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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:25 AM
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Coingate Scandal Grows
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 10:34 AM by paineinthearse
http://www.conyersblog.us/

Coingate Scandal Grows
Is any state government more corrupt than the Ohio GOP?

Regular readers of this blog know that earlier this month - http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000163.htm , http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4033032&mesg_id=4033032 -
I wrote to the U.S. Attorney in the Northern District of Ohio, asking him to explain how it was possible that he learned about a massive scandal involving the Ohio and national GOP before last November's election, yet managed to delay active pursuit until well after the election. This is the one where the Ohio Republicans invested tens of milliions of dollars in state pension money in rare coins sold by an Ohio GOP fundraiser, Tom Noe, who also is implicated in fundraising problems with just about every statewide Republican as well as the Bush campaign. Of course, the many of the coins were lost. No response yet from Mr. White.

Today I learned that the same Gregory White may well owe his plumb job as U.S. Attorney to the same Governor Taft whose office is up to its eyeballs in the scandal and is now under investigation by, you guessed it, Gregory White. The Toledo Blade broke this story today and has been on top of it from the beginning. And it wouldn't be a scandal if our friend Karl Rove wasn't involved. It appears that the attempted fix for White's job led through the very busy Rove.

I'm sure more will be coming on this scandal.

Blogged by JC on 07.29.05 @ 09:40 PM ET

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050729/NEWS24/50729003

White touted Bush ties to help get federal post
Now he investigates GOP, Noe
Gregory White sought Bob Taft's help in 2002.

By MIKE WILKINSON and STEVE EDER
BLADE STAFF WRITERS

COLUMBUS — U.S. Attorney Gregory White, a leader in a multiagency task force investigating powerful Republicans in Ohio, asked for help from Gov. Bob Taft’s office to get the federal post he now holds, records released by Mr. Taft’s office yesterday show. Mr. White asked the governor to call President Bush on his behalf in August, 2002. A week later, top Bush aide Karl Rove was given the phone numbers of Brian Hicks, the governor’s former chief of staff. In February, 2003, after Mr. White was named interim U.S. attorney, Mr. Hicks sent a congratulatory e-mail to Mr. White. “Great to hear! The Gov. just asked me this morning if I had heard anything about your status. He was pleased to learn of the news,” Mr. Hicks wrote on Feb. 2.

The e-mails show a relationship between one of the lead attorneys in Ohio’s biggest corruption scandal in decades and the governor whose administration is under intense scrutiny. Mr. White could not be reached for comment last night. Both the Justice Department and the White House could not say what role, if any, Mr. Taft played in the appointment. On Aug. 21, 2002, Mr. White requested, through Mr. Hicks, that the governor call President Bush and touted his help as a local leader in the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign. In the e-mail, Mr. White expressed frustration with an interview for the post that had gone poorly. “I wonder what it is that went so badly. This is very frustrating to me,” Mr. White wrote. “I believe that my record speaks for itself, and I doubt there are too many county chairs for the Bush Campaign that worked harder.”

Josh Earnest, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, questioned whether the news affects Mr. White’s ability to continue with the investigation. “To restore faith in the probe, an impartial investigator should be appointed to find out whether tainted funds were funneled to the President’s re-election campaign,” he said last night. However, Julia Bates, the Democratic prosecutor of Lucas County and also a member of the task force, defended Mr. White, saying he is a man of integrity. “Greg is a prosecutor doing his job,” she said. “We still answer to our oath as lawyers and our oath as prosecutors before we answer to our political affiliations.”

Mr. White’s office has been investigating former Toledo-area coin dealer Tom Noe for more than six months. Federal prosecutors are trying to determine whether Mr. Noe skirted federal campaign finance limits by giving money to others so they could contribute to the Bush-Cheney campaign in 2003. The investigation has morphed into a larger look into Mr. Noe and his role with the now-shuttered $50 million rare-coin funds that he ran for the Ohio Bureau of Workers’ Compensation. As part of that investigation, prosecutors — including Mr. White — are looking into other state and local officials, including Mr. Hicks, who was charged yesterday with a misdemeanor ethics violation.

more.....

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:30 AM
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1. Any of this stuff showing up on network news?
Nothing's real til the Big 3 acknowledge it.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:47 AM
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4. "Nothing's real til the Big 3 acknowledge it."
And there will be nothing until DU starts making some noise.

The silence is deafening. Yours is the only reply. Not much at all in the Ohio forum.

Raw Story has a great new piece posted at noon that I placed in LBN.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:49 AM
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5. self-deleted
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 11:50 AM by paineinthearse
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:38 AM
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2. Links to prior Toledo Blade articles
Go to http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050729/NEWS24/50729003, get links at bottom of page.

RECENT RELATED ARTICLES

• Special counsel sought in Noe case | 08/01/2005
• Noe used influence to select trustee | 08/01/2005
• Scandal escalates, yet Taft stays mum | 07/31/2005
• Scandal escalates, yet Taft stays mum | 07/31/2005
• Pair guilty on ethics charge | 07/30/2005
• White defends spot on task force | 07/30/2005
• BWC drops Fifth Third Bank after investment losses of $9.7 million | 07/30/2005
• Legislators champion ban on lawbreaking lobbyists | 07/30/2005
• Pair guilty on ethics charge | 07/30/2005
• Ford tops money list; Shultz reveals Noe gift | 07/30/2005
• White touted Bush ties to help get federal post | 07/29/2005
• Ex-Taft aides are charged in ethics case | 07/29/2005
• Supreme Court puts Petro on notice | 07/29/2005
• Online gaming exec gained state audience | 07/29/2005
• Ex-Taft aides are charged in ethics case | 07/29/2005

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:57 AM
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3. Raw Story promises additional info by noon
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 11:07 AM by paineinthearse
http://www.rawstory.com/

Wife of embattled Bush fundraiser Tom Noe, of 'Coingate' scandal, tried to disrupt Ohio election... By NOON ET...

Edited - story has been posted - Ms. Noe's Own Scandal: Wife of Ohio GOP fundraiser does some election reform of her own
Larisa Alexandrovna
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:39 PM
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10. Oh wow
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 01:39 PM by FreedomAngel82
So it is connected to the last election. I knew it was. Just this strong feeling and the same players and everything. By the way I love Raw Story. You guys are great!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:51 AM
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6. Andthe 04 election may have come down to political justice in this state
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Ysolde Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:22 PM
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7. What do the local Ohio TV media have to say
about all of this? I'm not from Ohio, but I have been concerned since election night about what went on there. All of this just reeks, but I have no perspective from those in Ohio (other than the DUers who post these things). Is it gaining notoriety such that the average voter has heard about the goings on and is concerned? I mean, what kind of impartial prosecutor could White honestly be?

You know, the ReThugs have succeeded in turning our democracy into a clone of the one in Mexico.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:42 PM
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12. I saw a report
from a local Ohio news station they did a really good coverage of it. I can't remember what station or anything though.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:07 PM
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8. This whole mess is symptomatic
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 01:07 PM by cliss
of the Repub party in the U.S. And if you look closely, it's not just the Repug party. It's the entire country.

If the US were a patient, he would be in the hospital right now, in the ICU unit. The doctors are not sure what's wrong with the patient. He has weird symptoms, irregular heart beat, wheezing, short of breath, and his skin has a weird color.

We are truly a nation at risk. I've posted before that it's not just Ohio. I believe EVERY pension fund is at risk. The rats have infiltrated EVERY cupboard in the states.

They're just keeping very quiet about it. I think there is so much crap and corruption at EVERY level of the government, that it's too much for the press to handle.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:14 PM
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14. (Gasp!!) are you suggesting there might be a few Dems
involved in this sort of thing? Several months ago, I did a bit of research (mostly internet) and put together list of more than seven hundred criminal cases involving child pornography, rape-murder, rape, incest, pedophilia, devil worship with child molestation, on and on to vomitville.
I only included those evil acts wherein the political predilection of the offender was known or easily inferred.
Of that number, only six were Democrats! What's more, the ones who came up as Dems seemed to be, like Mayor Daley of Chicago or a certain senator from Alabama, Democrats in name only. To me, a dino is someone whose party affiliation is a stealth maneuver or just a banner to do business under. (I valued the finer dem ideals long before I made a political choice)
I have not researched the more common crimes of robbery, burglary, etc, since they don't have as high a profile and less info is usually publicly available.

It kinda makes sense, given the orgasmic appeal of domination, greed, and power to the average rape-public-con.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:32 PM
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15. No, I didn't really mean Dem's.
I just meant that this level of corruption goes beyond politics. It goes way beyond parties.

People need to start examining their pension funds right away. Who's managing it? What's their reputation? Do they have a criminal history?

Other departments need to be scrutinized, as well.

I think the level of stealing is so rampant right now, that we need to put aside party labels and look to save what we can.

But you're right though - Dem's are awfully clean, compared to the Repugnicans.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:37 PM
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9. I'm glad this is getting more attention
I don't know why but I believe it's connected to the last election. I have heard that the money that was made from selling the coins was donated to the Bush/Cheney re-election campagin team in Ohio.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:39 PM
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11. A couple weeks ago, I went to the Blade site
and read all the stories since last spring. Wow, what a saga! I'd been following it since the first story broke, but having it all laid out like that was almost like reading an old whodunnit.
I'm sure there will be a marvelous book at the end, if freedom of the press means anything at all by that time. It would be so cool if one or two of these incipient felons had an attack of the jailhouse repentance virus and exposed more of the personal, day by day machinations of the perpetrators.
Didn't Mrs. Noe volunteer her services as a law firm partner, recently?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:58 PM
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13. word from the "man on the street" is...
Everyone thinks the elections were rigged. My significant other has yet to meet anyone who even thinks otherwise.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:27 PM
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17. I'm still encountering people in Florida who are shaking their
heads and wondering why so many people voted for Bush. I had the opportunity to educate approximately 30 people about how "fair" the elections were yesterday morning. I think they understand now.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:48 PM
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18. in my SO's case they state the elections were rigged unbidden
They use it as a topic of conversation while she's giving them massages.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:25 PM
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16. What is the Ohio congressional delegation saying?
Is Stephanie Tubbes-Jones all over this?

Sorry. I'm in the Fascist Republic of Florida. We don't get much news from above 30 26 00 N unless it conforms with the ideology of the Bush regime in Tallahassee.

;)
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:01 PM
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19. Or Kucinich!
Only blogs/press I have seen have been from John Conyers. Prove me wrong!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:20 PM
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20. Rep. Conyers' letter to AG calling for special prosecutor
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