Laura PourMeADrink
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Fri Jun-10-05 06:55 PM
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Here's the Repugs Bullshit Line on DSM - "Fixing" Intelligence |
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Just heard Rich Lowery, National Review on Jim Lehrer. When Jim asked him, "Is there anything to it (DSM)?" He said, "No" And Jim: "What about "fixing the intelligence" ?
Lowery's reply was that by using the word "fixing" they were referring to fixing things after the invasion, such as post-war issues, reconstruction, etc.
Who wants to bet that we hear this line again....
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Fri Jun-10-05 06:57 PM
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1. That's the best they can come up with?? |
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Fri Jun-10-05 06:57 PM
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2. Did Lehrer have a liberal on to talk about DSM or just Lowery? |
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Haven't seen it yet here on the left coast.
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Laura PourMeADrink
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:04 PM
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8. Mark Shields -- Didn't hear him say anything much - but tuned in late.. |
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:12 PM
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12. Oh, no. Does that mean Rich Lowery is the new counterpoint to Mark |
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Shields? (Haven't watched a lot lately.) They just keep going further and further to the right.
David Gergen > Paul Gigot > David Brooks > Rich Lowery? yuuuuck!
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Fri Jun-10-05 06:57 PM
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3. Guess he didn't read the part where it said |
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there were no plans for after the invasion.
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BattyDem
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Fri Jun-10-05 06:57 PM
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4. Direct quote from the DSM |
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"Bush wanted to remove Saddam through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."
They've got to be kidding ... how exactly does that refer to post-war issues? :eyes:
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:00 PM
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6. How are they going to explain away "fixing the facts"? |
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That means LIEING, regardless of what you are lieing about.
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:03 PM
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7. Rich Lowery --How do we contact him?--we all should email him. |
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:00 PM
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5. So how exactly does that definition tie in to the quote |
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"intelligence was being fixed"?
Sorry, in that context, their definition doesn't work.
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:05 PM
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9. lets all send this to media matters, Keith Olbermann ect ect. We can |
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NOT let this go!! We need to be vigilant and keep it alive!!
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Laura PourMeADrink
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:07 PM
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10. Well, I wish I had it word for word, but Jim asked - what about |
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Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 07:08 PM by Laura PackYourBags
what this DSM says, about FIXING THE INTELL1GENCE? That is what Lowery homed in on. No one quoted the memo nor mentioned fixing facts.
Tres sloppy journalism all the way around. And Mark Shields asleep at the wheel.
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:19 PM
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14. sorry to hear that Mark Shields was aleep at the wheel on this important |
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:09 PM
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11. We will be fed that crock of shit 24 hours a day |
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Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 07:11 PM by Old_Fart
Turn you TV's off and don't buy a newspaper. That's the biggest crock of shit that I have ever heard in my life.
Bush wanted that damn oil war and that's it...end of story!
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:13 PM
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13. Lowry's email address below |
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comments.lowry@nationalreview.com Lowry's email address
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Laura PourMeADrink
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:23 PM
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15. Well, actually, let's hope we DO hear that crock of shit. Because |
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if we hear it, that will be because someone brought it up. You know They won't bring it up. So people are bringing it up, that will mean it matters. Otherwise it will be swept under the carpet (man that carpet has a shitload on bumps in it).
The discouraging thing that I have heard is that most people that support Chimp, know he lied getting in there. They are not 100% morons. But they don't care because they believe he had a higher cause (the freedom thing). Thus, this memo doesn't really bother anyone except the people who have been against it all along.
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Laura PourMeADrink
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:24 PM
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16. Now a new group (PBS) are talking about DSM now... |
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Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 07:27 PM by Laura PackYourBags
On edit: All they said (Gwen Iffell) and her roundtable was that the important thing was that B** and Blair stood up "lock, stock, and barrel" together and did not waiver -- They went to war for the right reasons. Gwen said they have been saying that for 2 years so how else can we (the press) ask the question.
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:51 PM
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20. I lost respect for Gwen Ifill |
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Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 07:52 PM by marylanddem
During the last election. Some stupid comment or other. Anyway, she is full of it; the brown-nosing White House press corps can ask any damn thing they want to - but evidently they don't want to. They don't deserve to be called journalists.
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:42 PM
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You posted a very encouraging message to me and I wanted to thank you for it.
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Laura PourMeADrink
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Fri Jun-10-05 08:11 PM
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21. WELCOME ! Glad you have joined us. For many of us, no one else will listen |
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Fri Jun-10-05 09:46 PM
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24. I have been around too many years not to listen |
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I don't recognize our country any longer since the SS took over.
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:28 PM
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17. It all depends on what the meaning of "fix" is.... |
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I'm hearing a lot of waffling here. Equivocation. Too bad it wasn't under oath.
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Fri Jun-10-05 07:31 PM
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18. Certainly they can come up with a better lie than that! |
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The lie is a lie in itself! NOTHING has been FIXED in Iraq... except for the books of Haliburton!
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Laura PourMeADrink
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Fri Jun-10-05 08:13 PM
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22. Hey ya ! You're right. Even if they were talking (heh heh he) |
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about fixing post war intelligence they haven't done that either. So either way it's a lie within a lie. Wow now they are lying squared !
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Fri Jun-10-05 08:15 PM
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23. Their lies have lies! |
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