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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:58 AM
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LTTE in The Day: Sheehan And Left Wing Take Moral Low Ground
http://www.theday.com/eng/web/news/re.aspx?re=ADF7825B-F5FB-46C3-8DD6-786DE993BD12
Don't know if this is a response to my LTTE Sheehan Walks The Moral High Ground http://www.theday.com/eng/web/news/re.aspx?re=98f42a1e-c45f-4953-8a3f-8262c4d6a0bd published this past Friday, but here's the Connecticut RW spin on Sheehan...

Cindy Sheehan is not walking the moral high ground, but instead the gutter of the American left and its twisted view of the world. Here are quotes from a speech she gave a few months ago:

“If George Bush believes his rhetoric and his bulls—t, that this is a war for freedom and democracy, that he is spreading freedom and democracy, does he think every person he kills makes Iraq more free?” “The whole world is damaged. Our humanity is damaged. If he thinks that it's so important for Iraq to have a U.S.-imposed sense of freedom and democracy, then he needs to sign up his two little party-animal girls. They need to go to this war.” “We want our country back and, if we have to impeach everybody from George Bush down to the person who picks up dog s—t in Washington, we will impeach all those people.”

Walking the moral high ground, indeed. I agree with Ann Coulter's Aug. 18 column: “We're sorry about Ms. Sheehan's son, but the entire nation was attacked on 9/11. This isn't about her personal loss. America has been under relentless attack from Islamic terrorists for 20 years, culminating in a devastating attack on U.S. soil on 9/11. It's not going to stop unless we fight back, annihilate Muslim fanatics, destroy their bases, eliminate their sponsors and end all their hope. A lot more mothers will be grieving if our military policy is: No one gets hurt!”

Ms. Sheehan, the media and the anti-war left have used the death of her brave son as a springboard for political gain. Shameful. With all the media hype of Ms. Sheehan's anti-war protest and comments, do people even remember her son's name?


This guy agrees with Ann Coulter. :puke:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:02 AM
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1. It's tempting to respond with a few more quotes from Little Arfin' Annie
But oh, the humanity! Mrs. Sheehan is making a political statement! I fear the letter writer has the vapors -- imagine someone using a war for political reasons. I hope he has someone at his elbow who will fan his fevered brow so he won't be overcome, the delicate little flower.
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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:06 AM
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2. It takes a Right Wingnut to ignore the truth so well.
Stay the course, attack Iraq, Ignore the FACT that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. It takes a right winger to want to punish the wrong person.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:07 AM
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3. Yeah. And the high moral ground is to stand by Bush,
a war criminal. Yeah. Sure.
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:08 AM
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4. A letter based on a lie.
It's foundation is the belief that Iraq attacked the US, and the US responded in kind.

When I discuss Iraq with people who support the US invasion, I focus on two simple facts: 1) Iraq was not responsible for 9/11, and 2) Iraq had no WMDs. Therefore, Iraq was not a threat, the US should not be there, and should never have gone there.

All too often, the response is blank stares.

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:08 AM
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5. "...the entire nation was attacked on 9/11"
...Where is the proof in this propaganda statement? Certainly not in the 9-11 Commission Report. America still does not know why the 9-11 attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon took place and by whom these attacks were directed.

In addition, the statement, "...Ms. Sheehan, the media and the anti-war left have used the death of her brave son as a springboard for political gain", I believe is also misinformation. There have been 1,863 plus American soldiers killed in Iraq and the vigil is supported by many of the other families affected.

What is the moral high ground that supporters of Bush's War claim?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:13 AM
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6. Since when is mass murder the moral high ground?
...annihilate Muslim fanatics ...
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:15 AM
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7. The left is in the gutter
to rescue the truth where the RW cast it away. And what political gain is there in the truth? Does it stop it from being true or is it that what props up the politics of the RW is only lies for political gain? The writer puts himself at the poles of a struggle that makes his own stand as extreme as the left could only wish for. That death is life and that truth is the only hope for people to gain back political power to stop a crime and a lie and make themselves truly safe.

The other fabric of lies and insults merely highlights the exposure.

BTW, when Bush said "I need to get on with my life" perhaps he too was irritated that such quibblings by people donating their children's lives to the Armed Forces are interfering with something or other. But I believe instead this is Bush at his most revealing dumbness, caught out echoing some discussion about Sheehan they must have had in Crawford. I had some personal experience of this phenomenon when I wrote a passioned letter asking some reporter or other in the great MS<M not to support or vote for Bush in 2000, merely to obtain access. Coincidentally the next day Bush was joking about reporters being nice to him or else they would lose access.

It seemed to me then as now Bush betrays discussions with others this oblique way that might be seen better as what he thinks about protesters. That Cindy "should get on with her life" was supposed to be the subtle message. But Bush for all his smirks and sneering does not do subtle very well or clearly. especially since he knew that openly snapping she should get on with her life was so terrible that putting it as his own example seemed acceptable in comparison- and his real thought about the matter in any case.

Like the letter writer, unfortunately a thoroughgoing expletive deleted of your appropriate choice. BTW also, I felt more personally attacked by the anthrax mailings, and nothing was done about that killer of domestic origin. As far as "we" fighting back, I think it is the Armed Services not Ann Coulter's mouth that is cast into action, albeit in the wrong country.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:25 AM
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11. A couple of things were done
Someone at the FBI ordered that the meticulous records kept of all the weaponized anthrax be destroyed, and they were.
Since when does the FBI dictate records maintenance to the Army? We could know the names of two more traitors right now: who ordered the records destruction and who complied with that order.
And weeks before the anthrax attacks the white house occupants were all given cipro.
Of course we already know the names of those traitors.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:18 AM
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8. America has been under relentless attack from Islamic terrorists for 20 ye
Ok so tell me was Saddam an Islamic Terrorist? He ran a Secular government where women had equal rights. That can not be said about Iraq today.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:18 AM
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9. "the entire nation was attacked on 9/11" BY NON-IRAQIS
Get it through your thick fucking skulls, you dumbass freepers,

IRAQ DIDN'T HAVE SHIT TO DO WITH 9/11.

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RaulGroom Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:22 AM
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10. In a weird way there is a very positive sign here
The only justification left for the Iraq mess is the nonsensical "they attacked us on 9/11" blather, which has never been palatable to more than about 25% of the US population. That's why the number of people supporting this war continues to dwindle.

Eventually idiots like this will be the only ones supporting this war. All the sophisticated lies have fallen away, and we're left with this pap...

Too bad so many people had to die before all the smart people realized that the Iraq war makes no sense.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:30 AM
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14. Totally agree
It would be funny watching the wingnuts implode, if people weren't getting killed because of all the lies.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:07 AM
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12. Another LTTE writer responds to this idiots LTTE: Show A Little Compassion
http://www.theday.com/eng/web/news/re.aspx?re=75DD69C5-EF5F-474F-8922-31120CBAAF6E

Based on the letter to The Day titled “Sheehan and left wing take moral low ground,” published Aug. 22, it seems that the writer has no compassion for a grieving mother whose son, Casey, gave the ultimate sacrifice in the war.

Cindy Sheehan is a mother who has lost her child. A mother should never have to face the reality that the child, whom she watched take the first bus ride to school and who once laid in the safety of a crib is now dead.

And the letter writer ridiculously believes that Ms. Sheehan has no right to be emotional.

Likewise, I'm sure Bill O'Reilly would just tell Ms. Sheehan to “shut up.” That attitude in and of itself is immoral.

It's also ironic that the letter writer believes morality is at stake and quotes from Ann Coulter, of all people. This is the same Ann Coulter who once disturbingly joked, “My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to The New York Times building.”

Is Ann Coulter someone who should be taken seriously when she discusses morality? I don't think the letter writer should be taken seriously either.

I am against this war, but I, similarly, wouldn't attack a grieving mother who favors the war. It's called compassion. I think the letter writer has been watching too much Fox News.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:28 AM
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13. Agrees with Ann C. - that sez it all...
:boring:
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 02:48 PM
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15. Another Eastern CT writer spanks this LTTE writer
in yesterday's The Day

The LTTE responder is a man from Griswold, CT.

Sheehan's Actions Not At The Gutter Level
http://www.theday.com/eng/web/news/re.aspx?re=3d08ead3-5f5c-4371-adbd-0a64d13a16c8
Excuse me, did the writer of the letter titled “Sheehan and left wing take moral low ground,” published Aug. 22, really mean to say that Cindy Sheehan is in the “gutter” and that it is “shameful” that some are proud of Ms. Sheehan's comments?

I have adjectives of my own for people like Ann Coulter, when it comes to defending this war. “Unhinged” and “factually challenged” come to mind.

Can the letter writer or Ms. Coulter please explain to me how the terrorist acts perpetrated by pan-national Islamic fundamentalists on Sept. 11, 2001, justified the invasion of Saddam Hussein's secularist dictatorship in Iraq? I thought we were there to remove weapons of mass destruction? Stabilize the region? Get rid of a ruthless dictator? Spread democracy in the Middle East?

This week we're “taking the fight to the enemy?” Last I checked, the enemy was still in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and such. They just happen to be immigrating to Iraq now that President George W. Bush, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney have turned Iraq into Afghanistan (circa 1980).

Let's face it, the brazen dishonesty of this administration, and its apologists like Ann Coulter, are the true “gutters” here, not the outspoken citizens who oppose this hypocrisy.

I hope all of our proud men and women in uniform are brought home soon, and safely, from this illogical war.
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