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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:38 PM
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Tweety to Sheehan: "If your son had been killed in Afghanistan..."
The entire interview transcript is here:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8972147/

MATTHEWS: All right. If your son had been killed in Afghanistan, would you have a different feeling?

SHEEHAN: I don't think so, Chris, because I believe that Afghanistan is almost the same thing. We're fighting terrorism. Or terrorists, we're saying. But they're not contained in a country. This is an ideology and not an enemy. And we know that Iraq, Iraq had no terrorism. They were no threat to the United States of America.

MATTHEWS: But Afghanistan was harboring, the Taliban was harboring al-Qaida which is the group that attacked us on 9/11.

SHEEHAN: Well then we should have gone after al-Qaida and maybe not after the country of Afghanistan.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:40 PM
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1. Maybe we should have caught Osama when he was in Afghanistan?
Good for Cindy for pointing out the truth, over and over again.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:41 PM
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2. Yet the way she did it was not quite on the mark
and it is easier to do 20\20 quarterbacking

Then Chris why didn't we finish the job at Tora Bora?

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Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:42 PM
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3. I think she is wrong
Going into Afghanistan is totally justified. Their government actually had direct connections to al-Qaeda and 9/11 and was harboring Osama bin Laden. And unlike the secular Ba'athists, the Taliban were Islamic extremists who opressed women.

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:58 PM
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10. So do you think we should go after Pakistan?
Haven't there been al-Qaeda thre as well?

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Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:59 PM
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11. Them and Saudi Arabia should be our focus
Not Iraq and Syria.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:58 PM
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14. I think we probably are in Pakistan to some degree
In the beginning of all this, I thought that we would have to invade Pakistan eventually. But Musharaff has a tighter hold on power than I thought.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:04 PM
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15. So would Cuba be justified in attacking the United States?
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 03:05 PM by K-W
Since the same(worse actually) could be said of us in relation to Cuban terrorism.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:14 PM
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18. Not the United States overall. Just Florida.
And possibly Kennebunkport Maine.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:05 PM
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16. So did our government.
Should we not clean our own house?
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:42 PM
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4. Tweety's an a-hole. Why not ask if Casey had been killed fighting
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 01:42 PM by stopbush
the Nazis "would you feel the same."

Honestly, the punditry in this country is more ignorant than the general populace.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:13 PM
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12. To give him credit, he prefaced the question with gentle words
I got the idea that they had done a short pre-interview with her. She did not seem excessively discombobulated by the question, and she said what she thought.

I fully support what Cindy Sheehan is doing, but I do not feel that I have to agree with every single viewpoint she takes. I think she, as a Gold Star Mother, has a RIGHT to ask questions and feel however she chooses to feel about the loss of her child. I lose nothing if I agree or disagree with the particulars of her viewpoints, but she has already lost her kid.

As for Afghanistan, that's where we should have been doing some serious occupying. Right now, just like the Russkies did, we own Kabul, and the Taliban owns the rest of the joint.

It's what happens when you try to conquer on the cheap.

And Usama is sitting somewhere on a comfortable pillow, farting through silk and reaching for his third lamb kebab....!!!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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17. Tweety gave her an opportunity to distinguish Iraq from Afghanistan
I believe it was a legit question.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:43 PM
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5. Afghanistan was harboring the Taliban????
what an idiot The Taliban was the ruling warlord while the Northern Alliance was the opposition. In the middle were a bunch of "we've been here forever" warlords as well.

Afghanistan is as far from a black and white country as you can get. It's a HUGE mix of ethnicities and tribes.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:50 PM
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26. He corrected himself.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:43 PM
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6. Inane question
"if your son hadn't been killed, or had been born a girl, or suppose that dinosaurs hadn't died out, would you have a different feeling?"

Good answer though.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:47 PM
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9. Yes, he could ask..if grasshoppers had guns..you think birds would f*ck
with them? The word 'if' can be followed by any innane question you chose to ask. If the world was flat...you think Columbus would have discovered America? If.....next question? :crazy:
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:46 PM
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7. The Bush rationale is that both countries are all about the war on terror
so what's the difference where he was killed?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:21 PM
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20. It's our job to make the distinction, not reinforce their message.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 04:22 PM by BullGooseLoony
Which we're constantly doing.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:56 PM
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22. Yes but what IS the distinction? No one can agree on that.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 06:56 PM by MichiganVote
edit / spelling
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:57 PM
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23. The distinction is that Al Qaeda attacked us, and they
were in Afghanistan. So we went after them.

Others here will argue with one thing or another, there, but it's all garbage. Yes, Bush blew it, but he never does anything right.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:08 PM
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24. And they were/are in many other places too. Face it, Afghanistan
was the strategic precursor to Bush's Iraq war. Its all about planning and plotting. But what do I know...
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:24 PM
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25. Face it? Osama bin Laden was in Afghanistan.
You don't think we should have gone in and gotten him?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:17 AM
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28. But they didn't get him if he was even there
An entire army to get this guy and what do we have in hand? Not Osama.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:46 PM
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8. personally, the best reply would have been...
"I can't answer that, because my son was killed in Iraq, I don't know how I would react if he was killed in Afghanistan".

Don't play into their bullshit, Cindy, hang tough.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:56 PM
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13. How do you go after Al-Qaeda without going into a country?
She needs to just stick to Iraq. Whenever she starts talking beyond that - including discussing Israel - she gets into trouble.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:18 PM
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19. Bzzzt not gonna fly!
We have to get our fucking message straight.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:23 PM
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21. Afghanistan was just as much of a scam as Iraq was.
There has been no court admissable evidence that OBL was involved at all. There has been no investigation into 9-11.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:51 PM
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27. That's all the Taliban leaders wanted. Some evidence bin Laden...
was responsible. They were willing to hand him over but the Propagandist saw a chance to take over Afghanistan and build that pipeline for Unocal (don't forget, the new President of Afghanistan worked for Unocal).


Oh, and nice little tidbit: the new PM for Pakistan (Aziz) worked with Wolfowitz at Citibank.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:33 AM
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29. Excellent response by Mrs. Sheehan
I probably wouldn't have been able to resist just staring gawp-mouthed at the camera as Tweety blabbered his irrelevancy, then prefaced my answer with, "Well Mr. Matthews, as you well know from having your own children fighting in combat in this war that you have intermittently supported when it pleased your corporate overlords . . ."

By which point I would have expected my microphone to be cut or the signal "mysteriously" lost.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:35 AM
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30. I'm sick of the fucking "psychic press"...
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 08:36 AM by ClassWarrior
They don't report the news anymore - they try to predict the future and pontificate about what-ifs like pasty white versions of Miss Cleo.

NGU.




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