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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:13 PM
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If this get people some ideas, good. But it's so sad...
I try, like so many others, to wake people up.
I wrote this to some friends and family...


Subject; "There's a monster behind you!"

"No there isn't."

"Yes there is! -It's RIGHT THERE! Why won't you look?!?"

"Because there couldn't possibly be a monster behind me, therefore it makes no sense to look." -Famous last words.

--Watergate was a 'conspiracy theory' until it was investigated.

Then it was a crime.

The Nazi takeover of Germany happened too.
Guess what Germans called fellow citizens who said something bad was happening?

You guessed it - 'Alarmists' and 'Conspiracy Theorists'.

Pearl Harbor? I don't know.
The moon? Yes, I'm pretty sure we got there, but I've heard some interesting arguments to the contrary.

Holocaust?

Well... that too was just a 'conspiracy theory' until THE REST OF THE WORLD FOUND OUT IT WAS REAL.

What is the ONE common denominator that makes the difference between a 'conspiracy theory' and a 'crime'?

IGNORANCE.

There is enough information out there that an intelligent person can sift through it and determine what is and is not likely.

Do you know one of the reasons you 'hear stuff on Fox News that you don't hear elsewhere'?
They lie. They've been caught REPORTING DIRECTLY FROM WHITE HOUSE MEMOS!
Not that that's a big deal really.

But they TELL you what to believe and you do.

Why is the media FINALLY paying attention to the Rove/Plame incident I told you about LAST YEAR?

Because people like me who PAY ATTENTION kept badgering them about it.

Now to lend some education...

THESE ARE FACTS... SOLID INCONTROVERTIBLE ABSOLUTELY TRUE FACTS;

-Valerie Plame was a CIA operative who worked in a front organization called 'Brewster Jennings and Associates'.

-In July of 2003 Robert Novak identified her as a CIA operative in his column. This was printed as having been related to him by 'Senior Administration Officials'. This was also right after her Husband, Joseph Wilson, publicly spoke out against the administration's claims that Saddam had sought Uranium from Niger. (And it turned out that he was correct... and that the documents the administration used to make the claim were forged)

-IMMEDIATELY after the outing of Valerie Plame, Brewster Jennings and Associates, the CIA operation DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for brokering deals and therefore TRACKING WsMD equipment around the world, was dissolved. All contacts were lost, and an anonymous gold star showed up on the CIA's wall of honor. (a deep cover operative somewhere out there paid the ultimate price and will never be identified so as not to compromise their work. Coincidental? Maybe.)

-That asset is gone as a DIRECT result of her name being printed.

Period. No argument. It's a fact.

Now the independant counsel with the highest level of integrity, Patrick Fitzgerald, is getting ready to hand down indictments.

So what are the Republicans, who have the most to lose doing?

Lying.
http://www.observer.com/opinions_conason.asp
(try reading it)

Not only is Fitzgerald a Republican, but he has gone after anyone, Republican, Democrat or other, who is involved in possibly criminal activity.

Fact - the revelation of Valerie Plame-Wilson compromised a national security asset.

This administration has been involved in far worse, and is currently refusing to release pictures and videos of Abu-Graib which, according to Democratic and Republican congresspersons alike who have seen some of them, depict murder and the rape of teenagers at the hands of Americans.

But you're right of course... this administration couldn't be this incompetent or wicked. Therefore we must all conclude that these things never happened and go back to watching soap-operas and living in our happy little world.

After all, if we don't look... the monster isn't there.

I do expect the same level of ignorance I usually get from most people... it's just disappointing.

Did I mention that Watergate and the Holocaust were conspiracies until someone looked?

The Holocaust happened because of the very same creepy thing that you said earlier... "I can't believe that..."

And to this day people still don't understand how that happened. I'll tell you... because nobody wanted to believe it could, so they didn't look. That's exactly how.

Now here I am, one of the few German citizens painstakingly trying to wake my fellow countrymen up before things get worse... and my own parents won't even listen.

Now I know how those Germans who tried to stop the holocaust felt...


Hopeless.

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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:20 PM
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1. They Thought They Were Free
http://www.thirdreich.net/Thought_They_Were_Free.html

"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933,between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know it doesn't make people close to their government to be told that this is a people's government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing to do with knowing one is governing.

What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:24 PM
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3. Thank you!
I read that months ago and lost the link!

I've been wanting to cite it but couldn't find it.

I'm saving the whole article to disk.

Thanks!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:21 PM
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2. I'm reading Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them
If people would just read some honest writing and realize that so much of what they hear on Faux and elsewhere are lies, lies and more lies, maybe they'd listen to us. However, unfortunately, they'll keep believing what they want to believe and insist that what we're reading must be lies. Bush and his crew would never lie to the Amurcan people, no, not them. We must be mistaken. Why would Bill O'Liely lie? Why would Sean Hannity lie? I wish I could get through to some of the people who believe all this crap before it's too late for all of us. I'm beginning to lose hope.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:56 PM
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4. this whole affair is a blow-by-blow replay of Nazi Germany
I wouldn't be surprised in the least to discover they were plotting a literal reimplementation of the Holocaust.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:04 AM
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5. Population reduction
in Iraq is well underway. Who needs gas when depleted uranium is so cheap?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:03 AM
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6. pretty much the size of it
Bird flu, SARS, etc. are probably actually biological weapons at the rate things are going.
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