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Patrick Henry Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:26 PM
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Here is the letter that helped get CDP to call for lowering of voting age
Here is a copy of the letter Natasha sent to the 300 members of the California Democratic Party's Executive Board. The vote was unanimous to lower the voting age. The unanimous vote also called for "full youth participation in conventions, caucuses, committees and other meetings and events in our Party." Natasha does not consider herself exceptional. She sees herself as a normal 14-year-old who has been blessed with an opportunity to help end the oppression incurred by her generation. In copying the letter here, I removed her last name and the name of the recipient of this letter in case infiltrators are reading this.



July 21, 2005

Dear ________,

I am writing to you to encourage you to support one of two resolutions calling for the lowering of the voting age. It is in the interests of the Democratic Party, in the interests of democracy, and in the interests of fundamental fairness that I make this request. My generation will have to live with the planet, the job situation and the world that current voters leave us. Currently, it appears that those who have the vote are making some of the worst possible choices. My generation can only hang onto the slim hope that Planet Earth survives the decisions of current voters.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 establishes a sixth grade education as legal proof of literacy. Title 42, Chapter 20, Subchapter I, Section 1971(c), of the U. S. Code establishes a presumption that anyone who has completed a sixth grade education “possesses sufficient literacy, comprehension, and intelligence to vote in any election.”

Like a great many other fourteen year olds, I work, I pay taxes, I pay into Social Security, I belong to a union, I take classes from a major university and I have devoted long hours to Democratic political campaigns. Close to the election in 2000, at the age of 9, I worked more than forty hours per week (with no pay and no benefits, other than the hope of having a good government) to get Al Gore elected. My brother did likewise at the age of eleven. Last November, my brother and I worked until after midnight hanging door hangers and literature and doing other campaign work for John Kerry and other Democratic candidates prior to the election. Yet, within the Democratic Party, there are people who are eager to see that younger volunteers have no say whatsoever.

Last April, over 400 people unanimously voted to adopt by-laws allowing those under the age of eighteen and immigrants who were not yet eligible to vote to become members and officers of the California Democratic Party Progressive Caucus (also known as the Progressive Issues Coalition). The Progressive Caucus was inspired by a resolution I co-wrote with my brother. My brother and I worked hard to put the caucus together. I was overwhelmingly elected to be an officer of the caucus. Subsequently, some of the adult officers decided they could ignore the will of the caucus by unilaterally, and in violation of the by-laws, kicking out the youth and the immigrants from the ranks of members and officers. The membership lists are being withheld from the members, and from at least some of the founders and officers. Therefore, it is impossible to know who has been purged and who remains on the roles. Purges and discrimination are an adult activity. My generation says “no” to purges and bigotry. We are asking you to join together with us in opposing the theft of democracy and in opposing blind prejudice.

Rather than going backwards, I ask the Democratic Party to take a step forwards. In Germany, when 16 year olds were allowed to vote, it was discovered that 16 year olds voted in significantly greater numbers than 18 year olds. While most 18 year olds are in transition, with changes in schools and residences, 16 year olds are less likely to have given up on a system that discriminates against those who are the best informed and have the most to lose when it comes to elections. My generation has much to contribute and we would like a chance to do this.

The 26th Amendment sets a maximum age at which eligibility begins. The voting age in both federal and state elections can be lowered with mild statutory changes. Other states are working to change the voting age. Let’s show them that California is progressive and that California Democrats care about the rights of my generation. Don’t let the Republicans beat our party to the glory. Let’s make our Party the one that is known for inclusion, compassion and respect for America’s youth.

Approximately 300 Americans have died in Iraq without ever having had a chance to vote for President. The sole reason these approximately 300 American martyrs were unable to vote for President was that they were too young to vote at the time of the last Presidential election prior to their deaths. The only way all of these 300 servicemen and women would have been old enough to vote for President prior to their deaths would have been if the voting age had been lowered to 15 in 2000. All people should have the right to choose the leaders of the country that sends them to their deaths. You can give that right to future martyrs by taking the additional step of calling for the voting age to be lowered to 15. Lowering the voting age would be a compassionate thing to do in the memory of these men and women.

Life on Earth is in danger of extinction from wars, pollution and global warming. Jobs are leaving this country at an amazing rate and homelessness and poverty are growing. This is the legacy given my generation by those considered old enough to vote. My generation is informed and we care. We want to save our future and our planet. Give us a chance to save ourselves and our future. Help make sure that at least one of the resolutions to lower the voting age passes. The civil rights movement is not over. This is your chance to make history.


Sincerely,


Natasha ___________

Founding Officer, Progressive Caucus (Issues Coalition), California Democratic Party
Youth Chairman, Patrick Henry Democratic Club
President, NYRA-OC (National Youth Rights Association – Orange County)
Founding Officer, Progressive Caucus (Issues Coalition), California Democratic Party
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:31 PM
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1. Sorry
I'm not getting on the "let's get the vote for 14-year-olds" wagon.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:33 PM
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2. I'm with you
There has to be a limit.
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:38 PM
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3. You're right. Let's repeal the 19th Amendment. Women vote? Ha!
Well, that's a limit. A 14 year old can be tried as an adult and sent to prison for life. If they are an adult for the the criminal justice system, they should be an adult for the voting system.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:39 PM
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5. They shouldn't be tried as an adult and sent to prison for life at 14.
And they shouldn't be able to vote either.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:40 PM
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6. I don't agree that a 14 year old should be tried as an adult
And I don't think they should vote.
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:53 PM
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11. They wanted to execute an 11 year old in Michigan.
There is a double standard going on here. Under the Civil Rights Act of 1964, a twelve year old is sufficiently educated to vote. Were those who backed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 wrong? Should it be re-written?
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:55 PM
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13. I would vehemently oppose execution of an 11-year old
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 02:56 PM by ibegurpard
And what is your basis for interpreting the Voting Rights Act as allowing for 12-year olds to vote?
Edit: I oppose capital punishment outright.
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 03:16 PM
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15. I oppose capital punishment, too. Read the Civil Rights Act of 1965.
It establishes a level of education essentially all 12 year olds have attained as legal proof of literacy. Title 42, Section 1971 of the USC uses this as a presumption of literacy, competence and intelligency to vote in "any" election. They didn't write this in a vacuum. They knew we would later grab onto this and use it to make things right.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 03:17 PM
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16. Take it to court and challenge it on this basis
If the courts interpret it this way then you'll get your wish.
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 03:20 PM
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18. How about if we simply wake people up?
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 03:20 PM by Albert Einstein
I don't know how we can expect to wake up Bush supporters if we can't even get our people to stand up for what is right and to work to fix bad laws. Bush supporters can point out that we don't walk the walk. Let's start walking the walk and overturn bad voting laws that disenfranchise our best voters.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 04:50 PM
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22. LOL...
"They didn't write this in a vacuum. They knew we would later grab onto this and use it to make things right"

"They" wrote those laws to keep the poor and minorities from voting since those groups had lower literacy rates.

But thanks for playing.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:06 PM
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25. Michigan doesn't have the death penalty
Michigan abolished the death penalty in 1846, the first English-speaking government in the world to do so.

Tucker
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:15 PM
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26. Now, now
don't enter facts into this.
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quispquake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:39 PM
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4. "Wild in the Streets" all over again....
Does this mean that all the over 30's will be eventually round up & thrown in intern camps & pumped full of LSD???
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:47 PM
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9. If they oppose the right of taxpayers to vote, they deserve to.
So how many hours did you work for Al Gore at no pay? If you worked less than the 40 plus hours per week that Natasha worked, then what gave you the right to moral vote in the 2000 election? There is the legal right and then there is the moral right. The youth have earned the moral right to vote more than most adults. The law is currently unjust and must be changed. Even Iran gives 15-year-olds the right to vote. A lot of people here are more oppressive of the youth than Iran.
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:42 PM
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7. Very convincing letter. Only cold, uncaring people woudn't be moved.
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 02:48 PM by Albert Einstein
I think it's great that the youth are organizing. I believe they should just say "no" to helping on the campaign of anyone who won't say "yes" to their voting. After all, non-voters do more legwork and campaign work than voters. If a kid can volunteer on a campaign, he or she deserves to vote.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:45 PM
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8. "If a kid can volunteer on a campaign, he or she deserves to work."
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 02:48 PM by MaineDem
We have 8 and 10 year olds volunteering. Should they be allowed to vote, too?

On edit...I misread your post. I read it to say that a child volunteering should be allowed to vote. Sorry about that. But I still think 18 is a good age for MOST people to be able to decide for themselves whom to vote for. Prior to that age most kids will vote for whichever candidate Mom or Dad supports. Sure, some kids will take an interest and make up their own minds but most of them? I doubt it.
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:50 PM
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10. Did you volunteer more than 40 hours a week on Gore's campaign?
If not, then from a moral standpoint, you are less deserving of the right to vote than Natasha. Maybe, instead of giving the vote to the youth, America should start by taking the voting rights away from lazy oppressors.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:55 PM
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12. You bet your life I did!
And on the Kerry campaign...and the Clinton Campaigns...and Governors and House races back to McGovern.

Don't worry, I've done the time. I'm in no way a "lazy oppressor". And I think you'll find most of the people who have been around here a while have also seen their share of civic duty.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 03:10 PM
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 03:18 PM
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17. "Have you died for a leader you did not vote for?"
Please!

Remember, no one is being forced to die until we have a draft. A minor point.

Point two, I don't think the voting age should be lower than 18. That's my opinion and obviously you and I disagree. You're not going to chance my mind by being insulting.

When I was 18 and unable to vote there were many of my peers dying in Vietnam. They were forced into that. It wasn't a choice. I was part of the fight to lower the voting age (and the drinking age while we were at it)and I've been part of many fights since. I applaud children taking an interest in politics but I don't think they are ready - on many different levels - to vote until they are "adult", which currently seems to be 18. (At the same time, I don't think anyone under the age of 18 should be in the military either.)

Keep fighting. I don't agree with you but keep up the good work.
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Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 03:23 PM
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19. Don't you care about them? Many joined because they were poor
It was the only way they could get an education. A rich kid could go to another country where they have the vote.
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evilkumquat Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 03:38 PM
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20. I am Way Past the Age I Should Care About This...
...but age laws have always irritated me.

In my home state of Indiana (screw you Bush!):

At 14 (or under), you can be tried as an adult for committing certain crimes. You can also screw people your own age.

At 15, you can get a learner's permit to drive. And you can still screw people your own age.

At 16, you can get your license, but you have restrictions upon it until you are 18 (including having to maintain good grades in high school). You can also have sex with whoever you want and NOT get your partner arrested, as long as they are your age or older.

At 18, you can vote, get drafted or voluntarily enlist in military service. You can also buy pornography. But you cannot drink or- God forbid!- rent a car.

At 21, you can do everything but rent a car.

At 25, you can finally, FINALLY go into that Hertz dealership and get that much sought-after set of yellow-tagged keys.

My point is, ONE AGE FOR EVERYTHING, because I am so sick of the hypocrisy of it all.

Evil Kumquat
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 04:51 PM
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23. Yup, 25 is the "true" age of adulthood...
...especially these days with the extended adolesence.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 04:48 PM
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 05:57 PM
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24. I suspect the DU Activist Corp would have a bone to pick with you
I suspect what we have here is just the opposite of a bunch of lazy bums.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:21 PM
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27. where is the link? any corroboration whatsoever the CDP has taken
any action like this.

It will be locked if it can't be verified.

Thank You
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:26 PM
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28. This is the plot to that '60s B-movie, "Wild In The Streets," isn' t it?
Max Frost, is that you??

NGU.


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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:27 PM
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29. Locking
I called the CDP and they don't know what the heck this is all about, and it wasn't voted on as described.
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