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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:47 AM
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Vietnam War Support vs. Iraq...the numbers show the end is near...
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 10:56 AM by truthpusher
Maybe some of you can help with more data, this is what I found (with my limited time) on the Vietnam support:

Link: http://www.seanet.com/~jimxc/Politics/Mistakes/Vietnam_support.html

Looks like the magic # is about 30% support...

from the link:

Support for War in Vietnam, by Age

Under 30 30-49 Over 49

May 1965 61 59 43
August 1965 76 64 51
November 1965 75 68 57
March 1966 71 63 48
May 1966 62 54 39
September 1966 53 56 39
November 1966 66 55 41
May 1967 60 53 42
July 1967 62 52 37
October 1967 50 50 35
Early February 1968 51 44 36
March 1968 50 46 35
April 1968 54 44 31
August 1968 45 39 27
Early October 1968 52 41 26
February 1969 47 43 31
September 1969 36 37 25
January 1970 41 37 25
March 1970 48 41 26
April 1970 43 40 25
January 1971 41 38 20
May 1971 34 30 23



From Newsweek - we are at about 38% now w/Iraq (Bush support) - the polling was different, but 38% is what I have gleaned from what I can understand - With all the attention on Cindy Sheehan, I would be interested in seeing what the numbers are over the next few days...here's the link to the Newsweek poll:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8849936/site/newsweek/


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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:50 AM
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1. There's a slight distinction here, though...
38% approve of BUSH'S PERFORMANCE in Iraq. The numbers who approve of the Iraq War in general could be much different.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:55 AM
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2. That's why I posted this, I am looking for some more figures...
...we have got to be getting somewhere...the bush support and Iraq #'s - have got to run close - Bush 'is' the Iraq war.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:42 AM
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7. uh

Bush's major policy areas (about 5 or 6- the economy, party ethics/leadership, social issues, military (Iraq) and diplomatic, and 'handling terrorism') are all running at a pretty hard 38%, within margin of error, except 'handling terrorism'.

'Handling terrorism' is running at ~49%. That's his polling 'ceiling' now.
Iraq is consistently his polling 'basement', pulling downward at just under 38%.

38% of the electorate considers itself Republicans or persistently vote Republican. It's the baseline of political Believers.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:02 AM
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3. try this....
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:12 AM
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4. Interesting: Old Folks more against war than the young
year in year out. And oldsters only pushed over 50% right at the very start of Johnson's escalation, subsiding into doubt/non-support immediately. I am surprised.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:14 AM
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5. a majority wants immediate or "near-term" withdrawal
here are some polls i found on withdrawal from an article written two months ago ... note that this was worded as "withdrawal ASAP" ... perhaps the numbers would have been even higher if the question included either an "immediate or near-term" withdrawal which is MY position ...

source: http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=2...
(Pew Research Center)

"Support for an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq continues to inch up from 36% last October, to 42% in February, and 46% currently."

here's another recent poll:

source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-06-12-poll...
(USA Today/Gallup)

"Nearly six in 10 Americans say the United States should withdraw some or all of its troops from Iraq, a new Gallup Poll finds, the most downbeat view of the war since it began in 2003."

finally, the Polling Report poll posted by another poster above shows that 38% want withdrawal in less than one year while another 12% want immediate withdrawal ... that's 50% who want near-term withdrawal or sooner ...

and here's another source:

source: http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0317-33.htm
(NBC/Wall Street Journal)

"According to a recent NBC/Wall Street Journal poll taken after the Iraq elections, 59 percent of the public believes the United States should pull its troops out of Iraq in the next year"
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gapower Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:16 AM
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6. So YOUNGER people supported the Vietnam war more than older people!
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 11:17 AM by gapower
Wow - as the author at the referred site points out, these data reveal that it's a gross misperception that anti-war sentiment was greatest among the young. In fact across this time period, support for the war was an unweighted 54% among those under 30, 48% among those 30 to 49, and only 35% among those 50 and over!

On the other hand, as might be expected, anti-war sentiment was greater among women than men, and greater among blacks than whites. And support for the war did drop consistently from an unweighted 54% in 1965 to 29% in 1971.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:30 PM
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8. Perhaps
That could be attributed to the fact that, the older you get, the more you become aware of your own mortality????
I am not the least bit surprised by the numbers...the young think they are going to live forever, because they feel that death can't visit them....they don't think about what it might mean to them to die tomorrow, or how useless it is, to die for something someone else wants....and of course, a woman being against war more, is also quite understandable...
windbreeze
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