go fully until Bush got the nomination in 2000. I didn't trust him from the first time I heard him speak. Voted for Gore, and haven't looked back.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:50 PM
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12. Looking In The Mirror And Not Liking What You See...
Is very probably the best self-analysis you can do!

I fervently wish we will have a renewed epiphany!
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SoCalifer Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:52 PM
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13. Thank you again guys/gals.. I think you're all great..
"Tell us how you dealt with information that was anti-bush or anti-war. Did you just not believe it?

You are a valuable resource here and I'm not being mean. You could teach us something.


Oh and don't worry, I was a registered Republican for years. Why? because my parents were and I never paid attention either. I think it was the 2000 election that really got me involved."


"what openned your eyes? That is always informative in helping us figure out what to push on when talking to moderates who have not yet woken up from the haze."



Well......my story is:

I joined the Army as an infantryman at 17yrs old, I am 38 now. And what sucked me into leaning towards Republican in the first place, was what Reagan was doing for the military - in the way of increased pay and building up with lots of new equipment.

Given my personal circumstance, that was the initial attraction for me at first. This attraction then allowed me to later fall for other Republican rhetoric concerning matters of foreign policies. Along with, and in conjunction with the fact, that I was relatively ignorant about economics, I bought and supported much of their domestic policies - I then fell into what I term the "My team mentality".

But as I grew older and began to work for McDonnell Douglas after graduating from Northrop University. I began to realize as a United Aerospace Worker union member, that the Republican economic ideals were not compatible to the working man. This is where I first starting voting for Barabara Boxer and other Democrats for congress, but still voting Republican for the Executive.

This type of voting was done for two reasons. First to facilitate what I saw as a built in check & balance, and secondly because I still believed in the Republican foreign policies (I was still clueless about corporate / c.i.a. actions all through the world). I also still fell for their rhetoric about "a smaller government", "state's rights", "not forcing one's sense of moralities upon others", etc.. Can you believe that? It now disgusts me to think of how I was taken.

Then as I became a Longshoreman in the I.L.W.U. I really began to become more and more resentful towards ALL Republican ideas. This very active union, more than any other organization I've ever been exposed to, taught me a lot about the world upon which we live in. Taught me a lot about economics, and geo-political activities. I without a doubt love this union - it's the greatest group and mix of people I've ever had the privilege to be a party to.

So anyway, when George W. Bushco ran against Al Gore, I was by now too dubious towards any Republican to consider voting for one in any capacity. It was the first time I voted Democrat straight down the whole ballot.

But then the biggest epiphany I've ever had in my whole life struck me on Sept 11th.

Remember my aerospace education and experience I mentioned? Well........when I watched in horror and grief what we all watched on Sept 11th and the days following, I started noticing things about the pentagon attack that just didn't agree with my knowledge of commercial jet aircraft. In fact.....I started noticing a lot of things that attracted me to study everything about Sept 11th very closely. The subsequent facts that I have learned about the Bushco family, the hawks, and how they tie into what my union taught me about multinational corporatism.. And now how I see Sept 11th fitting so coincidentally into all these things. It makes me feel dirty and ashamed that I once supported anything Republican.

This is what brought to be so hateful towards the Republican. I have learned that they are nothing less than a fascist cancer, and in my humble opinion they must be stopped before its too late. It is my humble opinion that if they are not stopped, global corporate fascism will rule everything and everyone and threaten to plunge us into the biggest world war history has ever seen.

From the small mountain of documents (not editorials) that I have studied in the last few years. I firmly believe that this is a real threat.



P.S. And now what I see happening in Iraq. I can't even begin to express my sadness and disgust. This whole thing just sucks.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:54 PM
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14. Welcome Truthseeker...
...to paraphrase our friend Mr. Malloy. We're glad you're here.

Never Give Up.


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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:05 PM
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15. You were strong enough to bend
What an attibute! Welcome SoClifer :toast:
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SoCalifer Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 03:18 AM
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16. Cheers MODemocrat
:toast:

And ClassWarrior I love listening to Mike Malloy. I love his passion.. :)

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