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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:01 AM
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Call them what they are...Neocons
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 09:05 AM by pstans
I think we should stop calling all Bushbots "Republicans". They aren't. They are Neocons. The are place all their allegiances to the PNAC, not to America, not to the Bible, not to the Constitution and definitly not the you. Calling them Republicans is an insult to the the Republican party and to America. We can work with the Republican party, we can not work with the Neocons. It is as simple as that.

To me a true Republican is a fiscal conservative that is for limited government. Wouldn't you be happy if our government was more fically conservative? Wouldn't you be happy if our government stayed out of your bedroom, away from women's bodies, and allowed states a say on the siting of LNG plants?

By pointing out the Neocons, the true Republcians out there might just see who they really are. Republicans have been trying to split American and the Democratic Party apart for years, it is now time that we do the same. The only way that Bu$h gets impeached is if the true Republicans come forth.

When we attack Republicans, people take it that we are attacking everyone. We can't win without McCain, Chaffee, Snowe, Lindsay Graham, Voinovich, and others on our side. It seems that a lot of times 1/3 of the Democrats and every single Republican end up voting for the Neocon agenda. Just imagine if 1/3 of the Republican voted with us. That is progress. I can live with that.

Lets call these thugs what they truly are...Neocons.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:04 AM
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1. when the republicans in congress support the neocons
unconditionally what else do you call them?

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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:07 AM
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2. I always try to call them Radical Conservatives
They are truly the Radicals of our times.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:07 AM
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3. The Guardian has no problem with it, as evidenced by this recent headline:
Bush bypasses Senate to install neo-con at UN

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1540492,00.html
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:13 AM
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4. i call ALL repubs what they are.....
human garbage
filth
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:17 AM
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5. Unfortunately the way to change this country is to change the minds
of people who are repubs. So maybe you'd be better off listening to the message in your own signature line instead of making judgmental statememts like that.

Just a thought.

Peace.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:27 AM
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7. There are some true Republicans out there
I believe that some Republicans still believe in "the party of Lincoln and Liberty." But for some reason they are falling in line with the Neocons, and "fundamentalist bullies with Bibles, Christians of convenience, freelance racists, misanthropic frat boys, shrieking midgets of AM radio, tax cheats, nihilists in golf pants, brownshirts in pinstripes, sweatshop tycoons."

When Voinovich voted on our side against Bolton, we won. Yes, he did get appointed, but the Neocon's credibility took a hit. When McCain stood up for the fillibsuter, we had a small victory.

Nixon resigned once he realized that his own party turned against him. Let me repeat what I said in the first post, "The only way that Bu$h gets impeached is if the true Republicans come forth."
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:49 AM
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8. i know what you're saying, but......
anyone who blindly supports war for corporate profits is garbage. period. end of story.

there are so many other reasons why they are garbage, but just that one is enough.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:06 AM
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12. It is not smart to call people garbage, when you need their help
It is not smart to call people garbage, when you need their help to accomplish your number 1 goal (getting Bu$h and the Neocons out of power).

You could concede and hope that Bu$h doesn't screw the country up too bad and declare martial law before the next election and then America will be so F'd up that people will have to vote Democratic. I don't think we should suffer anymore than we have already have.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:25 AM
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13. we're not going to get their help.......
we need our own people to rise up against evil and fascism and stupidity. we need the media to be held accountable for their misrepresentation of the facts. and we need the majority of americans (who do indeed hate bushco) to vote and make sure their vote is counted.

we don't need the help of the white trash, the corporate criminals, the fake christian fanatics, and everyone else who supports bushco. we aren't going to get their help anyways.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:27 AM
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6. call them what they are . . . Fascists! . . . n/t
.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:00 AM
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10. Aint that the truth
But calling them Fascists will totally turn people off and get them howling. Look at what happened to Dick Dubrin for 1 Nazi referrence.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:01 AM
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11. Dick Durbin is a pussy for backing down.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:54 AM
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9. Two days ago, there was a post pleading to 'call them what they are',
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 09:55 AM by Al-CIAda
"REPUBLICANS" - arguing just the opposite. I say no, do not let the 'good republicans' off the hook.

I'm inclined to agree with the post above, call them FASCISTS, but "Cons" (Hartmann) will do as well.

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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:48 PM
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14. Neo Con Artists
more like
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:58 PM
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15. I am torn. You are right BUT.....The Neocons wouldn't be in power
w/o the republicans and their support. Most Republicans have sold their collective souls to the devils to be on the winning side.
Not really sure who is worse, the Neocons or the spineless Repubs that give them the power.
Rhett
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