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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:43 AM
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Cindy Sheehan has outmaneuvered Karl Rove
That just occurred to me and it must be driving him crazy.

She's done it without manipulation or dishonesty. She's done it with simple grace, clear & direct questions and a boatload of dignity.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:45 AM
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1. You're right
as the poll number show that more people don't think * is honest - she shines with honesty.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:51 AM
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2. I always had a feeling that it would be a parent who would take W down
I feared that it would be a form of violence. Never in my dreams did I imagine that it would be someone as soft spoken as Ms. Sheehan. This is as good as it gets.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 05:02 AM
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3. this scene is yet to play itself out. I keep waiting for the shoe to fall
While I agree basically with what you say,----we need to be vigalant as the Bushco gang plays dirty and the RW has already set out the attach dogs (Cindy changing her mind when first meeting the president).
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 05:07 AM
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5. and the dumbest thing they could do is yet to come
by arresting her

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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:29 AM
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14. TKO'ed by a grieving mom....
in a little orange sun dress and a fishing hat with a peace sign drawn on it.

although this picture shows her in her interseason gear:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:37 AM
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17. He doesn't think about OBL anymore, but he's scared of her?
What a pathetic, cowardly, craven, sick, "Great Leader" is he.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:15 AM
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20. remember when the simpsons joined a cult and willie was....
SUPPOSED to be deprograming but ended up saying "So tell me more about your great leader."

reminds me of the way people followed this administration.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 05:06 AM
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4. David and Goliath imagery
One poor shepard boy, armed with a sling and rock, takes down a giant - thus defeating an entire army

and today we have that image in Cindy Sheehan -- ONE AMERICAN MOTHER facing down "THE pRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES" - she is not armed with a sling or a rock -- just a question -- "Why did my son die?"

and "Goliath" is shaking in his boots - hiding

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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 05:22 AM
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6. Amen! Works every time!
Bless Cindy!:patriot:
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 06:21 AM
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7. It Does Not Matter Where One Starts...
The smear machines are already in high gear. By the time shrub Junta finish, Cindy Sheehan will be destroyed.

J Goebbels, propaganda chief for the Nazi, taught the big lie wins as long as it said over and over again. Who owns the media, wins!!



Bush Lied. People Died. Media Cheered.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:22 AM
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12. Goebbels...
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."


All Cindy has to do is tell the truth.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 06:33 AM
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8. Maybe she'll be like the Rosa Parks of the opposition to the
insanity of this administration.

I think sometimes it takes someone who has just had it for one reason or another, and doesn't much care about consequences.

These individuals can be so powerful in their message and the imagery.



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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 07:51 AM
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9. Well There Is Always "Enemy Combatant" Status.... Disappearing Cindy
Edited on Tue Aug-09-05 07:52 AM by emanymton
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 07:53 AM
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10. Cindy is an excellent field general, I said it before. She's got more
heart, sense, savvy and pure guts than any in bushco.

She mentioned bush has created many, many angels, with his lying war, and she believes they are helping her. I hope they watch over her out in that hostile countryside.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 07:56 AM
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11. Indeed, and they are trying to tear her down by calling her
a "flip-flopper" on her stance on the invasion. That will backfire badly on them:

First, it isn't true, but more importantly,

Second, the vast majority of americans have changed their minds about our presence in Iraq.

Cindy Sheehan is precisely who this country was designed for, and she's beating a well-oiled and well-tuned political machine.

It's a good time to be an American. Go Cindy!
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:56 AM
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18. She explained that reports on Bush misleading hadn't come out back then
Edited on Tue Aug-09-05 08:57 AM by wishlist
On ABC GMA with Charlie Gibson he asked why she didn't express her concerns to Bush before and she explained that back when she met with Bush after her son's death (over a year ago), all of the reports (she listed several such as the Senate Intelligence Report and Downing Street memos) had not yet come out showing that Bush misled us about WMD's and reasons for going to war.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:02 AM
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19. I'm aware of the entire story, but that RW TP was pushed right here in a
couple of threads yesterday.

At least one of the OPs has a granite comforter, it appears...
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:21 AM
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21. being labeled flip flopper
Will only help her more. Even if she was on board with the war and then changed her mind about it (which I don't know if it is true). The only thing that will do is strengthen her cause.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:27 AM
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13. Checkmate. Rove can't go after Cindy. It would be equivalent to going
after Mary, the mother of Jesus.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:35 AM
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15. Nazareth, 2000 years ago. Jesus Christ poses a threat (and he would,
indeed) to KKKarl Rove's operatives (read, the pResident).

Do you honestly think Rove wouldn't go after her? I'm only being a little humorous here, I'm serious, for the most part--he'd slaughter her.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:36 AM
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16. You Mean The Mother Of The Long Hair, Hippy, Anti-War ...
peace nic?

The smear machine exists to attack. They will attack, destroy or make disappear all.

Bush Lied. People Died. Media Cheered.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:32 AM
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22. He'll go after Casey - remember he'll make up any lie about anyone.
It won't work, but he'll do it because he really is NOT a genius.
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:50 AM
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23. yes, it must just boggle their brains..... n/t
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:03 PM
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24. The FishCutter Wife of a fishmonger, name lost forever, is credited
Edited on Tue Aug-09-05 12:05 PM by opihimoimoi
in gathering a huge crowd to join her in storming the Bastille... turns out to be the first step toward King Louie losing his HEAD.

It was a woman so pissed at the oppression, the misery, the audacity of Absolute rule...that she went bonkers with....GO FO BROKE....

Cindy will be this woman and will force Bush to reveal his cowardice ....lose whatever support he has... the slide downhill is becoming steeper.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:05 PM
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25. Kick for Cindy!
:kick:
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