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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:01 AM
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very, very disturbing
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:08 AM
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1. A little hint would be nice.
:shrug:
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:09 AM
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2. I gotta say, I'm not at all surprised...
Under the federal RAVE Act, cops can bust any party they want, anytime they want, even if it has the proper permits, if they think it is a "Drug-influenced premises."
I think it's an obvious breach of the Fourth Amendment, but the Supremem Court hasn't heard a case on it since the law passed in 2002.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:11 AM
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3. montana500
downloading now
thanks
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:28 AM
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4. Can't get the video.
Either the link posted by Live Journal is bad or the authorities have already shut it down.

Man the police and National Guard are sure getting violent. What is going on in this society? When legit concerts can be raided, when protesters (in PA) can be attacked, is this the coming of the new improved brush police state????
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:44 AM
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5. In answer, yes
But I'm sure "is this the coming of the new improved brush police state?" was rhetorical.

They do not see such fun functions as being beneficial, and while they are able to paint our youth that way, it will continue.

Fact is, this type of hatred has been directed toward black youth for many years now. Witness the prison numbers. We're only noticing it today because they targeted the white kids. Blacks have already been so put down by the law, they can fairly well expect to wind up in prison before college, as a general rule, and what is THAT? Have the car stopped and searched by dogs, for any reason, anywhere. How would that make YOU feel? If your teenage daughter or son were the target of a brutally hateful prison system?

It's a whole nation that doesn't fucking care. I mean, sorry but it is, no matter what your thoughts are on the subject. Too many people for too long for no good reason, and the numbers are INSANE for minorities in prison right now. We're a prison nation more than we are anything else. Canada calls us "DEA Land" actually.

We just don't care. Until it's our kids.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:41 PM
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6. try this
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:12 PM
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7. Will watch later n/t
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SoCalifer Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:05 PM
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8. The way I see shit like this
Is that these American hating, Nazi, God Damn Sons of Bitches are waging war on American citizens and the Constitution itself. There is NOTHING else to call shit like this.

And as long as Americans are attacked this way, I for one can hardly wait for the day when we all band together and (under the red, white & blue colors of "our" flag and the Don't Tread On Me flag) once again lay the smack-down on all these nazis.

Then sit back and enjoy some popcorn and listen to all their pathetic "I was just following orders" excuses.


I took the liberty to slighty edit this great speech:

It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the American ministry of police for the last ten years to justify those hopes of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves. Is it that insidious militarization of our civilian police forces and the legislating away of our freedoms for the promise of security?

Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves why these peaceful gatherings, and peaceful protests are received with those warlike preparations which darken our land and subvert our Constitution. Are armies outfitted with war materials against lawful citizens necessary to a work of love from our government? Have we shown ourselves to be so unwilling to reconcile with those within our government who subvert our Constitution that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the American ministry of police have been so long forging.

And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last forty years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before all the thrones within our government, and have implored its interposition to arrest or impeach the tyrannical hands within its ministry of police and its own offices. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrance's have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation.

There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free--if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending--if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained--we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight!








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