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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:50 AM
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looks like Hastert took bribes from Turkey

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/10/1346254


Did Speaker Hastert Accept Turkish Bribes to Deny Armenian Genocide and Approve Weapons Sales?


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Vanity Fair alleges that Hastert may have been the recipient of tens of thousands of dollars of secret payments from Turkish officials in exchange for political favors and information. In the article, titled "An Inconvenient Patriot," Edmonds says that she gave confidential testimony about the payments to congressional staffers, the Inspector General and members of the 9/11 Commission. Edmonds says that she heard of the payments while listening to FBI wiretaps of Turkish officials who were under surveillance by the FBI.

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what'cha got to say Hastert?

what has 'congressional staffers'; 'Insp. Gen.'; and '9/11 Comm.' have to say?
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leftylady Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:54 AM
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1. Great.
Are there any honest people left anywhere?
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:55 AM
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3. Sure, if you leave out Repukes.
They're all dishonest.
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leftylady Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:58 AM
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7. I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has any concept of
honesty anymore. It's like we have just accepted that it is all right to function in the gray area.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:16 PM
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11. Makes me wonder if there is a concerted effort to smear government
For years/decades, the freepers have been referring to the government as "The Enemy." Now that they're in power, it's almost as if they wish to continue that perception with antics such as this one. If they can get liberals and progressive to view government as "The Enemy," they've succeeded in bringing about a realignment in thought regarding the mission and function of government, particularly the federal government (ala FDR's New Deal). Those of us who view government as a reflection of the people to serve the people as outlined in our Charters of Freedom need to keep thinking that the perversions witnessed today are those of a crime family and not of government as it was meant to be...
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:44 PM
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14. Sure. For example,
Howard Dean, Wesley Clark, Dennis Kucinich, John Edwards, Barbara Boxer - prominent Democrats are very honest.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 03:35 PM
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19. Don't leave out Lloyd Doggett from Texas.
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 03:36 PM by janeaustin
He doesn't get a lot of publicity, but he is a real straight arrow.

So of course, Tom DeLay did everything he could do to gerrymander Doggett out of his seat.

So . . . Doggett ran in a different district - - a long, skinny one stretching from Austin to the Mexican border- - and he won!


(Edited to improve punctuation.)
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:01 PM
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8. america is a crime scene


the other day I said this to a person who puffed all up and said that I couldn't say this about his country and stalked off.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:28 PM
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12. welcome to DU leftylady!
:hi:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:54 AM
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2. An Inconvenient Patriot
I have the whole article will post more later

by David Rose
Vanity Fair
September 2005



Love of country led Sibel Edmonds to become a translator for the F.B.I. following 9/11. But everything changed when she accused a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving Turkish nationals. Fired after sounding the alarm, she’s now fighting for the ideals that made her an American, and threatening some very powerful people.

In Washington, D.C., and its suburbs, December 2, 2001 was fine but cool, the start of the slide into winter after a spell of unseasonable warmth. At 10 o’clock that morning, Sibel and Matthew Edmonds were still in their pajamas, sipping coffee in the kitchen of their waterfront town house in Alexandria, Virginia, and looking forward to a well-deserved lazy Sunday.

Since mid-September, nine days after the 9/11 attacks, Sibel had been exploiting her fluency in Turkish, Farsi, and Azerbaijani as a translator at the F.B.I. It was arduous, demanding work, and Edmonds—who had two bachelor’s degrees, was about to begin studying for her master’s, and had plans for a doctorate—could have been considered overqualified. But as a naturalized Turkish-American, she saw the job as her patriotic duty.

The Edmondses’ thoughts were turning to brunch when Matthew answered the telephone. The caller was a woman he barely knew—Melek Can Dickerson, who worked with Sibel at the F.B.I. "I’m in the area with my husband and I’d love you to meet him," Dickerson said. "Is it O.K. if we come by?" Taken by surprise, Sibel and Matthew hurried to shower and dress. Their guests arrived 30 minutes later. Matthew, a big man with a fuzz of gray beard, who at 60 was nearly twice the age of his petite, vivacious wife, showed them into the kitchen. They sat at a round, faux-marble table while Sibel brewed tea.

Melek’s husband, Douglas, a U.S. Air Force major who had spent several years as a military attaché in the Turkish capital of Ankara, did most of the talking, Matthew recalls. "He was pretty outspoken, pretty outgoing about meeting his wife in Turkey, and about his job. He was in weapons procurement." Like Matthew, he was older than his wife, who had been born about a year before Sibel.

According to Sibel, Douglas asked if she and Matthew were involved with the local Turkish community, and whether they were members of two of its organized groups—the American-Turkish Council (A.T.C.) and the Assembly of Turkish American Associations (A.T.A.A.). "He said the A.T.C. was a good organization to belong to," Matthew says. "It could help to ensure that we could retire early and live well, which was just what he and his wife planned to do. I said I was aware of the organization, but I thought you had to be in a relevant business in order to join.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:55 AM
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4. Guess if by some miracle we impeach ** and Cheney, we can get rid of
him too.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:56 AM
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5. That's why he's waving buh-bye for the next election.
Sometimes your past really does catch up with you. Too bad there's likely chance Fitzgerald won't be around to take this one on.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:57 AM
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6. The Official gratuitous Republican Response
Provided to you as a gratuitous public service, here is the official Republican response:

(1) Nuh uh!

(2) It wasn't a bribe.

(3) Even if it was a bribe, what are YOU gonna do about it? Huh?

End of response.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:05 PM
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9. An Inconvenient Patriot Part 2
"Then he pointed at Sibel and said, ‘All you have to do is tell them who you work for and what you do and you will get in very quickly.’" Matthew could see that his wife was far from comfortable: "She tried to change the conversation to the weather and such-like." But the Dickersons, says Matthew, steered it back to what they called their "network of high-level friends." Some, they said, worked at the Turkish Embassy in Washington. "They said they even went shopping weekly for at a Mediterranean market," Matthew says. "They used to take him special Turkish bread."

Before long, the Dickersons left. At the time, Matthew says, he found it "a strange conversation for the first time you meet a couple. Why would someone I’d never met say such things?"

Only Sibel knew just how strange. A large part of her work at the F.B.I. involved listening to the wiretapped conversations of people who were the targets of counter-intelligence investigations. As she would later tell investigators from the Justice Department’s Office of the Inspector General (O.I.G.) and the U.S. Congress, some of those targets were Turkish officials the Dickersons had described as high-level friends. In Sibel’s view, the Dickersons had asked the Edmondses to befriend F.B.I. suspects. (In August 2002, Melek Can Dickerson called Sibel’s allegations "preposterous, ludicrous and slanderous.")

Sibel also recalled hearing wiretaps indicating that Turkish Embassy targets frequently spoke to staff members at the A.T.C., one of the organizations that Turkish Embassy targets frequently spoke to staff members at the A.T.C., one of the organizations that the Dickersons allegedly wanted her and her husband to join. Sibel later told the O.I.G. she assumed that the A.T.C.’s board—which is chaired by Brent Scowcroft, President George H. W. Bush’s national-security advisor—knew nothing of the use to which it was being put. But the wiretaps suggested to her that the Washington office of the A.T.C. was being used as a front for criminal activity.

Sibel and Matthew stood at the window of their oak-paneled hallway and watched the Dickersons leave. Sibel’s Sunday has been ruined.

Immediately and in the weeks that followed, Sibel Edmonds tried to persuade her bosses to investigate the Dickersons. There was more to her suspicions than their peculiar Sunday visit. According to the documents filed by Edmonds’s lawyers, Sibel believed Melek Can Dickerson had leaked information to one or more targets of an F.B.I. investigation, and had tried to prevent Edmonds from listening to wiretaps of F.B.I. targets herself. But instead of carrying out a thorough investigation of her allegations, at the end of March 2002 the F.B.I. fired Edmonds.

Edmonds is not the first avowed national security whistle-blower to suffer retaliation at the hands of a government bureaucracy that feels threatened or embarrassed. But being fired is one thing. Edmonds has also been prevented from proceeding with her court challenge or even speaking with complete freedom about the case.

On top of the usual prohibition against disclosing classified information, the Bush administration has smothered her case beneath the all-encompassing blanket of the "state-secrets privilege"—a Draconian and rarely used legal weapon that allows the government, merely by asserting a risk to national security, to prevent the lawsuits Edmonds has filed contesting her treatment from being heard in court at all. According to the Department of Justice, to allow Edmonds her day in court, even at a closed hearing attended only by personnel with full security clearance, "could reasonably be expected to cause serious damage to the foreign policy and national security of the United States."
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:08 PM
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10. So the Saudis control the White House, and the Turks the House or Rep.
Makes me wonder who is running the Senate and Supreme Court...
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:58 PM
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13. interesting thought

isn't Sharon in there somewhere?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:00 PM
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15. Partly explains why info was retroactively classified to keep Sibel quiet?
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:15 PM
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16. Raw Story had this August 3
See http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Vanity_Fair_floats_allegations_GOP_chief_Hastert_took_Turkish__0803.html

brettdale's "Vanity Fair floats allegations GOP chief Hastert took Turkish bribes" - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4255768 ... received a fair amount of response.

Thanks for keeping this alive.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:21 PM
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17. You know he did.
These repukes are all a bunch of crooks. Every last one of them.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:30 PM
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18. You know what, Sibel should get asslyum somewhere and just spill the beans
Easy for me to say, i know. But. God, how i wish she would just tell it all and let the chips fall where they may.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:30 PM
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20. An Inconvenient Patriot Part 3
Using the state-secrets privilege in this fashion is unusual, says Edmonds’s attorney Ann Beeson, of the American Civil Liberties Union. "It also begs the question: Just what in the world is the government trying to hide?"

It may be more than another embarrassing security scandal. One counter-intelligence official familiar with Edmonds’s case has told Vanity Fair that the F.B.I. opened an investigation into covert activities by Turkish nationals in the late 1990’s. That inquiry found evidence, mainly via wiretaps, of attempts to corrupt senior American politicians in at least two major cities—Washington and Chicago. Toward the end of 2001, Edmonds was asked to translate some of the thousands of calls that had been recorded by this operation, some dating back to 1997.

Edmonds has given confidential testimony inside a secure Sensitive Compartmented Information facility on several occasions: to congressional staffers, to investigators from the O.I.G., and to the staff from the 9/11 commission. Sources familiar with this testimony say that, in addition to her allegations about the Dickersons, she reported hearing Turkish wiretap targets boast that they had a covert relationship with a very senior politician indeed—Dennis Hastert, Republican congressman from Illinois and Speaker of the House since 1999. The targets reportedly discussed giving Hastert tens of thousands of dollars in surreptitious payments in exchange for political favors and information. "The Dickersons," says one official familiar with the case, "are only the tip of the iceberg."

It’s safe to say that Edmonds inherited her fearless obstinacy from her father, Rasim Deniz, who died in 2000. Born in the Tabriz region of northwestern Iran, many of whose natives speak Farsi (Persian), Turkish, and Azerbaijani, he was one of the Middle East’s leading reconstructive surgeons, but his forthright liberal and secular opinions brought him into a series of conflicts with the local regimes. One of Sibel’s earliest memories is of a search of her family’s house in Tehran by members of SAVAK, the Shah’s secret police, who were looking for left-wing books. Later, in 1981, came a terrifying evening after the Ayatollah Khomeini’s Islamist revolution, when Sibel was 11. She was waiting in the car while her father went into a restaurant for takeout. By the time Deniz returned, his vehicle had been boxed in by government S.U.V.’s and Sibel was surrounded by black-clad revolutionary guards, who announced they were taking her to jail because her headscarf was insufficiently modest.

"My father showed his ID and asked them, ‘Do you know who I am?,’" Sibel says. "He had been doing pro bono work in the slums of south Tehran for years, and now it was the height of the Iran-Iraq war. He told them, ‘I have treated so many of your brothers. If you take my daughter, next time I have one in my operating room who needs an amputation at the wrist, I will cut his arm off at the shoulder.’ They let me go."

It was time to get out. As soon as he could, Deniz abandoned his property and his post as head of the burn center at one of Tehran’s most prestigious hospitals, and the family fled to Turkey.

When Sibel was 17, she wrote a paper for a high-school competition. Her chosen subject was Turkey’s censorship laws, and why it was wrong to ban books and jail dissident writers. Her principal was outraged, she says, and asked her father to get her to write something else. Denis refused, but the incident caused a family crisis. "My uncle was mayor of Istanbul, and suddenly my essay was being discussed in an emergency meeting of the whole Deniz tribe. My dad was the only one who supported what I’d done. That was the last straw for me. I decided to take a break and go to the United States. I came here and fell in love with a lot of things—freedom. Now I wonder: was it just an illusion?"
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