Roberts "Devout", Not A "John Kerry Catholic"

[sandnsea]

That was the pronouncement of L. Brent Bozell III on Sean Hannity’s radio show yesterday.

“..he's a devout Catholic, he's not a John Kerry Catholic, he's a devout Catholic.”

So now the Republican Party has declared itself the arbiter of the worship of Catholics and who is and isn’t within the bounds of the Catechism??

These people are truly getting out there.

Rick Santorum, who I’m sure Bozell would also classify as a “devout Catholic”, has recently come under fire for blaming the pedophilia scandal, that has plagued the Church in all parts of the country, on Boston “liberalism”. This has been in addition to his comment comparing homosexuality to man on dog sex and his most recent mindbenders, that a woman controlling her own reproductive health is equivalent to a slaveowner owning a slave; but the state has the right to legislate the use of birth control. Further, should a woman choose to have a child and send her child to public school, she ought to consider, according to Santorum, that this is an “aberration” and it will be amazing if her child turns out normal “considering the weird socialization they get in public schools."

Now I can’t say that the other Catholics on the Supreme Court; Kennedy, Scalia and Thomas, or even Roberts himself; would agree with either Santorum or Bozell. It certainly isn’t within my Catholic upbringing to make such condemning proclamations; one can never know the soul of another. Perhaps the justices were reared in the same manner, so I wouldn’t want to put these crazy ideas on any of them, or even Roberts himself.

But if they think these statements are ludicrous, then they need to find the opportunities to say so. The “devoutness” of any Catholic is between that Catholic, his priest and his God. It has always been that way. I don’t believe Pope Benedict has consulted with L. Brent Bozell to change it.

The National Catholic Reporter has called Santorum preposterous and wrong. Catholics For Faithful Citizenship have called on Santorum to apologize to “the good Catholics of Boston whom he has offended.” I would encourage them to chastise L. Brent Bozell as well. It is one thing to disagree on matters of faith and politics, it is another for partisan hacks to judge the validity of anyone’s religion.

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[CTLawGuy]

1. Bozell is an asshole

but Hillary would like him, he's against video game violence :eyes:

[bryant69]

2. Holy Crap

I don't know how devout Bozell is, since he obviously skipped over the bit about Judge Not Let ye be Judged. I mean I'm not a catholic, but I remember that being in the bible somewhere?

Bryant
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[powergirl]

3. ISN'T IT UN-CATHOLIC/CHRISTIAN TO CRITIQUE LEVELS OF "DEVOUTNESS?"

Those Repubs can't help themselves! It is so un-Catholic and un-Christian to pass judgment on the level of devotion of fellow Christians. As a Catholic, this does not really surprise me since this band of yahoos have maintained that Catholics aren't really Christians anyway. - you know those Mary statues in the church . . .:sarcasm:

[DanCa]

5. Welcome to DU Powergirl

Let's see I am probably the wrong one to ask since I was excummunicated by the catholic church but wasn't Pope John Paul 2 Against the War, Hand Guns, The Death Penality, and Helping the Poor? Oh and Sean Hannity you inbreed hypocrite name one religion that would approve of interrupting people on thier death beds for ratting like you did durring that whole Terri Schiavo fiasco. You sick pathetic troll.

[powergirl]

13. AMEN TO YOU

How right you are. Hannity is a POS. Those Neocon "Catholics" forget that they are supposed to protest the death penalty, war, and oh yeah - NOT HELPING POOR PEOPLE. Fortunately, even though I live in the Mother of all Red States, my Parish is "progressive" as far as Catholic churches go. My kids go to Catholic school and the principal HATES those Neocons. ON abortion she told me that if those NEOCONS really cared about the "unborn" they would help pregnant women by providing housing, food, support, etc. But of course that wouldn't be very "conservative!":banghead:

[DanCa]

14. When my mom was confirmed the bishop

slapped her so hard he broke her tooth. She voted for kerry. The church excummunicated me out for not taking pics of women entering abortion clinics. They wanted to put the faces of these woman online to ostrachize them and all heck broke loose when I refused.
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the big man in the sky say that were not supposed to be neither a scribe or a pharisee? Meanning were supposed to look for exceptions? Note I bare no malice to the good christians on this page for what happened (to me) in retrospect I myself probably could have handled the event better. It's just like when goons like this fellow open there mouths make me want to hit someone with my walker.

[TayTay]

4. Democrats are NOT 'Bad Catholics'

Fight this. There are some excellent talking points about Progressive Catholics and the Social Justice movement. We need to cull these sites for much better, consistent and powerful arguments for why John Kerry (and others) are not 'bad Catholics.'

http://www.networklobby.org /

http://www.catholicdemocrats.net /

http://liberalcatholic.blogspot.com /

Fight Back! This is from the Catholic Democrats site:
http://www.catholicdemocrats.net/on_manipulating_christ...

Facts regarding the Bush Campaign's approach to manipulating Christianity for political gain:

1.Even as the Bush Campaign began a massive effort to register voters at Catholic churches after masses across the country, their chief advisor for Catholic outreach resigned from the Campaign on August 18 because of a personal indiscretion with a student when he was a philosophy professor at Fordham University. Summarized at http://www.beliefnet.com/story/151/story_15158_1.html

2.Every Catholic should grieve the grave dishonor brought on our faith by one who claims that Christ has “changed my heart,” and then did so much to throw the world into a state of violence and turmoil.

3.By his prolific use of Christian language, this Christian-in-Chief more closely identified his Administration’s policies with his supposed religious beliefs than any previous President. Like a rude driver who prominently displays his college’s name on the back window of the car, Mr. Bush has done more to stain the Christian message than any major leader of the last century.

4. People around the world now equate Christianity with pre-emptive war, with public vengeance in the form of a haphazardly-implemented death penalty, with widening of the gap between the wealthy and the rest, and with the despoilment of the environment for personal profit.

5. Mr. Bush tacitly endorsed anti-Catholic bigotry by speaking at Bob Jones University prior to the South Carolina Primary in 2000. One measure of the philosophy of BJU are the published remarks of Bob Jones on the death of Pope Paul VI, whom he called “the archpriest of Satan, a deceiver and an anti-Christ, (who) has, like Judas, gone to his own place." Mr. Bush offered no public apologies for his actions.

There is more. See the sites. Again, get informed, get better talking points and fight back. I do not cede this moral argument to a bunch of war-mongering, poverty enhancing, worker-rights crushing bigots. Not now, not ever.

[DanCa]

6. Jesus rode a Donkey to Jerusalem

Not an elephant. That kinda says it all right there.
Good post Tay Tay.

[sandnsea]

8. hehe, that's a bumper sticker!

I like it, funny.

[tsuki]

7. Well, Parish Priests seem to be judging also. The Priest here

declared during the election that he wouldn't give John Kerry communion either.

Last month, he refused a very giving, popular doctor who died young, a memorial service. He was a member of the parish, and contributed to the building fund and CC. First, he wanted two hundred dollars to cover utilities, then an extra five hundred for the catering (all functions must be catered,) then he didn't think enough people would show so he cancelled it. It was never announced or printed in the bulletin.

Did I mention that the doctor was gay?

So far, I know of several young families that have withdrawn from the church.

[tocqueville]

9. WHO GIVES A FUCK about the "DEVOUTNESS" of a politician, judge etc ?

unless you live in Iran ?

How long will it take for America to amend the Constitution so that the separation of Church and State is clearly indicated and pass a law that clearly prohibits all interference of ANY religious belief in the exercise of the function of State and Government ?

Europe has done it, Turkey has done it, India has done it...

for God's sake

[Zen Democrat]

10. Isn't Bozell part of the Dobson apparatus?

I do remember Lewis Black really excoriating him on one of his Daily Show rants a couple of months ago.

[ClassWarrior]

11. In other words, BabyBork exploits his "faith" for personal political gain?

NGU.

[electron_blue]

12. Well, isn't that special.

These guys saying that have to find a way for Roberts to be acceptable. Most of them are probably Baptists, many of them fundamentalists, at any rate they are what they have long-pushed as "real Christians". Catholics have been a bad sect of Christianity for most of them for so long, they have to find a spin so that Roberts is acceptable to their following.

[emulatorloo]

15. The Repugs need to institute a "Jesus Rating" System so we can keep score

That is once, they are able to pass through the eye of a needle.