Rick Santorum on The Daily Show RIGHT NOW!

[Ian David]

Jon Stewart is chomping at the bit like I've never seen him before!

[Bill McBlueState]

1. what a stooge.

Did you hear how little applause there was when he came on?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

2. We can all agree on ice cream.

Delicious, but don't eat too much.

[rocktivity]

3. He agreed that ice cream is good

Jon also explained that that the "boos" from the audience--it was actually his nickname "Lou..."

I was going to look up a photo of him, but I'm glad I resisted--what a dork!!!

:headbang:
rocknation

[norml]

4. Rick Insanitorium

He's plugging some fweeping book.

[JudyM]

"Can you confuse virtue with heterosexuality?" great quote, Jon! nt

[Gold Metal Flake]

5. Divorce culture?

"When the divorce culture came in..."
When, exactly, the fuck was that?

[Tux]

10. Divorce Culture

A set of views created by godless femi-commies so they can destroy marriage, make men gay, create universal health care, remove free trade, remove Deity and Jesus from society, and give terrorists therapy or free Korans. Or it could be the high rates of divorce resulting from high debts the couple forms or too much a difference in education.

[Bill McBlueState]

6. ah, the marriage myth.

:eyes:

[Bill McBlueState]

9. and John's shooting it down

"The love marriage only came about in the 17th century. It was about property before that."

Nice, John.

[Ian David]

20. The Myth of Marriage

The Myth of Marriage

By Monica Mehta, AlterNet. Posted July 21, 2005.

A radical new book debunks the concept of marriage as a time-honored institution, and argues that we need to loosen up about it.

The institution of traditional marriage is in a state of crisis.

There's a misstatement in that sentence. But it's not that marriage is in crisis. It's that the institution of marriage is, or was at any time, traditional. As Stephanie Coontz reveals in her new book, Marriage, A History: From Obedience to Intimacy, or How Love Conquered Marriage, human unions have gone through a number of evolutions. We would be remiss to think that it was ever a stable institution. Instead, it has always been in flux. It has only been based on the concept of love for 200 years; before that, it was a way of ensuring economic and political stability. Through painstakingly-detailed descriptions and anecdotes from hunter-gatherer days to the modern era, Coontz points out that "almost every marital and sexual arrangement we have seen in recent years, however startling it may appear, has been tried somewhere before." So when we think of cohabitation, gay marriage, or stepfamilies as deviating from the "norm," we are wrong, because there has never really been a "norm."

For a country obsessed with the perfect image of the nuclear family -- mother, father and two kids -- this is eye-opening. We are trying to force ourselves to be something we never really were, or were for a very brief period of time. Instead, Coontz argues, we need to be more tolerant of and open to different forms of union. People with traditional "family values" lack the skills to adapt to social realities that have changed marriage, such as the increased independence of women.

Coontz argues that many of our familial woes come from an unrealistic, idealized version of marriage, and advocates a more liberal interpretation of marriage. Many have had this idea before, but Coontz's centuries-long historical survey confirms it. Below, she answers our questions about gay marriage, the government's support (or lack thereof) of the institution, and what really makes a marriage work.

What is the central thesis of your book?

The basic argument for this book is that what we think of as the traditional marriage -- the marriage based on love, and for the purpose of making peoples' individual lives better -- this was not the purpose of marriage for thousands of years. Instead, marriage was about acquiring in-laws, jockeying for political and economic advantage, and building the family labor force. It was only 200 years ago that people began to believe that young people could choose their own mates, and should choose their own mates on the basis of something like love, which had formerly been considered a tremendous threat to marriage. As soon as people began to do that, all of the demands that we now think of as radical new demands -- from the demand for divorce, to the right to refuse a shotgun marriage, to even recognition of same-sex relations -- were immediately raised.

More:
http://www.alternet.org/story/23400/

[Cha]

7. Yeah, I see him up there ..

pontificating, but it's on mute and I don't feel like getting up to hear what he has to say.

[Bill McBlueState]

8. maybe you're better off

It's nothing special, just his same old bs.

[Ian David]

14. Jon is comparatively restrained and serious tonight

I'm fascinated by the way he's handling this.

[Guaranteed]

16. Me too, considering what he did to Goldberg...

Hopefully we'll see something a little more nasty this segment.

[Bill McBlueState]

17. true, he's not trying to start any fights

And that's so much more respectable than O'Really's schtick. It's maybe not the most exciting TV, but it's respectable.

[Sparkly]

11. Jon said he got to a "stopping point" in the dicussion.

What I kept hoping he'd say, to go beyond that stopping point, was "Is THAT the role of government?!?"

[Guaranteed]

12. Jon was being way too nice.

The guy came on his show and spewed bigotry. There should have been a massive smackdown, there.

[bbernardini]

13. Jon needs to say something like this...

"If you want to preserve the family unit, don't ban gay marriage, outlaw divorce." I'd love to see Santorum's reaction to that.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

27. Santorum is living in a fantasy world.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

15. Jon should stick him with:

"Should homosexuals be allowed to adopt? You know, because it's all about what's best for the children." Let's see Santorum either show what an asshole he is, or alienate his base.

[countmyvote4real]

18. Can I just say, "Fuck the children."

That's what Rick really means in GOP opposite speak when he uses children as an excuse for his backward agenda.

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. "I even provided an index"???

WTF?? Does he think the index will get him a Pulitzer Prize or something? :rofl:

[jasmeel]

22. Santorum's a huge nerd! He's just someone I'd like to punch

in the face. What a pig! Stewart should ask him about his gay asst!

[proud2BlibKansan]

35. Better watch it

Santorum et al could have the FBI reading this board.

[Ian David]

24. Rick Santorum on the culture of today vs the 1960s

Santorum says the 1950s and 1960s were more nurturing to families
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=175&topic_id=6508&mesg_id=6508

[proud2BlibKansan]

40. Yep life sure was better

back when June Cleaver wore pearls to vacuum.

[Ian David]

31. I'm telling you! Either Gay Bobby is trying to sabotage him...

or else Rick Santorum himself wants to be destroyed.

The emotional devestation of a crushing political defeat will give him a reasonable cover-story for leaving his wife.

And then he can finally be with Gay Bobby.

[Bill McBlueState]

21. lizards selling beer / Victoria's Secret ads

Clearly, Anheuser-Busch is donating a lot to Santorum! He sure didn't want to say anything about them.

[dajoki]

23. ricky's worried about victoria's secret ads

what a fuckin' moron!!

[Cha]

26. Jon should ask him about

don sherwood!

[dajoki]

41. yeah, i wish...

most people know nothing about it though. but i would have loved to see pricky try to answer that.

[Sparkly]

29. Yeah, what the heck did that mean??

Why is anybody worried about that? (Dare we suggest he has a gender identity or other sexual problem?)

[dajoki]

39. sherwood is...

a 64 year old married rethug congressman from the 10th cong. district who had an ongoing affair with a 29 year old woman. the woman is suing sherwood for physical abuse. santorum came out the other day and stuck up for the woman beater. THAT"S FAMILY VALUES? http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/12174379.htm

[tinfoilinfor2005]

38. Yeah, Victoria Secret ads are SO much worse than

pictures of guys with hoods and electric wire wrapped around them.

Boy, once that koolaid saturates your brain there is nothing you can't convince yourself of.

[jasmeel]

25. This interview was a complete waste of time. Stewart didn't

even throw the book at the end of the interview.

[Gregorian]

30. But he did jab him with the five to one bet.

That was good.

Bill Bennett. Gawd, like Santorum has his head in the sand. He talks morality, and then mentions Bennett in the same sentence.

[Ian David]

33. One need not resort to hysterics and theatricals to make a point

Jon let Santorum do a decent job of making himself look even more like a nut.

And Santorum felt perfectly comfortable and relaxed doing it.

And he'll be pleased until he reads the press tomorrow.

And then Gay Bobby will kiss him and tell him it's Okay.

[Bill McBlueState]

28. hm. I liked that approach.

Pretty much everyone watching already has an opinion of Santorum. Confrontation wouldn't teach us anything new, so I liked John's less combative approach.

[central scrutinizer]

34. It wasn't a fair fight.

It's not too hard to outwit a half-wit.

[5thGenDemocrat]

37. Here's what I got from the interview

I don't think Sanctorum came across as a bad guy so much as he did a supremely dumb one. Dumb and shallow. And trying way too hard to be a regular guy.
It reeked of Rotary Club hail-fellow backslapping more than, I guess, the sheer banality of evil.
John
Santorum's in big trouble in this '06 election. The interview did nothing to help him and that should be good enough for tonight.
(And just how did Pennsylvania elect this guy?)

[Guaranteed]

32. That was pretty bad. nt

[Gregorian]

36. Santorum should do Music Man.

I can see him now. T, and that rhymes with V and that stands for Victoria's Secret.

He's the pinnacle of morality. We should all repent and give him the power to make America just the way he wants it. All men and women in pairs lined up with 2.7 kids smiling in the McDonald's drivethru, on the way back from church. But since we already know how that story ends, maybe we should just dump Santorum in a bucket of hog shit and get on with life.