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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:25 PM
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They hate us for our _____________.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:26 PM
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1. Stupidity and arrogance
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:44 PM
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50. Freedom Fries
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 11:35 PM
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62. Bombing them and their hospitals and water treatment facilities
Stoopid a-rabs. Shouldn't have attacked Pearl Harbor in the first place.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:05 PM
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80. Now, that really made me laugh. And I'll bet there's someone on
the right who agrees with you totally.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:26 PM
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President...
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:28 PM
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4. you said it brother. nt
nt
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 11:01 PM
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58. A whopping AMEN on that one!!
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:32 PM
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83. testified!
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:26 PM
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2. Greed
and hypocrisy.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:26 PM
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3. Foreign Policy
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:28 PM
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5. all of the above
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:29 PM
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6. evil empire? n/t
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:30 PM
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7. great dancing ability
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:30 PM
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8. whole row of boxed cereal
and freedom to buy whichever one we choose.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:31 PM
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9. violent video games.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:33 PM
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13. and Seymore Butts!nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:31 PM
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10. Gluttony.
:shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:32 PM
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11. Deleted message
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:33 PM
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12. popsicles EOM
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:33 PM
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14. Genocidal skills
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:33 PM
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15. regular bowels.
More then freedom is on the march.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:34 PM
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16. APOSTACY
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:34 PM
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17. Libertines
Actually, they hate us for killing their children.
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:34 PM
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18. dumbass leaders
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:34 PM
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19. four hour foreplay
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:43 PM
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24. and extra large condoms
n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:48 PM
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43. Self Deletions.
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 07:49 PM by impeachdubya
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:41 PM
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20. Hypocrisy
President
Sanctimony
Vice President
Ignorance
Secretary of Defense
Materialism
Secretary of State
Blind Nationalism
etc
etc
etc

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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:07 PM
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81. Ding, Ding, Ding. Hell, I'm beginning to hate us for each of these
things - except, of course, I love everybody on DU.
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:41 PM
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21. cream soda
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Smirking_Chimp Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:42 PM
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22. always on, electricity 24/7
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:43 PM
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23. Willingness to hate them back.
Al Queda knows they get a lot f bang for their buck when they hate the USA, so they keep right at it!
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:45 PM
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25. Liberalism

Islamic terrorists really, really hate liberalism. So we can add them to the (very long) list of people who really, really hate liberalism.

What is it about other people enjoying themselves that make so many people hate?
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:53 PM
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26. All of the above.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:54 PM
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27. "SMART" Bombs
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Im_Your_Huckleberry Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:02 PM
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28. imperialism.
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Debs Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:31 AM
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68. Bingo
We have a winner
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:03 PM
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29. slogans
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:12 PM
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30. septic systems - and that's a good reason to be envious
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:16 PM
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31. ability to watch SEC football.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:31 PM
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32. IMPERIALISM.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:35 PM
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33. According to the Pentagon, they hate us for our POLICIES!
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:41 PM
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34. sexy booty
yeah baby
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:43 PM
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35. Double Standards
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:58 PM
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36. Hypocrisy.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 06:03 PM
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37. They don't hate us for "our anything". Hate is based in fear.They fear us.
When FDR said the only thing we have to fear is fear itself, he meant that the only thing that really could bring down the great America was fear. America is safe in the world when people respect us. We are in danger when people fear us. Fear makes you a threat. We were a threat to the Nazi's and japan. We could beat the Depression when it was every man for himself because fear of poverty bread selfish behavior. Only ending the fear with help or with defense saves us.

They hate us because they fear us.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:45 PM
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41. I disagree.
They don't hate us because they fear us. They hate us for our unconditional support of Israel, our troops on their holy land in Saudi Arabia, and our ignorance or denial of those facts.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:24 PM
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57. no, all hate is based in a perceived threat. You obviously don't like all
of the things that you mentioned and yet you are not bombing buses and soldiers and innocent civilians. What you describe is not hate. That is a disagreement. Hate is based in fear. Period.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 11:11 PM
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59. I hate certain people in this administration
But I don't fear them and therefore want to bomb them. PREJUDICE is based in fear of the unknown...not hate IMO.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 11:32 PM
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60. If you don't fear them you don't hate them. You may feel a severe
dislike, but that is not the same thing.

Prejudice is the feeling that makes you declare a man guilty until proven innocent. Hate is that thing that wells up inside you makes you kill the man who is declared innocent of murdering your young child. Prejudice is the feeling that makes you insult a gay man. Hate is feeling that makes you beat a gay man to death rather than simply insult him. Prejudice is refusing to serve a black person at your lunch counter. Hate is what makes you string that same person from a tree for the latest crime committed in your town.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:03 PM
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79. I disagree.
No-I HATE them. I don't fear them. Your definition of hate CAN be right, though, such as in the dictionary:

Main Entry: 1hate
Pronunciation: 'hAt
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English hete; akin to Old High German haz hate, Greek kEdos care
1 a : intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury b : extreme dislike or antipathy : LOATHING <had a great hate of hard work>

But so can MY definition.

So it's USUALLY derived from fear, but it can also be derived from anger or extreme dislike. So it IS the same thing as extreme dislike, but even more. And I believe the reason "they" hate us is because of anger or sense of injury due to our foreign policies like I originally stated.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:30 PM
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38. Chimp Chimp Chimp Chimp Chimp Chimp Chimp Chimp Chimp Chimp
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:40 PM
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39. freakin' stupidity
and they fear us for the same reason. If the world is a neighborhood, we are the guy next door who OD'd on crack, is up in the tree naked with a loaded AK 47.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:45 PM
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40. asshat in a cowboy hat.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:48 PM
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42. Retarded Cowboy
to quote a feller from DEVO.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:49 PM
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44. Gays, Birth Control, and Porn. nt
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:49 PM
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45. New York Yankees.
With no specific offense intended to the Bronx Bombers. But they have had an embarrassment of riches since Day One. When you're consistently on top, you're naturally a target and an object of intense emotion.

Go Angels! :thumbsup:
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aspberger Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:51 PM
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46. Liquor, alternative lifestyles, and questioning natures
n/t
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 07:53 PM
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47. Extremely Large Penises
Oh wait, they hate us because we ACT like we have extremely large....oh never mind.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:15 PM
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48. administration
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 08:15 PM
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49. pizza.
No delivery in the ME.
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BlueStateModerate Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:08 PM
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51. They hate us for our power
They are maniacal killers, and we are a convenient, "justifiable" target. If we entirely left the Middle East, they would still hate us. Terrorists are sick, sick human beings who kill for the pleasure and excitement. They're no better than the Nazis. It's embarassing when people here try to justify terrorism.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:27 AM
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69. No, this is too simplistic, and it's a right-wing talking point.
I don't think anyone here is trying to justify terrorism. Terrorism, in all its forms, is hateful, brutal, cowardly and unjustifiable. Insofar as it is possible to stop it, it must be stopped.

But know that terrorists do not kill for just "pleasure and excitement." They have grievances, some legitimate and some not. But blowing up innocent people is not a legitimate way to air those grievances, or to make onself heard.

And sadly, I would have to categorize our government's killing of 100,000+ Iraqis as a form of terrorism, also. That mass killing has hatched an untold number of sworn enemies for decades to come.

The world is a tiny place now -- global leaders must learn to lead their people beyond killing if we are to survive.

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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:33 PM
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84. colonialism
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The Jacobin Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:12 PM
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52. belief the rich should pay their fair share.
You are talking about the repugs aren't you? ;)
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:15 PM
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53. Superiority Complex n/t
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:17 PM
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54. 80 years of fucking up the mideast
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:18 PM
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Pop corn and pop tarts. nt
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:18 PM
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55. Totalitarian Dictatorship.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:20 PM
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56. conspicuous consumption
biggest cars, biggest homes, priciest clothes, yadda yadda.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 11:34 PM
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61. DLC
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:02 AM
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63. Grand theft Auto
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:07 AM
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64. ethnocentric tank ego
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:54 AM
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65. smart fashion sense
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:10 AM
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66. Actually, they don't hate us .... yet
They hate our government. They hate our leadersip. They hate our monkey in his man suit.

But I don't think they hate us .... yet.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:18 AM
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67. UPPITY WOMEN!! n/t
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:29 AM
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70. wars of agression
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:30 AM
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71. exploitation of developing nations
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:30 AM
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72. quest for world domination
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:32 AM
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73. class warfare
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:21 AM
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74. Have you considered the possibility...
...that "hate" is not the proper word to describe their feelings toward us?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:36 AM
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75. ok, what would be the proper word?
"strong dislike", "resent"?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:04 AM
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76. I'm not sure.
I'm uncomfortable with seeing this as hate or blind rage. It's a bit too close to the good/evil paradigm the right is pushing with respect to our current fight against terrorism. It also seems to speak to the philosophy that says that if we simply make the middle east like us, the terrorism will stop. I highly doubt that making nice to the Middle East would stop Osama bin Laden from being a terrorist. It might vary his targets somewhat, but maybe not. For him, Western cultural influence is every bit as much a threat as military or political influence - hence the Taliban's distaste for all forms of mass media that might "degrade" their glorious 12th century cultural project.

If you look at Osama's overriding goals, he's not really selling expulsion of the Americans from the middle east as the end-point of his struggle. It can be seen more as a means to his true end, which is to change the political, cultural, and economic landscape of the Muslim world to something resembling a cross between medieval Europe and the old Muslim world. In this context, he's certainly using hate as a tool to achieve his goals, but that hate is nothing more than a tool. It isn't the root cause of the problem. In my opinion, the root of the problem - the thing which enables Osama to foment hatred of the US and use it for his own means- is the schizophrenic and dysfunctional nature of Arab society brought on by the Oil boom and its associated political, social, and economic changes. Saudi Arabia strikes me as the most bipolar society in the world. Bipolarity is every bit as socially unhealthy as it is emotionally unhealthy.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:37 AM
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77. Remember that it's primarily the Bush cabal, the neocons
who promote the idea that it's exclusively a matter of hate. And this is nothing new, Reagan literally said the communists are devils.
I'm sure the reason why the OP used the phrase "They hate us for our..." because of the infamous Bush phrase "They hate us for our freedoms".

I don't think we really know what Osama's goals are, other then what the corporate controlled media tell us. I am sure we are not being told everything by those media. As far as i can see there is every indication that hate is being fostered on both sides, by those who stand to gain from it. In that scheme Osama is merely one of the tools.
Even without that i think it is to be expected that some people 'on the other side' do have plenty of reason to actually hate us (though not so much because of our freedoms), and have their actions guided by that hate. Whatever their precise feelings are, i think we can be sure they ar not happy about what our governments have done and still do to them.
I think most of the negative feelings towards the US and "the west" are warranted because of all the bad things that we do in the world. Otoh i think that most of them are as much a victim of what's going on, as most of us are.

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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:45 AM
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78. they just hate us
period--especially now.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:29 PM
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82. booty
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aspberger Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:10 PM
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85. seated toilets N/T
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:20 PM
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86. Multi-National Corporations
nt
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:23 PM
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87. They hate us because we don't know why they hate us.
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:29 PM
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88. Funny, I first thought "they" referred to Bush & the Republicans
My first word that came to mind was "decency."
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:37 PM
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89. Fancy pants.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:53 PM
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90. Legos
Legos r0X0r
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