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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:06 AM
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Gas and Limbaugh
Yesterday I heard Limbaugh on my car radio railing about people being upset about the price of gas. He was saying that if you adjust the price of gas from years ago by inflation we were paying around the same or $5/gallon at the pumps then.

I hear this baseless argument from the right wing all the time. Do people really buy this shit? I know that 4 to 5 years ago (maybe less but then years seems to flow into one another), I was paying 98 cents/gallon in TN. Last time at the pump I paid $2.42/gallon. I'm not a mathematician but isn't this a 247% increase? My social security didn't go up and I bet noone's wages increased by that amount either.

Now the trickle down begins and the price of everything from taxes to a loaf of bread will go up.

On the upside ... SUVs will start to sell at rock bottom prices as people line up to unload them. Driving around town will be much safer and more pleasurable.

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:08 AM
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1. Bottom line is
4 or 5 years ago you didn't have the oil companies residing in the White HOuse. YOu had someone that cared in the WH. Those days are gone and I fear they're gone forever.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:08 AM
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2. The Flip Side - Average Wages Have Not Kept Pace With Inflation
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 11:09 AM by mhr
So, the average wage earner has significantly less earning power and spending power.

Hence, any increase in fuel costs is a direct impact on the average wage earner's bottom line.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:10 AM
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There was a graph in NYT today with gas on inflation adj. basis
and aside from the crisis of seventy two or four or whatever, it's the highest price since 1950.

What I remember is the election, when the righties trotted out a fifty cent a gal tax increase and said Kerry was all for it. he wasn't, but the righties were so scared of that fifty cents going to the government.

Gas was $1.80 during the campaing. So even a fifty cent tax would raise it to an astromical and heartwrenching $2.30. Boo, Kerry, he would destroy the economy!

Now Rush is paying exact same amount to the oil companies and the Saudis and yet, it doesn't hurt a bit, not a big deal, so what, nothing to see here./
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:10 AM
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3. There was a graph in NYT today with gas on inflation adj. basis
and aside from the crisis of seventy two or four or whatever, it's the highest price since 1950.

What I remember is the election, when the righties trotted out a fifty cent a gal tax increase and said Kerry was all for it. he wasn't, but the righties were so scared of that fifty cents going to the government.

Gas was $1.80 during the campaing. So even a fifty cent tax would raise it to an astromical and heartwrenching $2.30. Boo, Kerry, he would destroy the economy!

Now Rush is paying exact same amount to the oil companies and the Saudis and yet, it doesn't hurt a bit, not a big deal, so what, nothing to see here./
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:10 AM
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4. and what would he say if Kerry would be in office right now?
What does he say about when Carter was in office and the gas crisis then?

His partisan/GOP-can-do-no-wrong politics is as crappy as those who claim that Dems can do no wrong...but he has a far dumber audience.
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:17 AM
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5. Help me understand why you listen to him
I have tried, but find his demented rantings so convoluted and illogical that I can't justify the time spent listening to him.

Is it so that you know what the other side is saying, so you can be prepared to defuse their attacks?

And if so, have you ever changed the mind of even one dittohead?

It just seems to me that if someone believes Rush is right, they are so far gone nothing I say would ever reach them.

So, have you had luck with dealing with dittoheads? I'd love to know what works for you.

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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:21 AM
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6. You give the same reasons
that I use for never watching OReally on Faux.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:50 PM
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8. that's an easy one ...
it's like when you have a scab and know you shouldn't pick it ... but you can't help yourself ...

it's like when you have a zit and know you should leave it alone .. but you keep touching it all day to make sure it's still there

it's like when you get skeeter bites and you know you shouldn't itch ... but you scratch anyway ...

those things are like the RNC talking points ... I know I shouldn't listen but I listen anyways.

I listen only when I'm driving and depending on the time it's either Limpballs or ins-hannity ... 15 minutes there and 15 minutes home I know what's on their plate. I never watch Faux cause the radio fills me in on their shit of the day.
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growlypants Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:09 PM
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10. i cant listen to his rambling, oxy-induced
nonesense either. It instantly infuriates me and the next car I see with a sticker that reads "W is for Women" or "CrawfordTexas...Home of The president" I want to drag the occupant of their car and beat them on the side of the road like Rodney King.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:44 AM
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7. "Gasoline is still cheaper than it's historical high"
I'm so sick of hearing the right wing nuts say that. As if it makes things all better because this is the second highest gasoline price in the history of the world. The price of gas has gone up 100% in the last 18 months or so. That's the phrase we should be repeating. "up 100%, up 100%, up 100%..."
Every damn newspaper that has a story about the price of gasoline seems to mention the "historical high" smokescreen too. It's as if the RNC is writing all the newspaper stories.
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growlypants Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:06 PM
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9. yes but remember....this is comin from a guy
who spent THREE MILLION DOLLARS on Oxycontin.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:13 PM
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11. Good god! Is that true? Man!
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growlypants Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:16 PM
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12. yup. THREE MIL. If it had been ME.........my A** would
be UNDER the jail. So would yours (unless you're really rich!)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:44 PM
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14. A guy - Limbaugh - who makes over $20 mil a year
selling the workers of the world on the notion that BushCo and the Republicans love them, while they are picking their pockets clean.

Rush can afford a to spend a ton more money on gas, because he has a warehouse full of ill-gotten gains.
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cquik18 Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:23 PM
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13. With Porky being a rich mouthpiece for the GOP...
of course HE can cough up the dough for gas....as a sidebar,it's hysterical that the folks with a $100,000-$200,000 household income think they're safe from "the Homeland Kid"...some of the poor bastards actually think they're RICH! 200 G's is change under Bush's couch!
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