should Dems embrace war as a matter of political advantage?

[ulysses]

Spin it as you will.

[still_one]

1. not the iraq war

it was based on a lie

in fact the democrats did embrace it for political advantage, and look what it got them

[yorkiemommie1]

2. ditto

agree.

[still_one]

3. and I am also against so-called pre-emptive wars

[Inland]

4. Umm.. how much advantage are we talking about?

With a nod to the Onion's Point/counterpoint

"No Blood for Oil"/"How much Oil Are We Talking About?"

[ulysses]

6. heh!

:)

[Old_Fart]

5. NO

NO WAY!

[Stinky The Clown]

7. I am not in favor of the Preemption Doctrine in any way, shape, or form

And that's how we were thrown into Iraq by bushco.

As an unquivocal statement, I am opposed to this.

I am not 'in favor' of war. but I acknowledge that it is sometimes necesary.

Would we not be better off with a leader who leads for the right reasons rather than one who 'embraces war for political reasons'? Of we agree we don't embrace either this stance or a leader who espouses it.

Therefor I support a strong military and a firm grip on the big stick we need to carry while we speak softly to the world. Sabre rattling is pointless. Righteous stances and and clear warnings about specific consequences arising from specific actions are always valid.

[DemInDistress]

8. sorry but not bush's war on iraq

chimpy had absolutely no business cutting and running from afghanistan without the head of osama.In Dec.01'Coalition forces reportedly have osama surrounded inside the mountains of Tora Bora.What did Chimpus Maximus do? He pulls the troops back thereby allowing osama to escape certain death or capture. Why did he do that?Did osama place a call to the Saudi's and tell them to have chimpy pull those troops back.Whatever reason chimpy had to leave afghanistan is inexcusable and unacceptable to me...hell,I hated chimpy before 911,supported him after 911 then again hated him in 2002 and continue to hate the fucking scumbag

[IndianaGreen]

9. Many Democrats did just that when they voted for Iraq War Resolution

Look at what we got for such a crass political vote: a lot of dead people, treasury spent, a Vietnam-size quagmire.

Many of the same idiots that voted for IWR now threaten Iran with war. Are we going to let them fool us again?

[welshTerrier2]

10. no, especially when the majority disagrees with the war ...

what kind of craziness has lodged in the brains of Democrats who are finding a new hawkishness to be politically advantageous ???

at a time when Americans can see the folly of this war more and more clearly, most elected Democrats are justifying, or trying to justify, a new Democratic "tough on defense" stance by calling for continued operations in Iraq's unwinnable war ... it truly is madness ...

being willing to use force as a last resort when absolutely necessary is one thing ... Democrats need not hide from war when war is justified ... but to put "tough" ahead of smart is sheer folly ... the war in Iraq does not make any sense anymore if it ever did ... calling for withdrawal does not mean we are weak on defense; it means that we're willing to put our country's best interests ahead of merely "looking tough" ...

[leesa]

11. Are you out of your frickin' mind?

[radio4progressives]

12. What's up the brain dead questions/polls on DU? I don't get it n/t

[OKthatsIT]

13. F*ck the war machine and all its profiteers

[DerekG]

14. You can't say something sensible with your 666th post!

Quick, write something evil!

[opihimoimoi]

15. No, unless its to defend our Lung Land, Brain Land, Heart, Toes, etc

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

16. Which war? n/t

[Q]

17. Some Democrats are not only embracing it...

...they're directly or indirectly helping to coverup or condone war crimes.

The sickening part is that they're doing it in our name.

I won't be voting for any Democrat that in any way supports this madness.

Dean...as a physician...should be especially ashamed to have joined the voices that say we can't leave Iraq.