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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:19 PM
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Abu Ghraib General Lambastes Bush Administration
Abu Ghraib General Lambastes Bush Administration
By Marjorie Cohn
t r u t h o u t | Report

Wednesday 24 August 2005

I had been hesitant to speak out before because this Administration is so vindictive. But now I will ... Anybody who confronts this Administration or Rumsfeld or the Pentagon with a true assessment, they find themselves either out of a job, out of their positions, fired, relieved or chastised. Their career comes to an end.
-- Janis Karpinski, interview with Marjorie Cohn, August 3, 2005

Karpinski said that General Shinseki briefed Rumsfeld that "he can't win this war, if they insist on invading Iraq, he can't win this war with less than 300,000 soldiers." Rumsfeld reportedly ordered Shinseki to go back and find a way to do this with 125,000 to 130,000, but Shinseki came back and said they couldn't do the job with that number. "What did Rumsfeld do?" Karpinski asked rhetorically. "If you can't agree with me, I'm going to find somebody who can. He made Shinseki a lame duck, for all practical purposes, and brought in Schoomaker. And Schoomaker got it. He said, 'Oh yes sir, we can do this with 125,000.'"

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That's how Rumsfeld and the Pentagon reward people who are in agreement with them. I don't know how else to say it. Shinseki, who was telling Rumsfeld the truth - he was retired.

Anybody who confronts this Administration or Rumsfeld or the Pentagon with a true assessment, they find themselves either out of a job, out of their positions, fired, relieved or chastised. Their career comes to an end.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/082405Z.shtml
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:22 PM
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1. You either march in lockstep to the beat of their drummer or you are out
of there.
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:22 PM
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2. I just wonder....
if she just every now and then wishes she had a dozen naked Iraqi men she could stack in her bedroom and humiliate. Telling us this now General means nothing!
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:28 PM
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3. I don't agree. It gives us a good idea of how these guys operate
:kick:
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:51 PM
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6. umaybeewright
She follows a long list of people who were more concerned with coving their asses first.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:29 PM
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4. The CIA "civilian contractors" (mercenaries)
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 03:31 PM by Coastie for Truth
took over the chain of command at AG - and "used" the Lyndie Englands and Charlie Grainers.

And it would not surprise me if the CIA "civilian contractors" (mercenaries) were working for Cheney and Rummie and Wolfie and Cambone - outside Karpinski's chain of command. I take Karpinski's statements as further corroboration of the murky role of the CIA "civilian contractors" (mercenaries).
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:50 PM
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5. The destruction of the military's cadre of top leadership is
one more result of the wrecking crew which now occupies the WH.Rummy has made certain that the brass know that you kowtow to the neo con Mandarins or you retire. Think back to how hard it was to get anybody to accept top Army posts after what happened to Shinseki.
They are in the process of destroying the all volunteer Army, the system of Reserve and Guard readiness, billions of dollars of materiel, the integrity of the promotion practices of the services, and no one calls them on it.
How these thugs continue to get away with ripping apart key elements of our way of life is astounding to me.
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