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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:23 PM
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M.A.F. war moms want to "congratulate Bush and express their appreciation"
Bush backers head to Crawford

02:12 PM CDT on Friday, August 26, 2005

By CYNTHIA VEGA / WFAA-TV

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa050826_wz_moveamerica.b0324179.html

Proclaiming their pride in President Bush and their support for the war in Iraq, a caravan of Californians stopped in North Texas Friday morning headed to the Bush ranch in Crawford. The group, calling itself Move America Forward, intends to make its views known during a peace rally on Saturday featuring Cindy Sheehan, whose son, Casey, is among the more than 1,800 U.S. casualties of the Iraq conflict.

The Move America Forward caravan consisted of about a dozen people—primarily mothers of military men and women—who say they are committed to supporting America's troops overseas and the president's initiatives to fight terrorism. During a news conference at Union Station in downtown Dallas, military mom Deborah Johns said she feels confused and hurt by recent statements attributed to Sheehan.

Johns said her group—like Sheehan—would like to arrange a meeting with the president. Johns said they would like to congratulate Bush and express their appreciation for his persistence in the war on terrorism.



"Debra Johns, the mother of a Marine, said she is confused by statements from Cindy Sheehan"
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:25 PM
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1. Her son: Alive or dead?
That makes a difference, I would say.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:29 PM
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3. That's the MSM for you...none of the articles fill in that little detail.
Yes, absolutely...if she wants to thank and congratulate Bush on the way he's handled the war, AND she lost her son, it makes a difference.

That's another aspect of the Bush "legacy"...mom vs. mom.

:grr:
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:01 PM
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10. From what I can gather...
... her son is alive and doing advanced recon training in San Diego.

Move America Forward is probably footing the bill for this one (same group that did PR and advance work for the Swift Boat Liars), and the curious thing is that the group they've put together is apparently new for this little trek to Texas, and is sort of variation on a theme. Johns is associated with a group called "Marine Moms and Military Families," which seems to predate this latest group, which is called, "Northern California Marine Moms."

Apparently, Johns is an old hand at supporting Bush:

Anti-war protest provokes debate, vandalism
The Associated Press
Published 6:10 pm PST Tuesday, February 15, 2005
SACRAMENTO (AP) - The anti-war message a suburban couple hung below the rafters of their home was meant to be provocative: It's a soldier's uniform, complete with helmet and gloves, and the sign "Bush Lied. I Died," painted in black and white.

Since Stephen and Virginia Pearcy put up the display, it has been vandalized twice and put up again. Police are investigating the vandalism reports as well as a claim by a military mother that the display should be investigated as a hate crime.

"It's a message of dissent over the war in Iraq," Stephen Pearcy said. "The soldiers are being left out to hang" under misguided American policy paid for with U.S. tax dollars.

Deborah Johns of Roseville, co-founder of Marine Moms and Military Families, asked police to investigate the Pearcy display. "My son wears that uniform every day. It's an insult to hang it up like that."
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:28 PM
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2. Dozen people? Yes, they would fit into a Caravan...
Bizarro world again, in that Move America Forward only wants to take us Backwards. I feel for them, but they are so misguided in putting their trust in someone so undeserving of their trust.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:29 PM
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4. I don't understand what she's confused about
or is it just that she's so blinded by propaganda that she's confused about everything?

:shrug:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:32 PM
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5. Well, for starters, she thinks attacking a country that didn't attack us..
...is being strong against terrorism.

Newsflash for her: it's INCREASED terrorism.

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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:33 PM
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6. Here's what she said she was "confused" about:
"Cindy Sheehan made the comment that our military men and women that carry a gun are nothing more than terrorists, and that the true freedom fighters are the ones that are fighting against our men and women over there in Iraq," Johns said. "That's a pretty twisted statement to make."

Did Cindy REALLY say "the true freedom fighters are the ones that are fighting against our men and women over there in Iraq?"

I find that a little hard to swallow...
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:36 PM
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7. When did Cindy say this????
Edited on Fri Aug-26-05 05:45 PM by patdem
"Cindy Sheehan made the comment that our military men and women that carry a gun are nothing more than terrorists, and that the true freedom fighters are the ones that are fighting against our men and women over there in Iraq," Johns said. "That's a pretty twisted statement to make."

Is this one of the RW talking points that twist and distort Cindy's words? This is the first time I have heard this one???



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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:40 PM
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8. I think it's one of those "say it and no one will confirm it" quotes...
It IS a "pretty twisted statement to make," especially in light of the fact that Cindy probably never made it.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:43 PM
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9. Probably the first one to say it is the one
who just said it..the one who wants to question Cindy. Apparently she just got her talking points.
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