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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:52 AM
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Is the New Civil War officially starting in Crawford? I hope not.
As tempting as it may be to take the Reds on, this is exactly what the Reich Wing wants. The more we split the easier it is for them to get power. We desperately need to re-establish the moderate middle class that includes moderates from both parties. But I am afraid we have gone past the point of no return. The Reds will gladly give up their (and our)civil rights for a gun and a SUV. How can we avoid a fighting Bush Civil War.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:55 AM
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1. So a fringe element of lunatics vs. the vast majority of the American...
...people makes a civil war? :silly:

NGU.


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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:59 PM
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8. The Bush Civil War started with the Presidential election of 2004
50 million plus Americans sided with the Bush Administration. This is not fringe. They knew full well of his many lies. They rationalize that the lies are necessary for safety from "bad guys" (terrorists and gays and abortion supporters). They showed that giving up their (and our) freedoms was a price they are willing to pay. They still today defend him. The very clever Bushco has polarized this country into the Reds and Blues. And we are headed for violence. This will work right into their plans. They (Bushco) will use the violence to justify more controls and less freedoms. And the Reds will follow them blindly.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:55 AM
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2. No, but I think it will start eventually.
Understand that they are going to open fire on us eventually. Whether at Crawford or not. But I really believe that the Law down there wants to keep a lid on this, and that Texas lawmen do not look kindly on people who Start Shit.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:07 AM
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3. Ben , the opening shots...
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 09:10 AM by madmom
were fired at Kent St. University , this is just a continuation of the corporate take over of America.My friend we are going to need a very big union in the next few years.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:13 AM
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4. I know just the union you are looking for;
http://www.iww.org

I am a member.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:30 AM
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5. I have been reading about the revolutionary war lately...
And in both that war and the civil war there were at lest 10 to 15 years primer before they both started.

The revolutionary war was started because of taxation without representation and the quartering of troops. The stamp act and the quartering act started things, then various other tax acts only pissed off people more.

The civil war basically was about slavery and states rights, both tied hand in hand with the economic and social status of the south. And that had been brewing for many years before the civil war began.

Who can point out what is happening now that could be looked upon as the primer for a new civil/revolutionary type of war in today's situation?
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LeftyElvis Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:40 AM
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6. I'm afraid
that the middle class is becoming extinct because of bushco; you'll either be rich or poor kind of like in Mexico or Brazil.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:29 PM
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10. I agree, but some middleclass refuse to believe this can happen. Especiall
y in the Red States.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:48 AM
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7. The true redneck southner has never quit fighting the "old" Civil War. eom
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:05 PM
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9. I think I'd have to agree with you, a very real problem for those
that are having a problem with having to face a so called one of their own being ousted with having such a dark side. Therein lies a big problem with those still fearing to openly oppose this administration, they feel like it would be in effect cutting off their right arm for want of a better term, the anger is being misdirected towards the Liberals in this country by the continued biased reporting of the so called fair and balanced media, they do have a rising anger, it was inevitable considering today's issues, it just needs to be redirected to where the blame trully lies..

We need the media, as much as we dispise them.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:39 PM
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11. Great, great post. nt
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