Sean Reynolds
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Sat Jul-23-05 05:53 PM
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60% of America approves of Roe vs Wade. |
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Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 05:55 PM by Sean Reynolds
So says CBS News Poll done on July 13-14. That's a pretty big number.
Also a CNN Poll done in June shows that 75% of Americans believe abortion should be sometimes/always legal.
Yet to hear people from the right talk about it, you'd think most Americans oppose Roe vs Wade.
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Sat Jul-23-05 05:54 PM
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1. They are control freaks. F them all. |
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Sat Jul-23-05 05:58 PM
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5. When you believe that you know the 'only correct answer', you tend to |
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Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 06:32 PM by Dr_eldritch
become such a control freak.
When you don't listen to the other points of view or important information, you become an asshole.
{oe}- delinquint determiner
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:08 PM
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15. Hey when I wrote to his post it said something else |
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I thought it used to say something about freepers. It's either been changed (through editing)or I miss read it. I was responding to a statement about them still trying to keep abortions illeagal, even though 60% of Americans agreed.
Thus the control statement geez you big bully!!!
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:17 PM
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18. LOL! Well, by 'you' I meant |
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'he whoever is so ignorant as to force his beliefs on others despite information to the contrary of those beliefs'
(I suppose many freeper-types fall into that category)
"The night is black Without a moon The air is thick and still The vigilantes gather on The lonely torch lit hill
Features distorted in the flickering light The faces are twisted and grotesque Silent and stern in the sweltering night The mob moves like demons possessed Quiet in conscience, calm in their right Confident their ways are best
The righteous rise With burning eyes Of hatred and ill-will Madmen fed on fear and lies To beat and burn and kill
They say there are strangers who threaten us In our immigrants and infidels They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves
Quick to judge Quick to anger Slow to understand Ignorance and prejudice And fear walk hand in hand..."
Rush - 'Witch Hunt' 1981
We are up against wrought ignorance.
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LaurenG
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:22 PM
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22. Well then I truly apologize for getting upset at you |
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I, well you know what I thought. :blush:
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:01 PM
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8. Jeez! I didn't know Mel Gibson was on this board! |
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You sound just like him.
"Planning to have children is boring. It shouldn't be left up to us."
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:02 PM
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10. I was talking about the fing freepers. What is wrong with you? |
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:03 PM
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For a moment, I thought you were one of those feminists for life or something!
My bad.
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:09 PM
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16. No biggy. I think on edit the original post was changed |
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It looks pretty iffy. It's ok
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Sat Jul-23-05 05:55 PM
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2. That number seems even large than polls done in the early 90s when |
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Roe seemed to be under constant assault.
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Sean Reynolds
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Sat Jul-23-05 05:56 PM
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3. Great resource on polling..... |
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Sat Jul-23-05 05:59 PM
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Interesting stuff. Esp. the Fox polls!
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Sat Jul-23-05 05:57 PM
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4. John McCain said most of America is prolife now...You mean McCain LIED? |
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Again?
Gee....but...on Hardball...he said clearly that America has finally moved to the right on abortion and is ready to take the prolife position just like him.
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:02 PM
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9. He may not be wrong... |
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The tragedy here is that this debate has been fully framed by a complete misconception. And that is that 'pro-life' and 'pro-choice' are diametrically opposed positions.
They are not.
I would wager that the vast majority of 'Pro-Choice' advocates do not usually look favorably on pregnancy terminations.
I think the vast majority of reasonable people can agree that abortions are not usually a 'good' thing.
It is the unreasonable people who have screwed this issue out of recognition.
I am Pro-life and Pro-choice.
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:05 PM
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13. He was funny in Wedding Crashers |
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the hypocrite that likes to censor R rated movies starred in titty fest '05
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:20 PM
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21. McCain has fell off the boat |
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Hes gone over the edge. Hes become a whackjob who coddles felons like Rove and Bush.
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Sat Jul-23-05 05:58 PM
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6. And many of those 60% support all kinds of restrictions |
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Parental consent laws, parental notification laws, making women waste time reading anti-abortion propaganda, "partial birth" bans, etc.
These laws may be popular and pass constitutional scrutiny, bad they are bad public policy.
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:11 PM
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17. I can agree with most of that. |
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Parental notification can actually endanger the physical and emotional well-being of a young person who is in an unfortunate place to begin with.
The 'Partial birth' ban only applies to a late term procedure that the majority of physicians/OB/Gyns would not perform unless the mother's life were at stake anyway... in which case the ban has an obvious flaw.
As for the 'making women waste time reading anti-abortion propaganda', there are instances where the doctor is simply practicing ethical behavior.
Most clinics show a video or pamphlets to their patients and offer them counseling to make absolutely certain that the patient understands exactly what she is doing and to determine that they are not being coerced into their decision.
Certainly there are places that may use incorrect information, and that is irresponsible. But by and large the clinic is both watching out for the patient as well as covering themselves.
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:03 PM
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11. Freepers don't believe it |
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This is from a Freeper Poll:
I don't believe the liberal claims that the majority of Americans support abortion as a right. Would you favor laws making abortion illegal in your state?
Yes 41.8%
Yes, with exceptions 38.3%
No 16.6%
Pass 1.6%
Undecided 1.6% -snip-
Why? They cannot believe that a MOTHER can be Pro Choice. They think any woman who is pro choice is a slut, unmarried, and childless. If this is what they really think, they are in for a MAJOR surprise.
As I wrote in my email to James Dobson and Focus on the Family, "You, do NOT represent ME or MY family."
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Sean Reynolds
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:07 PM
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14. My mom is pro-choice.... |
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Though she's told me a few times that she doesn't think she could ever abort a child.
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:18 PM
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Although, I am beyond the age now, but for Rape? Definitely. Fetal Deformity, Unmarried, Family complete? Probably.
I still feel though that I have NO RIGHT to decide for any OTHER woman. That is HER choice.
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:58 PM
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I could never tell a woman what to do...just like I'm sure anti-choice people wouldn't like the government telling them they need to abort THEIR babies.
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:18 PM
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Listening to conservatives you would think that it would be like 90% opposition to choice.
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:47 PM
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23. The right must half took math lessons from Jethro on Beverly Hillbillies |
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Naught from naught is naught. That is why 60 percent equal half.
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:05 PM
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25. And yet we are being told that being pro-choice "hurts the left" |
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America has been pro-choice for decades; that hasn't changed simply because the RW fundie extremists have the microphone.
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Sat Jul-23-05 11:50 PM
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26. as expected, the religious reich works against public opinion |
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Sat Jul-23-05 11:52 PM
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27. Somebody send this to Hillary, will you? |
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Before she gets in bed with Randall Terry.
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