No impeachment attempt: Democrats are foolish &/or spineless. Big mistake.

[mtnsnake]

I fully realize that any move to impeach would most likely only result in a congressional hearing to form an impeachment committee "to look into it." The thing is, if we don't even try, then it's just one more time Democrats have rolled over and played dead. The affects of simply bringing up an impeachment charge could be staggering, however. Just from the publicity alone, people might start waking up.....people who still think Iraq attacked us on 9/11.

We don't need a majority to bring up an impeachment charge. We don't even need the DSM, although I'm wondering why that's fizzled like a popped balloon. DSM aside, this so-called president, arguably the worst president ever and the most criminal "leader" in our history, has outright lied to start a war with a country that had nothing to do with being any threat toward us. That alone is enough reason to bring up an impeachment charge, and we're fools if we don't do it ASAP and take advantage of all the public dissent towards the phoney war.

Just because we don't have a majority in the House, it doesn't mean that we can't bring up charges of impeachment. To do so would at least make a statement, a statement that NEEDS to be made, and a statement that just might go somewhere...or at the very least it would send a little needed respect our way.

As long as there are Republicans, I'll remain a loyal Democrat, but it really disgusts me how foolish and gutless we are when it comes to putting our foot down.

We must not let the bastard, Bush, off the hook without at least making it official in the history books that an impeachment try was made toward him, regardless of what comes out of it. Whether or not an impeachment attempt makes it to committee...whether or not it only gets people talking...whether or not it makes a dent in his administration...whether or not it surprises the hell out of us and catches fire....well, we'll never know unless we try. I hate to think of this mass murderer getting off the hook scott free. The excuse that we shouldn't try to impeach because we don't have a House majority is the most feeble reason I've ever heard of for not even making an impeachment ATTEMPT. I know one thing: Snooze and you lose.

If we're ever going to do it, we need to do it now. Considering our position of weakness, the timing couldn't be more perfect to go for it.

Any brave Democratic congress people out there?

[mikehiggins]

1. Again, these people live inside the Beltway

even if their homes are in their own districts.

Even if it was futile, some sort of move towards impeachment should be started, and who knows? There might actually be enough honest Republicans to give it a chance.

Of course, then it would fall to the Dinos to kill it off, which would not surprise me in the least.

[mtnsnake]

2. "There might actually be enough honest Republicans to give it a chance."

Who knows, there just might be. For all we know, there might be several Republicans secretly wishing that some Democrat out there with balls would start something.

Like we both agree on, even if it was futile, we must try. That's the bottom line for me.

[In Truth We Trust]

3. Kicked and nominated-my sentiments exactly- good post

[mtnsnake]

4. Thank you. It disturbs me that there is so little talk of impeachment

as of late. Makes me realize how most politicians are simply too worried about their own personal political futures than the future of their country. Somewhere out there there has to be a courageous Democrat who's willing to sacrifice his political future for the sake of what's right. For example, if Bush is as bad as what's implied in all those emails I continously get from people like Kerry, then Bush deserves to be impeached, period. Instead of asking for more of our donations to the Party, it's time for them to walk the walk.

[wli]

5. anyone who tried would get assassinated, c.f. anthrax letters

There's a reason why it doesn't happen

[mtnsnake]

12. Come on now. That is NOT the reason it doesn't happen.

The only thing anyone's got to lose is their personal political future perhaps, and nothing more. However, if it's remotely successful, if it gains any momentum or positive attention whatsoever, the person initiating it could only stand to gain politically. Whatever the personal political outcome, it's a chance someone has to be willing to take.

Apathy in the name of paranoia will get us no where.

[wli]

14. but there must be some explanation for why Congress is watertight

And it sounds to me like fearing for their lives is one of the few things that could explain it.

[ClassWarrior]

6. John Conyers has begun this effort - but we can make it easier...

...for others to join him by talking about it ourselves - to our reps, to the media, etc. If they hear other people talking about it, the other Dems will find it easy to talk about it themselves. Remember, in a democracy, when the people lead, the leaders follow.

And, to get you started, if you want one of the stickers below - free - just PM me.

NGU.

[Dr Fate]

7. The "strategists" who lost the last 3 elections disagree with you.

Remember- attacking Bush "makes us look soft on defense", "confuses swingvoters" and "makes us look mean" or some nonsense.

[firefox]

8. There is such a thing as duty

There is also a responsibility for representation and there are tens of millions of people wanting not only impeachment, but a conviction that gets WarCriminal out of the White House.

How can you give anyone a passing evaluation when they neglect their duty?

[Independent_Liberal]

9. RecalltheCongress... Has anybody tried this?

www.recallthecongress.com

We can send unilateral congressional contracts to all members of Congress. They will be forced to comply or we can kick them out of office upon complaint by state court order.

I wish more people would pursue this. We have the tools. We just have to have the will power.

[Freddie Stubbs]

10. Not even John Conyers has thought doing so is a good idea

[Imagevision]

11. Let's wait for Fitzgerald investigations results to come in...

[Doo_Revolution]

13. I think its time to replace them all with Paul Hacketts!!!

Boy, I love that guy. :hug:

[Independent_Liberal]

15. Yeah, Hackett is a great guy...

Is he going to run for Senate in 2006? That would be a great thing if he did.

[Cocoa]

16. is this factually true?

We don't need a majority to bring up an impeachment charge.

[mtnsnake]

17. Yeah, this is how it works.....

I believe that any member of Congress can begin an impeachment process by bringing up any charge whatsoever against the president. How far the process moves along is another matter, but they have to look into it. A House committee would be formed to examine the charges and then decide if it was worth voting on in the House. If by some miracle the House voted to actually impeach, it would then go to the Senate I think.

While we might not accomplish actual impeachment, we can and SHOULD bring up impeachment charges and start the process at least, just so it starts some intelligent discussion, opens people's eyes, and puts another blemish or two on the chimp's record.

BTW, what Bush did with twisting & distorting facts to start a phoney war is certainly much more deserving of impeachment charges than what Andrew Johnson or Bill Clinton did.