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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:52 PM
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Paul Hackett should run for US Senate in '06
Sorry if this thread might have been posted already, I've been away from a computer for two weeks.

Anyway, this is something that I've been thinking about since the election last week and here's what I think.

First off, Hackett's numbers in a district that is 60-70% repuke are extremely impressive to begin with. He got 48% in a district that wouldn't have even broken 40% for a Democrat under normal circumstances.

Let's remember that Ohio on the whole is far more liberal/moderate than the wingnut central that is the 2nd district. Kerry got 49% in Ohio. Hackett got only 1% less in wingnut central than Kerry did statewide.

Also, remember that Schmidt outspent Hackett by what was it 3 to 1, 5 to 1? The DCCC wouldn't even fund him until the last weeks. Now that he is a proven vote getter, Dean and others will make sure that he gets the money that he needs.

Hackett also will be able to get the democratic base excited. Not to say that Kerry didn't criticize Bush on the war, but Hackett REALLY says what a lot of us have been waiting to hear from the Democrats, that Bush is a lieing chickenhawk who has no regared for the lives of our troops. He doesn't sugar coat his rhetoric, he really tells it like it is. Basically, I don't see any reason why the dem base that turned out in such great numbers for Kerry least year wouldn't turn out to vote for Hackett.

Oh yea and Mike DeWine has the lowest approval rating of any Senator up for re-election.

I think that with Ted Strickland on the ticket for Governor and Hackett on the ticket for US Senate is a dream team that will re-engergize the Ohio Democrats, bring many Dems into lesser office on coat-tails, and put Ohio in a great position for us to win in 2008.

Everybody else's thoughts?




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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:54 PM
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1. I hope people really back Hackett to do this
I think he could nail it.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:55 PM
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2. He has my vote. The sky is the limit for this man!
Very smart and sincere.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 11:10 PM
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3. pssst!
I'm hearing he is.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 11:24 PM
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4. Is this the man you want to represent you?

http://hackettforcongress.com/index.php?page=display&id=69

"No matter what your position on the war, if we pull out now the entire region will spiral into chaos and present our nation and military with a far more difficult challenge than we currently face. I don’t relish the prospect of my two sons going over there in twenty years. We need to get it right, and we need to do it now.

The Iraqi people and government are grateful that we eliminated their brutal dictator. They are capable of running their own government and building a democracy. It won’t look like ours; nor should it. But in order for them to succeed, we must not withdraw our troops before the Iraqis are ready to stand on their own. "


This is a man with absolutely no vision (Please answer me whether Iraq is or is not in chaos today and why?) who also took part in the Fallujah massacre of innocents (which was condemned by eye-witnesses at the War Tribunal on Iraq at Istanbul) - and with no remorse nor a passion for telling the truth.

So what makes him different from Bush and his criminal gang.

Jacob Matthan
http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com
Oulu, Finland
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 11:57 PM
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5. that is very disturbing
I have new reservations about Hackett now.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:04 AM
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8. Uh.... yes as a matter of fact...
He should run jmatthan!

Hellz Bellz... Kerry said we can't cut and run either. Hackett was over there -- he's not just blowing hot air out of his ass.. :eyes:

He's saying what a good deal of Democrats are saying :shrug: -- that the war was a BIG FAT LIE, but we can't drop everything and head home immediately or it will really spiral into chaos.

Didn't General Clark say the same thing?

Why yes.. yes he did.. :kick:

Rock on Major Hackett.. you'll make an awesome U.S. Senator!!

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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:06 AM
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9. Why?

Listen to Mike Malloy, Thom Hartmann, The War Tribunal on Iraq, Arundhati Roy, and many many more.

The problem IS the Americans in Iraq.

The US have lost this invasion and occupation, just as they did in Vietnam.

So get out NOW.

When will the US learn to accept defeat?

Just because a man stands as a Democrat does not make him right.
Just because a man has been in Iraq does not make his stand right.

Remember, Joe Liebermann and Zell Miller are also Democrats!!

Jacob Matthan
http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com
Oulu, Finland
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:09 AM
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10. And one more thing....

Are you claiming that Iraq is NOT NOW IN CHAOS?

Jacob Matthan
http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com
Oulu, Finland
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:07 PM
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11. Except for maybe Dennis Kucinich name one Ohio Dem who says differently...
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 01:13 PM by Hippo_Tron
And frankly I would love to see Dennis run for US Senate, but he seems to have no interest.

BTW, the last good plan that I've seen for US withdrawal from Iraq that wouldn't leave the place a complete shit hole was to get the UN to take over. Somehow I don't think that after Bush told the UN to fuck themselves and has now made John Bolton our UN representative that, that is going to happen.

Is there a feasible plan to pull out of Iraq?
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LandOLincoln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:12 PM
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12. "Absolutely no vision??" Because he doesn't agree with
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 01:12 PM by LandOLincoln
your pie in the sky solutions?

Have you ever just one time considered that professional military men like Paul Hackett and especially Wes Clark might have a better idea of what needs to be done in Iraq than you, with your ideology-driven "solutions?"

Please explain to me how your ideology-driven "solutions" are any better or more realistic than the Neocon's equally ideology-driven "solutions?"
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:39 AM
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13. Accept that America has lost this invasion and occupation

Then we can start talking about methods that will work.

Mike Malloy had a feasible approach in today's show when he interviewed the Democratic candidate who is to stand against Sensenberger in Wisconsin. He called the bluff and the candidate had to accept that he was wrong in his approach of staying in Iraq.

America is the cause for CHAOS in Iraq. It is the problem. American presence in Iraq only makes the situation worse.

Mike gave thew way it could be tackled -and although Mike Malloy always says he has NO ANSWERS, he gave an excellent one today.

You can listen to todays show which is archived at

http://whiterosesociety.org

It is not ideology.
Cindy Sheehan is not ideology.
These are fact!!

Jacob Matthan
http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com
Oulu, Finland
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:34 AM
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7. I suppose you have a better idea, then?
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:02 AM
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14. Very Impressed With Paul Hackett
I am very impressed with Paul Hackett, (with what comparatively little I know), and hope for future campaigns, and wins. We need to start sounding and acting like real Democrats again, from the real world, and not DLC Corporate-Consultation School. About Iraq, whether or not it is popular, I actually also support the idea of staying to rebuild the horrible mess we created--as opposed to what was there from before that we removed--by Bush and Republicans' inability to plan. They disbanded the Iraqi Army, etc. (as everybody knows), creating so many of these problems, and I think it would be immoral to just leave, "OK, so long, good-bye!" because we have no problems.

Many people have given examples that they think of to describe this situation and their opinion; mine is this: Imagine I broke into your house, started breaking all of your possessions, throwing everything around, stealing things, peeing on everything you own, then suddenly thought--"Wait, this is immoral...Bye-bye!" and strolled out the door. The response is, "Hey wait a minute, asshole, where are you going now? Clean up this mess you created, and pay for it." Although I have a lot of respect for those who are so disgusted with the neo-con Hell that they have made of Iraq that they just want to leave and think that our presence only makes all situations worse, and I do appreciate that opinion, I believe that we caused this total destruction of their infrastructure, etc., and we should fix it.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:14 AM
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15. I donated $40 to his congression campaign. I'd triple it for SEN.
All of your points are excellent...he also has name recognition and I think he handled the media well. He's also very attractive. Our party could benefit tremendously from a plain spoken, strong, white male candidate. White Males is where our party is most weak.

Could Paul be our White Obama?
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