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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:33 AM
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Freeper desperation-- Conyers is just sucking up to Muslims
http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/1420060/posts

Free Republic posts John Conyers' letter to George Bush requesting answers on the DSM. Here are the Freeper responses so far. They represent a good cross-section of the different RNC spins that are getting put on the Minutes.

And when the Bush machine is at a loss for words, and has not a collective leg to stand on, it's time to wheel out the old tried and true methodology-- attack the messenger. The messenger here, John Conyers, has Muslims in his district, which means that Conyers is just trying to win political favor, which means that Bush didn't lie!

Anyway, here they are:


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To: Jenya

A difference of opinion between two governments does not rise to the standards of an impeacheable offense. John Conyers can't even allege Bush lied about ANYTHING. A senior British official gave his opinion about Bush's thinking. Which proves NOTHING. The moonbats led by Conyers, are blowing smoke, which is all there is in the memo.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

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To: Jenya

Conyers is a treasonist SOB who cares nothing about free speech unless you speak like him...here's his info:

Friends of John Conyers, Jr.
19512 Livernois
Detroit, Michigan 48221

Phone: 313-438-2004
Email: campaign@johnconyers.com


3 posted on 06/09/2005 9:15:20 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)

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To: Jenya
Letter to Pres Bush Concerning the "Downing Street Minutes"

As a dog returns to it's vomit, the democrats return to their folly.

4 posted on 06/09/2005 9:17:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)

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To: Jenya

Here's the text of an e:mail that I received.

{MoveOn's e-mail on DSM, requesting people sign Conyers' petition).


5 posted on 06/09/2005 9:17:14 PM PDT by Jenya (Terrorism. Bush gets it.)

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To: concerned about politics

How did we EVER get this lucky?

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To: Howlin; neverdem
How did we EVER get this lucky?

Yep, the hits keep coming.

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To: Jenya

During that meeting high ranking British officials reported that ........

So sue the British high ranking officials for their opinions. What's Bush got to do with it? Sheesh!

8 posted on 06/09/2005 9:20:41 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)

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To: Jenya

Of course the historical facts are different: the President made NO decision about invading Iraq before exhausting all options and the case to go to war was made on the basis of evidence every one (including the Democrats back then) concurred was sound at the time. Nothing was "fixed." MoveOn seems to think that a mere difference of opinion between two allies is ipso facto evidence of a conspiracy. There's nothing of the sort in the Downing Street Memo to support such a nutty notion.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

9 posted on 06/09/2005 9:22:18 PM PDT by goldstategop

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To: Howlin

It's a gift. When you read the whole memo, it pretty nicely fortifies Bush's and Blair's positions. It is an exoneration, not a smoking gun.

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To: Jenya

Were there any Repubs among those 89 members of Congress who signed?

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To: Ramius
It is an exoneration, not a smoking gun.

The left always sees things backwards. They see good as evil, and evil as good.

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To: Jenya

Conyers counts on cash from Muslims. He likely took donations in the past via indirect routes from Iraq.

I used to like him for his support of the RKBA.

No longer. I believe his district includes the largest concentration of Arab Muslim's in the country (Dearborn..?).


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To: Jenya

Conyers is a fruitcake, always was, always will be.

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To: Jenya

This has got to be a presumptive "fishing" expedition, IF Conyers and his idiot friends actually think there is something to catch. Otherwise, this is just more noise from an every more desperate Democrat machine, in the midst of meltdown. Beyond this gambit, what is left... armed insurrection? These idiots must believe their own absurd propaganda, and think that the "Christians are coming" to baptize them or something. Insane.

15 posted on 06/09/2005 9:30:38 PM PDT by Richard Axtell (There's gonna be hell to pay, so get out yer checkbooks!)

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To: Jenya

Someone should charge Rep John Conyers for aiding and abetting the enemy cause. I am getting really tired of this tripe.

16 posted on 06/09/2005 9:30:44 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:40 AM
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1. By this idiot logic, Deep Throat was down with the the Viet Cong
If the President commits a crime and you call him on that, you must be partners with whomever the enemy of the U.S. is at the time...
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:40 AM
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2. I'm almost willing to bet
that each and every one of these people are armed.

Not a pleasant thought.

"It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting."

Newspeak for "Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out."

That's so...interesting.

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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:02 AM
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5. Yes, I think you understand the Freeper
demographics pretty well.
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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:02 PM
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24. These people who link God and guns really frost me
:mad:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:40 AM
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3. "it pretty nicely fortifies Bush's and Blair's positions"
Yes, yes it does. Unfortunately that fortifed position of fixing the intelligence was not what they told their citizenry to get us into this war.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:52 AM
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4. And THIS one: "I just e-mailed this scum. His positions give heart
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 12:52 AM by chalky
to the ememy (sic)and cause American deaths."

Is he fuckin' kidding me with this? Last time I checked, we had 1700 soldiers dead and over 12,000 wounded and maimed because of
GWB(astard)'s position.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:04 AM
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6. Morans! The "ememy" is Bush!
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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:08 AM
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7. Have they ACTUALLY read the DSM?
The inability to connect facts is astounding. They really do have lower IQs, don't they.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:12 AM
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22. Of course they haven't read it. They are not reality based and they NEVER
deal with facts. The talking points have finally been made up...it's a DISAGREEMENT between allies and an OPINION of what was said by BushCo at a high-level meeting.
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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:30 AM
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8. BTW, why do some Duers spell morons as "morans"?
Is there some special significance?
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:00 AM
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11. you might say so
infamous pic:

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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:11 AM
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14. Ah, now I get the reference
Hee hee.

:)
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:39 AM
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19. I confess that I've been puzzled by it too.

Is the man in the image someone famous? What is he protesting for or against? Is the whole meme traceable back to him?
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:04 AM
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23. I don't believe anyone ever ID'd the guy
I remember reading one blogger (don't have the link) who wondered if this guy had any idea if he knew that he'd come to represent, in many liberals' minds, the archtypical not-rich Bush supporter. I wonder that as well sometimes.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:34 AM
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9. They're up late tonight at FR
Lots more responses to the Conyers DSM petition. I'll bet y'all didn't know you were caught in a vicious circle of seeking ever more outrageous "smoking guns".

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Between Dean and this memo, we're actually quite fortunate that these tin-foil-hatters are spending so much crucial time & money on these pointless exercises. With each failure, they become more enraged, and thus more desperate. With increasing desperation, they'll look for even more outrageous "smoking guns". It's a delightfully vicious circle to see them caught in.

And thus, this alienates anyone of reasonable intelligence.

And with Rosie "Bush-is-a-war-criminal!" O'Donnell and Steven "John Kerry would have made a wonderful President" Spielberg, all we have to do is sit back and smile...

17 posted on 06/09/
2005 9:34:57 PM PDT by kromike
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:38 AM
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10. I've tried wandering through there a couple of times ...
BOY did I learn my lesson quickly. My thoughts were that having an open mind could lead to honest dialog well,,, like I said i learned my lesson. SOOOOO much hatred, its kinda sad.
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:06 AM
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12. ugh freepers...
If it's so absurd then why would they be upset over it being further investigated?


Because they know it's true and support Bush's neocon agenda regardless. In their head it's a few less Muslims in the world...big deal. They think of our troops as being disposable resources (just like the Bush admin). Reading the posts at freerepublic.com make my heart turn cold...some evil fucks over there.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #12
21. Welcome to DU Lecky
:hi:
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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:10 AM
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13. I am VERY PROUD to have been kicked out of FR.
I went undercover there for nearly a year. In that hell-hole, the smart ones are retards.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 03:51 AM
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15. How do they make it through life being so delusional? n/t
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:36 AM
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16. Jack Lessenbery's column this week is about Conyers
It's somewhere at www.metrotimes.com
I read it in the print version, as the Metro Times is available free all over the Detroit area.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:18 AM
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17. links...
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 08:21 AM by Viva_La_Revolution
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=7801

Street fighter in the halls of Congress

John Conyers Jr. spends a lot of time on airplanes these days, dashing around the nation like an elegant old street fighter, trying to wake people up.

He’s been fighting for a long time, for voting rights in the South; standing atop a car with a bullhorn to try and stop Detroiters from burning down their city in 1967; fighting against Nixon and Reagan and the Vietnam War.

Now, he’s fighting still, too little noticed by most of us. At an age when most men are content to play golf, he’s trying to build a "resurgent people’s movement" that will lead to Americans demanding better health care and an end to what he sees as a totally senseless and hopeless war.





from 2003...
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=5392

U.S. Rep. John Conyers, D-Detroit, epitomizes the spirit of the city — idealistic hell-raiser; fighter for Democratic and union values; tireless advocate for justice for minorities. Last year, Conyers was elected to his 19th term in the U.S. House of Representatives, winning 83 percent of the vote in Michigan’s 14th Congressional District, which covers swaths of Detroit and Dearborn, and all of Highland Park and Hamtramck, plus Melvindale, Allen Park, Southgate, Riverview, Trenton, Gibraltar, and Grosse Ile Township.

Born on the east side, this Detroiter knows what it takes to call our city home — his father was a factory worker and UAW rep; Conyers himself worked in auto plants and was a union officer before he went to Vietnam. Upon his return from the war, Conyers got a law degree and was elected to Congress in 1964. He’s the second-longest-serving member of the House. Conyers says one of his greatest acts was to introduce the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday bill four days after the civil rights leader was assassinated. “It took me 15 years to get it signed into law,” he says.

Conyers is currently working on a bill to provide universal health coverage. “My bill would create a system where health care is a matter of right from the moment you are born,” he says.

Now living in northwest Detroit, Conyers says his choice for “best thing about Detroit” is Baker's Keyboard Lounge. “Jazz is the unique music that came from the African-American existence. Detroit has produced more musicians than any other urban area,” says Conyers. As for Baker’s, “whenever I get 45 minutes to myself in Detroit, I go to Baker’s.” The elegant jazz joint is a place where “people can honestly relax,” Conyers says “It is a humongous institution of great recognition across the country. They still bring in our best musicians. They still provide an open mic for aspiring musicians. It’s a very, very important spot in the city, culturally.” And, don’t forget, “the dinners are standup and there’s no cover.” Whenever he goes, Conyers gets catfish, yams, black-eyed peas, cornbread and green beans. “They’ve got great cooks. If you add that plus the music, plus the friendly environment, plus the diversity, there aren’t many places anywhere that can compare.”

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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:28 AM
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18. I doubt any one of them read the DSM. That one comment by Jenya
was about the dumbest thing I've read.

"So sue the British high ranking officials for their opinions. What's Bush got to do with it? Sheesh!"
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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:42 AM
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20. Freepers believe you can sue people for opinions?
Or just facts?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:06 PM
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25. Sorta like Chimpy sucks up to terrorists, er, Saudis?
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