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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:53 PM
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Is the world better off without Saddam Hussein?
Is our administration's policy any better? Let's see:

Saddam was in power from 1979 - 2003. He killed an estimated 1,000,000 Iraqis. That comes out to 41,666 murdered Iraqis per year (on average - sorry to be so cold).

Abu Ghraib- human rights abuses - detaining, torturing and killing citizens without being charged with crimes (estimate 14,000)
(estimated 584 per year)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_prison

Our record (using 3 years yardstick 2000, 2003-2005) of our occupation:

1990 - First Gulf war - 22,000 dead Iraqi soldiers and 2,300 civilian deaths
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War#Casualties_During_the_War

1993 - second Gulf war - casualty estimates range from 50,000 - 100,000. Let's say 75,000 lowball total for both occupation/wars. (estimated 25,000 Iraqi dead per year)

Abu Ghraib- human rights abuses - detaining, torturing citizens without being charged with crimes (estimate 7,000, see above link to include 800 from Guantanamo.)
(estimated 2,333 per year).

You do the math and decide. We are not giving them freedom. Don't let people hand you that argument. We are giving them more of the same. Here is an interesting timeline for you:
http://www.scn.org/wwfor/iraqhist.html We are not in this to hand out freedom to anyone.


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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:57 PM
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1. It would have been better off 25-plus years ago. . .
if the Repukes in office didn't prop him up.


:sarcasm:
My, what fucking humanitarians they are.
:sarcasm:
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:17 PM
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2. By 2003, Hussein was a toothless old tiger locked in a cage.
The world would have been better off if the US had never helped Saddam Hussein get into power in the first place. But by the time Bushco declared war on Iraq, Hussein was a feeble old man, boxed in by sanctions, his every move watched. Granted, his sons were evil bastards, but they were evil bastards we knew.

The current Iraqi government is an unknow quantity. There is some speculation that many have ties to Iran; we know that many are radical fundamentalists.

Bottom line: no guarantee that we haven't wasted US & Iraqi civilian lives & spen half a trillion dollars to create tomorrow's Iran.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:19 PM
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3. In the perspective more Iraqi's are now dead since Bush invaded
THe US. military has killed over 110,000 invading Iraq, (collateral damage) Since the US. got the Iraqi's there election April 28th? 840 more Iraqi's have been killed.
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