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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:52 PM
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house GOP leaders sent fellow repubs home with 52 pages of talking points
to be spread around during recess. some touting fiscal discipline, others touting spending. but nothing about the truth. WP article 8/4/05 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/03/AR2005080302218.html?referrer=email
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:56 PM
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1. How can anyone memorize 52 pages of lies and recall...
....everyone perfectly?
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GracieM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:56 PM
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2. Divide and Conquer?
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:17 PM
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12. i like to call them...
shrubs "disciples", go out and spread the word.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:51 PM
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31. It is still a lot less than the facts of the
critical issues of our times.

Here, memorize these 52 pages. They're probably double spaced in large letters and highlighted in color to show which they consider the most important.

:crazy:
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:02 PM
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3. They realize that Republicans can't be expected to think for themselves
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:18 PM
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4. and they...
better not f**k up or there will be hell to pay.
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BarbaRosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:41 PM
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5. They realize that Republicans should not think for themselves
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:55 PM
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6. another good point. n/t
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:18 PM
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8. Question
Do Dems have a comparable communication machine?

Should they?

-85%
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:53 PM
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9. yes they should
don't know how comparable it is though. you know how good the repugs ar at twisting everything for their benefit. and they stay on message no matter how wrong they are.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:18 PM
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22. Not Only That
But they can go on "Super-friendly" local AM Radio stations with their "Rush Limbaugh wannabe" local wing-nuts and spew all the shit they want without being challenged.

Like Coulter said a while back; they "own the media" now.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:47 PM
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24. that is the problem
the so called "liberal media" lets them rattle off lie after lie while allowing them to evade questions they do not want to answer.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:28 PM
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26. In a word .....
yes.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:17 PM
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7. I would lo-o-o-o-ve to get a copy of this...
Now that JQ Public knows what a "talking point" is..
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:54 PM
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10. yeah, keep your eyes open...
that would be very interesting.
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:46 AM
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14. keep a watch on raw story, someones gona leak it
u jsut cant keep something like this under wraps for long.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:37 PM
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20. yeah, they are a bunch of leakers...
somebody will probably open their mouth.
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Stil Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:05 PM
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11. My favorite part
Is the comments by repubs. This article will be nice cannon fodder toward the repubs at work.

"There's a rising level of frustration with the disconnect between where the vast majority of conservatives are in this country and how Congress is behaving," said former representative Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), whose Club for Growth political action committee finances the campaigns of conservative candidates. "There's going to be a wake-up call sooner or later."

Nothing like using someones own words against them.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 05:13 AM
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16. That's what Newt said. Republicans need to take note.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 12:52 PM
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32. newt also warned...
the repugs about the closeness of the hackett race. but you see them all over making excuses why it was so close. maybe it is finally going to catch up with them, they're getting TOO arrogant
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:21 PM
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13. yeah....they're gonna do a lot of talking...
They're good at that.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:52 AM
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19. yes they are...
too bad it's nothing but BULLSHIT!!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:11 AM
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15. Get your hip waders out :)
This is actually GOOD.

I've watched a lot of cycles in my 52 years on earth, after being drafted in 1971 I was really intent on seeing how they made war time after time - the thought process, who took over, how, etc..

One thing I have noticed is that once in power (look at Reagan, and then Bush senior) that it takes roughly 6 to 12 years to get rid of them. If they can be caught and the public actually SEES what they are up to then it's a shorter period, like Nixxon..

If they don't, once they've cleaned out the treasury and opened up all the grain stores, as well as set themselves up with contracts that will keep the money flowing into their and their buddies pockets, they seem to lose Steam.

BUT, one of their main problems is they create their "language" or complete bullshit rationale for everything. They basically turn into little robotic repeater stations and live for each other's next word, which they already know.

Then comes the "disconnect" with regular folks - in the end they right wingers reach a point where they start to NOT make ANY sense at all. It's like they are from Mars or something.

And then they start to lose, and lose big.

They've been working on this, acquiring media so that the messages are repeated so much that little kids will repeat in their sleep. Like in the Movie "They Live", it's an alternate universe and they want to blur the lines to keep us IN LINE..

The other way they have dealt with the problems is to get a "plain spoken" regular "guy" to be pResident - that way you really CAN believe that Anyone could be president, and hell, he's just like YOU or the guy down the block you'd want to have a beer with -- all those machine guns around him to protect him don't change him at all, he just wants to ride bikes and clear brush.

Watch for the DISCONNECT.. it's coming. The reality of bodies coming home will have citzens connecting the dots at coffee tables all over the country and the WOMEN will speak out first.

When those in the middle class suburbs started noticing a son was missing (DEAD) from every block.. ladies at tupperware parties were putting two and two together and then decided that maybe them "hippies" weren't so stupid after all..

The disconnect is here, but with them handing out 52 pages of it, it means that the bullshit language is getting too bulky to handle, it won't sell - some will forget talking points, some will naturally balk since their is so much of it..

I like it.

If only the Demos would get it together, but they have too many factions, special interest groups and believe in freedom too much to force people to lockstep.

I once told someone in college that America is So Free that we're going to "give it away"... I think I may have been on to something.

Keep telling everyone about the puppies and butterflies in Iraq Mr Bush - america is measuring your for a straight jacket or looking right through you. Go hide you worthless murderer. With any luck he'll be adept at using a chainsaw as he is at riding a Segway..

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 05:41 AM
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17. 52 pages of talking points....
the article doesn't mention they were also given a pitcher of kool-aid and a rubberstamp

time to stamp out the rubberstampers..... :eyes:
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:11 AM
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18. I would like to see Democrats make hay with the idea that they NEED
talking points.

It suggests that they

1) can't think or speak for themselves and

2) follow the party line like robots (out of laziness, fear, stupidity? let's go with all three).




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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:13 PM
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21. How can we get copies of this posted on the "internets?"
I hope we have a mole or two out there.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 04:50 PM
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23. These dirty fuckers. They don't even read half the bills that get pushed
through, yet they are going to go home and study this bullshit.

This in a nut shell should speak loudly of the fact that these mother fuckers are less serving the public then the public serving them.

With crap like this, no wonder this country is so fucked up.

colossal failure*!
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:27 PM
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25. they will go home...
and brag to their constituents about everything they did for us. of course it's all lies 'cause all they did was give us a giant screwing!!
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:12 PM
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27. Here, Here! This crap will only go so far n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:17 PM
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28. at least THEY have talking points. what do dems have? nt
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lasttrip Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:32 PM
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29. hopefully the truth. nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:47 PM
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30. Republicans ...
one brain.

There may be a lot of in-fighting among the lefties, but at least we think for ourselves.

We rule.
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