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Wed Aug-17-05 10:19 AM
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Who saw Sy Hersh on The Daily Show last night? |
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Makes me so sick that he has to be on the "fake news" show while all the usual suspects keep turning up all over cable news repeating the same old schlock.
It's getting really scary folks. Catch the re-run if you missed it last night.
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:21 AM
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out of me..............:scared:
I think his exposure of the possible invasion/attack of Iran a few months ago may have actually PREVENTED the actual attack from taking place.
I am worried about Iran talking to Venezuela...we could end up being a third world country if our oil supplies got cut off....
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:23 AM
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2. Yep. The Iran/Venezuela talks were a surprise to me |
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so we should watch what happens to Venezuela very closely.
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:47 AM
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12. Did you know that Russia and China are conducting....... |
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Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 10:53 AM by TheDebbieDee
an unprecedented joint military exercise at this moment?
The nations of the world are forming alliances among themselves to discourage a pre-emptive invasion by the US. It's like "Survivor" on a global scale!
ETA: He also stated that the new king of Saudi Arabia has a beef about the US position on the Infantida (a group tied into the Isreali-Palestinian issue). This new Saudi jerk may not be so willing to insure that the US continues to get the same amount of oil from Saudi Arabia.
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Wed Aug-17-05 12:05 PM
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15. I didn't know about "alliances" but I've read about their oil dealings |
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and knew that couldn't be far behind.
I've been trying to educate people about Iraq and Iran making a military agreement since first week in July.
You never hear that mentioned to the public.
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Wed Aug-17-05 12:05 PM
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Wed Aug-17-05 12:16 PM
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18. Russia, China military plan joint exercises, link |
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Wed Aug-17-05 12:23 PM
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19. Wow. Thanks. Now I can write some LTTEs with facts to show. |
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Wed Aug-17-05 07:55 PM
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:23 AM
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3. Until our government learns to behave, |
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we SHOULD be a third-world country. Weapons and oil are not safe in the hands of this government.
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:25 AM
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4. Except that they're still making bigger, better, nastier weapons |
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all the time - lots fairly recently.
Getting ready to fight an even bigger war for oil? God help us.
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Wed Aug-17-05 12:57 PM
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21. Yeah, I was thinking to myself: so much the better for the whole |
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rest of the planet! :shrug: Sounds only right to me. That's where the big boys (globalization and free trade folks) want us to go anyway. I'm not sure why, seems to me having a nice middle class everywhere in the world is better than a nice, impoverished peasantry, but that really answers its own question: an EDUCATED citizenry wouldn't put up with what they want to do.
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:25 AM
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:scared:
The talk of a potential Tet like offensive by the Iraqi insurgents.
:scared:
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Wed Aug-17-05 12:53 PM
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20. No thats not why there has been a delay |
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Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 12:54 PM by rfrrfrrfr
The delay in attacking Iran is due to a couple of things.
First Bolton's nomination got bogged down. Bush can't go ahead with his plans without a loyal stooge in the UN to pitch his scam.
Second Iran and Europe were in the middle of negotiations. Bush couldn't do anything until that had run its course. Which with Irans rejection of the European proposal it now has.
Third Iran had to restart its uranium enriching process. Which I think they are close to doing if I remember right.
The reason June/July time frame was put forth By Hersh and Ritter was that was when Iran was supposed to recieve the Russian uranium shipment, which they did, and That was also the time frame for which the Europe/Iranian Negotiations were expected to wind up.
Additionally they never stated we would attack in June/July. What they said was that plans had been prepared and signed off on by the President to be ready to attack in June/July.
Bush still has some political hoops he has to jump through,mostly at the UN, to try and justify unilateral action by the US on Iran. That process will take at least a couple more months to go through now that the other pieces finally fell into place.
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Wed Aug-17-05 01:11 PM
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22. Thanks for the information |
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appreciate your analysis.
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:25 AM
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:28 AM
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7. One thing I'll disagree with you on |
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As bad as the MSM is, they don't keep Hersh off. He does get a fair amount of "face time" on the news networks.
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:31 AM
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8. I've seen him, maybe twice, on MSNBC - nowhere else. Now he has a book |
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to sell -- that may get him seen more. The book is about Abu Ghraib "Chain of Command" but he didn't even talk about that with Jon Stewart - just the future. I hope he manages to do the same if he gets face time on major networks.
Where have you seen him?
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:36 AM
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9. Usually after one of his articles he goes on a lot of shows |
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Even Faux News has him on.
It's not that he isn't allowed on. The real problem is that he's so unusual. He's basically just a really good and honest reporter.The fact that he seems so different shows how shallow the rest of the media is.
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:39 AM
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I have to admit I did see him take on Fox once.
And right again about the shallow media - they stick to the safe bets who will have the usual answers to face off against each other.
Let's hope some of these bad Bush ratings and whistleblower items and Fitzpatrick events blow that open soon!
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Wed Aug-17-05 11:22 AM
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13. He was on when it came out in hardback some time ago. Now it's |
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out in paperback so he was on for the second time.
that's why they didn't talk that much about the contents of the book, rather they talked about what the contents have led to.
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Wed Aug-17-05 08:00 PM
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26. Was this a rerun? Chain of Command has been out a while |
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Good book, btw, though I think it only scratches the surface.
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Wed Aug-17-05 08:06 PM
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27. It just came out in paperback |
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which is why Sy was on TDS last night. IIRC, the first words from Jon's mouth were a plug of the paperback edition.
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Wed Aug-17-05 10:43 AM
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11. Sy had so much to say... |
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... and not enough time to say it all.
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Wed Aug-17-05 12:01 PM
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14. He should be on the Sunday Morning shows and Nighttime News - |
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He's a JOURNALIST for Christ's sake!
All the JOURNALISTS have been replaced with TALKING HEADS reading from scripts.
I WANT MY FREEDOM OF THE PRESS BACK!
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Wed Aug-17-05 12:13 PM
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17. Some discussion by last night's watchers over here: |
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Wed Aug-17-05 01:35 PM
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23. yes, but NOT A WORD about the abuse photos and this admin's |
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ignoring of the court orders, obfuscating with more arguments.
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Wed Aug-17-05 02:05 PM
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24. Now that those are in the hands of ACLU et al, he had other things |
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on his mind, I think.
What's he get to talk, maybe 8 minutes or so? It's a damn shame.
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Wed Aug-17-05 08:58 PM
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28. LINK HERE TO THE video of the SHOW... |
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Wed Aug-17-05 08:59 PM
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29. Moi.....and for old times sake, here is my writeup of his talk here |
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at NMSU in Las Cruces at the very end of March http://www.zianet.com/insightanalytical/
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